Bauer Supreme One80 Skates

[joeyisfunny 0]

1ST SKATE: Despite a creeping feeling I should have bought a size 7.5EE instead of 8D (Im 6'0" 170lbs), the skates felt and performed well. I had some pretty strong pain mid-foot for a while, but thats to be expected I guess. I really had to crank down on the top 3 eyelets to get a semi solid fit around my ankle. Having skinny ankles I still couldnt get rid of all the ankle wobble, but it wasnt too bad. I think after a few more times on the ice when they are more broken in Ill get a better fit. Only a minor blister on my right inner arch, though I was only on the ice for 75 minutes. My heel was raising slightly when I was pushing hard, again once the boot breaks in Ill hopefully get a more solid fit. They look sick though!

[rachael7 1]

You really should have been fit an an LHS or at least a local sporting goods store - it doesn't sound like those skates fit right at all. Heel moving, blisters, strong pain, ankle wobble... that's just not how skates are supposed to be, even before they're broken in. Whatever money you "saved" at HM will look like chump change when you have to throw those skates away and get another pair that fits right. Sorry to harsh your buzz dude, but that's what it sounds like from here.

[joeyisfunny 0]

You really should have been fit an an LHS or at least a local sporting goods store - it doesn't sound like those skates fit right at all. Heel moving, blisters, strong pain, ankle wobble... that's just not how skates are supposed to be, even before they're broken in. Whatever money you "saved" at HM will look like chump change when you have to throw those skates away and get another pair that fits right. Sorry to harsh your buzz dude, but that's what it sounds like from here.

So you think every person to ever wear hockey skates that had a blister and some foot pain during the break in process made a bad mistake and should have thrown their skates out? Have you ever worn and skated in a pair of skates in your life? It really doesnt sound like it. I did go to a hockey store, got fitted in some vapors, and then decided against it. I then ordered some supremes with the knowledge I had from the vapors but the supremes were longer than the equivalent vapors, so I had to reorder. The fit is pretty good in the skate, its just my ankles are so thin that its hard to really lock my heel down in the boot. Just not enough flesh to take up the space. I talked to a man who was wearing the same skates at the rink and he has skated for many years, and his feet "hurt like hell". Im not saying they should, but it happens during the break in process sometimes. Im going to give it 5 more sessions, and if Im still having the same issues then Ill know something is wrong. Until then Ima keep chuggin.

[gxc999 7]

I gotta say that the baking for 2 minutes just didnt seem very effective. They were slightly warm, nowhere close to hot especially inside the boot which had hardly warmed up at all. I dont understand the "no more than 2 minutes or damage!!" warning that came with the skates. Granted I baked them at 150 instead of 175 for safety's sake, it shouldnt have made THAT much of a difference.

Yah, that won't do shit. 195 for 8 minutes, one at a time, will do the job. BTW, make sure you have a convection oven, doing that with an old school oven will mess up your skates.

[joeyisfunny 0]

Yah, that won't do shit. 195 for 8 minutes, one at a time, will do the job. BTW, make sure you have a convection oven, doing that with an old school oven will mess up your skates.

I assume they gave that warning because of new materials used that wouldnt like a long baking? Im sure they said 2 minutes for a reason. And a regular oven will not mess up your skates, thats silly to think that because it doesnt have a fan it will ruin skates.

If these skates end up being a half size too large, would yellow superfeet help to lock my heel back since it would raise the heel up a little giving the tounge more leverage to push on it?

[raganblink 82]

Okay I understand that some of you don't have a LHS within a reasonable distance to get them baked... but... if you do, why are doing this at home? With techniques that might not be 100% positive it will work as intended? I don't understand. Like this guy came in this week and said he had to bake his skates again... his $550 skates... at home... and he thinks he messed something up. So do I, pretty sure this guy is screwed, because he wanted to save $6.

Any reasonable hockey shop should have a rebake for pretty cheap. If we can afford 300+ dollar skates, why can't we afford a 5-15 dollar fee? If its like 30-40 home baking would look like a good alt, but, if its under 20, i don't see the reason to do so. Its like if you buy a new nice car, and then you change your oil and rotate your tires for the first time...catch is, you don't know what you're doing 100% when you're doing it, cuz its your first time or you've only done it a handful of times. You don't want to f@% up your new car on something that would cost you 50 bucks (oil + rotation).

Anyways, end rant. I just don't understand how home baking is popular in areas where shop ovens exist.

