Am I just too much of a fat ass or are skates weaker these days?

[Vishi05 0]

Practically every skate I have had for the last 5 or 6 years has broke the same exact way. The sole of the boot gets soft and the chassis starts pushing up into the boot. This happened to me on the mission proto vsi, D1, D1c, wicked 1 and now it's happening on my one90s.

My weight for most of those skates was between 255-275 but I'm down to 215 now so that shouldn't be too much of an issue for my current one90s. My question is, is this happening to everyone else as well? Is there a roller hockey skate or ice hockey skate out there with a stronger sole that this doesn't happen to if you swap the runner/chassis once?

[chilaxin12 2]

you might just be hard on your skates, could always go the custom route and get a different out sole, or perhaps find a way to strengthen where the chassis actually mounts to the sole with a piece of plastic almost like a lift to more evenly spread the pressure out on the skate.

[dsjunior1388 81]

Maybe switch from a composite outsole to the old plastic. You'll be able to find some grafs that have the old outsole still.

[fatwabbit 93]

you might just be hard on your skates, could always go the custom route and get a different out sole, or perhaps find a way to strengthen where the chassis actually mounts to the sole with a piece of plastic almost like a lift to more evenly spread the pressure out on the skate.

I agree with Chilaxin... maybe you could add a little lift at the back (assuming thats where its happening) to even out the pressure on the whole heel area and not just where the chassis meets the boot. I've got a female team mate who has gone thru two pairs of skates... both exactly the same as you have described with yours. She's not more than 100lbs, but somehow manages to wreck her skates.

[porky45 1]

it happens mostly with players that weigh alot, or players that are using entry level skates that don't have materials stiff enough to support them. At 215 I can't imagine that you should be experiencing that kind of boot failure unless you are extremely hard on your skates (even then it shouldn't happen) or you are using an entry level skate. It looks like most of your skates are mid- higher end models though.

[chippa13 1844]

I'm wondering if he's using the skates under very warm conditions. That might be contributing to his problems.

[VakarLajos 5]

I'm wondering if he's using the skates under very warm conditions. That might be contributing to his problems.

Fullerton California is far south.

[cptjeff 0]

That's an interesting point. High levels of heat can screw up glues and composites. Do you leave your skates in the car often?

[Point Man For The Devil 0]

i had the same problem. i'm bulkin up with weight training while still playing and the extra mass has taken its toll on my skates. i'm fairly nimble in terms of skating and stopping on my inline converted 0ne75s but its added to the wear of them greatly. i noticed the baseplate was gettin in a state and the vanguard chassis began sinking into the outsole. i use kevlar fabric to make repairs for sticks and car panels etc so i took off the chassis and made a double skinned kevlar outsole for each skate over the texallium with small "wings" leadin up the sides of the boot. stiffened up my skates to a great extent. if pics are requested i can try puttin them up to show what i mean. i was paying £9 a linear metre for my kevlar, prob equivilent of $5-$6. with west system epoxy. cheap as chips and pretty easy to work with.

[Vishi05 0]

i had the same problem. i'm bulkin up with weight training while still playing and the extra mass has taken its toll on my skates. i'm fairly nimble in terms of skating and stopping on my inline converted 0ne75s but its added to the wear of them greatly. i noticed the baseplate was gettin in a state and the vanguard chassis began sinking into the outsole. i use kevlar fabric to make repairs for sticks and car panels etc so i took off the chassis and made a double skinned kevlar outsole for each skate over the texallium with small "wings" leadin up the sides of the boot. stiffened up my skates to a great extent. if pics are requested i can try puttin them up to show what i mean. i was paying £9 a linear metre for my kevlar, prob equivilent of $5-$6. with west system epoxy. cheap as chips and pretty easy to work with.

Pictures would be awesome as that is basically the setup I'm running right now.

I never leave my equipment or sticks in the car because I noticed I was breaking sticks more often if I did leave them in there.

When I set these up and started using them I was probably around 235 so like some said weight shouldn't be too much of an issue with these. What exactly could I be doing that would be considered hard on my skates?

[vek 0]

That's interesting. I would have wagered that the newer composites would be both stiffer and stronger than the old plastic outsoles.

[Darkbyte 0]

I agree with Chilaxin... maybe you could add a little lift at the back (assuming thats where its happening) to even out the pressure on the whole heel area and not just where the chassis meets the boot. I've got a female team mate who has gone thru two pairs of skates... both exactly the same as you have described with yours. She's not more than 100lbs, but somehow manages to wreck her skates.

I was just thinking about her, skates (Mission CSX) wouldnt have been quite been a year old. Her roller skates last for decades without breaking.

[cptjeff 0]

That's interesting. I would have wagered that the newer composites would be both stiffer and stronger than the old plastic outsoles.

They are. But the heat farks composites up much more then the traditional plastic.

Gotta be that.

[Vishi05 0]

The skates are never in high heat, it's been close to 100 here lately but it seldomly gets that hot here and my skates just stay in the garage not in my car.

[chippa13 1844]

Try keeping your skates in the house, especially somewhere that is climate controlled to a cooler temp. A garage can still get pretty warm and you don't want your skates going from 60 to 90 to 60 everyday.

[Point Man For The Devil 0]

i think it has something to do with the inline chassis having a much smaller surface area than an ice runner. instead of being distributed evenly around the edge of the outsole, the stress is put inside and my baseplate began to form to the chassis mount area, sinking in and cracking. will try gettin pics up tonight. was only a test to see if i could do it and kevlar is pretty tough so aesthetically it could have looked a little better but the function is there. i guess carbon would be an easier alternative if you wanna make it look pretty.

[duch 0]

I agree with the other guys. At 215 you shouldn't be having these kind of problems. I'm 207 and haven't ever had a failure like that but I'm in Graf 735's or Easton Composite skates depending on the hockey I'm playing. The heat could be a contributing factor or you could be one tough hombre and be very hard on them when your playing. Either way the guys are right, try to keep you sticks and equipment in a more temperature controlled enviroment not in a garage or outside shed. It's not good for your equipment. Up here in Canada some of my less caring buddies let their stuff freeze overnight in their car trunks rather than bring it inside to hang dry. Needless to say most of their equipment becomes trash after quite a short period of time.