Graf skate question

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[lampliter87 8]

Cobra holders do have a very aggressive forward pitch, and yes, Tuuks will be a more neutral angle.

[V3T3R4N3DSN1P3R 0]

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[lampliter87 8]

Vapor XXXX's have Tuuk Lightspeed II holders on them, so yes.

[Alan 0]

Yup, I put Tuuks on my Grafs (C+ not lightspeeds) and the pitch was miles better. The manager at my LHS said most people who buy Grafs from his store put Tuuk holders on them.

[pizzakid13 5]

how drastic was the change? do they put you back on your heels?

what is the difference between the C+ and the LS?

[SolarWind 23]

how drastic was the change? do they put you back on your heels?

what is the difference between the C+ and the LS?

1/16" or ~ 2mm heel lift changes the pitch by +1

with that considering that LS2 has 3MM higher rear tower comparing with C+ the difference is substantial - LS2 has slight negative pitch (-1), C+ - heavy negative (-2 if not more?)

Cobras on the other hand are +2 so as you can see the difference between C+ & Cobras is like night & day

there's been extensive discussions on pitch before & it boils down to a personal preference (which would heavily depend on your stance, bio mechanics, skating style etc)

case to point - I skate with a deep knee bend & have enough flexibility in my calf/hamstrings to feel like I'm on the balls of my feet with regular LS2 which is exactly where I like to be

when I tried forward pitch I felt waay too forward - on my foes which affected my balance