[joeyisfunny 0]

Dry heat is dry heat. The only difference with shop ovens is a small fan that circulates air. Thats not enough of a difference to ruin sates if you have half a brain. Also, a worker at a local pro shop told me not to waste money baking at the shop when I had an oven at home... haha..

But seriously, you have to be retarded to mess up your skates baking at home. When the right precautions are used you really cant mess it up.

[Skoda10 14]

Is it correct that the One80s (based off the One95 last) would be a little wider and deeper than the One75s (based off the One90 last)?

[joeyisfunny 0]

Ive come to the very unfortunate conclusion that these skates are simply just too big for me. This is odd, as the when I take out the footbed and step on it my foot comes right up to the edge of it, yet when I put the boot on, my toes are very far from the toe cap... dont really understand that. Also the ankle area is just too big.

Ill be selling these, is there a place to sell on this forum, or should I just use ebay??? Extremely pissed that Ive gotta lose money selling and rebuying new skates...

[rachael7 1]

[joeyisfunny 0]

Agreed. I dont get it. Footbed test was ok. Initial fit before wearing felt pretty good. After wearing and the break in process started... not good. Its not that they are way too big or anything, its like a half size too big, but its enough to hamper the fit enough to make me search out a new pair.

[joeyisfunny 0]

Went again tonight and I used wax laces. The fit was better with them and I felt pretty solid on the ice, but there was alot of pain due to how tight I had to crank down on the laces to get the solid fit. For example the tongue wrapped around my ankle too far and the edge of it was being pushed into my ankle by the boot a little bit when I tightened it up. Pretty much a sign they're 1/2 size too big. Got some superfeet on the way, but I doubt that will make much of a difference in that regard. All in all though, the one80's are daaaamn nice.

[fiimb 1]

i think she's trying to say "told you so" in a more subtle way, in that you should of got fitted at a store. looking back at your previous arguments, vapors and supremes fit very differently, with vapors having a narrow toe box and may therefore feel shorter than the equivalent supremes.

but on the deal about the footbeds, the stock footbeds are a half size smaller than the skate itself. that being said, its my opinion that a footbed should be slightly bigger anyways so there's no shifting. so here you are doubly off, and perhaps in a skate a whole size too big.

as for your heel having too much room, your skates are probably too big for you. a skate stretches and padding 'breaks in' which all adds internal volume. initial fit should be almost be uncomfortably snug to avoid problems from this.

i'd suggest new model pumps. they have a (more) narrow heel (than previously), and the pump will help with your skinny ankle problem. aside from that, just a much smaller size skate.

[joeyisfunny 0]

i think she's trying to say "told you so" in a more subtle way, in that you should of got fitted at a store. looking back at your previous arguments, vapors and supremes fit very differently, with vapors having a narrow toe box and may therefore feel shorter than the equivalent supremes.

but on the deal about the footbeds, the stock footbeds are a half size smaller than the skate itself. that being said, its my opinion that a footbed should be slightly bigger anyways so there's no shifting. so here you are doubly off, and perhaps in a skate a whole size too big.

as for your heel having too much room, your skates are probably too big for you. a skate stretches and padding 'breaks in' which all adds internal volume. initial fit should be almost be uncomfortably snug to avoid problems from this.

i'd suggest new model pumps. they have a (more) narrow heel (than previously), and the pump will help with your skinny ankle problem. aside from that, just a much smaller size skate.

I agree. What sucks is that both hockey shops around me have been sold out of any decent skates for over a month and wont have any more in for a while. After I see how the superfeet affect the fit, Ill proceed from there. Ill probably just wait till my LHS gets the supremes in stock and then go try them on there and make sure I find a perfect fit. I think a 7D or 7.5D would be perfect since it would be more snug at the ankle and I could leave it more loose around the mid foot area which is semi snug in the 8D's. Guess I could looks at 7EE's as well. This just baffles me, as I am in between a 10 and 10.5 foot size.

About the reeboks... not sure I like the idea of a pump. It may work well, but it could break and I want skates that just fit out of the box without the need for a pump. Damn good thing I just got a well paying job! ;)

[fiimb 1]

the pump won't break if you bake the skates properly. pump's only break when people use them within 24hrs of baking. if you avoid this your pumps will be absolutely fine.

out of the box fit is a poor indicator of long term fit as a skate breaks in the fit changes just enough to be noticeable.

[joeyisfunny 0]

the pump won't break if you bake the skates properly. pump's only break when people use them within 24hrs of baking. if you avoid this your pumps will be absolutely fine.

out of the box fit is a poor indicator of long term fit as a skate breaks in the fit changes just enough to be noticeable.

Ahh, gotcha. Just talked to my LHS and they will have the new supremes in stock in less than 2 weeks. Ill go check them out and get a proper fit there. May just buy new ones. My girlfriend's feet are exactly my size though she has more athletic ankles than my chicken bones, so if I dont get any decent offers on ebay Ill just give the skates to her and she'll be my new skating buddy hahah.. it'll all work out in the end.

[Hockeydog 8]

This thread should be a sticky for how not to buy skates.

[Wolfpack_1986 154]

Dry heat is dry heat. The only difference with shop ovens is a small fan that circulates air. Thats not enough of a difference to ruin sates if you have half a brain. Also, a worker at a local pro shop told me not to waste money baking at the shop when I had an oven at home... haha..

But seriously, you have to be retarded to mess up your skates baking at home. When the right precautions are used you really cant mess it up.

yeah it doesnt sound like it would ruin it if you have a half a brain, but if you had a whole one, you would realize that certain types of ovens have directly exposed heating elements and can heat unevenly, due to thermal transients and other factors.

end of discussion.

ETA: not to mention, the dry heat argument goes out the door when people put in the moist towel.

[joeyisfunny 0]

This thread should be a sticky for how not to buy skates.

More like, it should be a sticky for how not to listen to a LHS clerk who apparently didnt know what he was talking about when he told me the supremes would fit just like the vapors length wise. Lesson learned the hard way. Am I the only one to get skates and realize later I made a sizing mistake? Hardly. At least I went to a LHS first to get an idea of my size. Damn.

yeah it doesnt sound like it would ruin it if you have a half a brain, but if you had a whole one, you would realize that certain types of ovens have directly exposed heating elements and can heat unevenly, due to thermal transients and other factors.

end of discussion.

ETA: not to mention, the dry heat argument goes out the door when people put in the moist towel.

Well, thats why you turn the oven off and place the skates on a baking tray to avoid the direct heat from the coils.

[joeyisfunny 0]

Well it all worked out in the end. The skates went on ebay and within 24 hours of no bids I got an email from a guy offering $280 for the skates. I bumped him up to $300 and he accepted. So Im down $100, could have been MUCH worse! Lesson learned. Going to LHS next week when they get the supremes in to do it right.

[tscharf 0]

Just talked to some know-it-all kid at my local pro shop and he was telling me that he never ever bakes any of his skates because he feels they are broken in after 2-3 skate sessions and there's no need. Is this kid just cocky or can this really be the case? He even told me not to waste money getting mine baked there haha...

There is some truth to this. Just simply using the skates will break them in just fine. Baking them simply accelerates the process to a certain extent. With my U+ Pros is was a little of both. Honestly though, "breaking them in" has made them more comfortable than baking them.

[PuckSlave 0]

Model names are deceiving. From the production description on hockeymonkey, one70 skates are equivalent to last year's one55 in material and construction. Yet it costs $100 more. Bauer probably reasoned that the one55 delivered too good a skate for the price and so they created a lesser skate (one60) at the same one55 price point.

[joeyisfunny 0]

Model names are deceiving. From the production description on hockeymonkey, one70 skates are equivalent to last year's one55 in material and construction. Yet it costs $100 more. Bauer probably reasoned that the one55 delivered too good a skate for the price and so they created a lesser skate (one60) at the same one55 price point.

No, the one70 is the new price point. The one60 is equivalent to the one55. Either the site has the wrong info or you read it wrong.

[PuckSlave 0]

So on hockeymonkey, one70 feature list:

* Quarter Package - 3D Anaformable tech nylon upper

* Lining Material - Hydrophobic Grip liner

* Heel Support - Exterior 3D injected heel cup

* Ankle Padding - Anaform Fit foam ankle pads

* Tongue Construction - Anatomical, 48 oz. 2-piece felt with high-density metatarsal guard

* Footbed - Superfit with Stabilizer Grip

* Thermoformable - Full upper

one55 feature list:

* Quarter Package. 3D Abaformable tech nylon upper

* Lining Material. Quick-dry synthetic liner

* Heel Support. Exterior 3D injected heel cup

* Ankle Padding. Insta-form + foam ankle pads

* Tongue Construction. Anatomical, 48 oz. 2-piece felt with high-density metatarsal guard

* Footbed. Power channel superfit+

* Thermoformable. Full upper

one60 feature list:

* Quarter Package - 3D Trueform PU upper

* Lining Material - Hydrophobic microfiber

* Heel Support - Exterior embossed heel cup

* Ankle Padding - Anaform Fit foam ankle pads

* Tongue Construction - Anatomical, 48 oz. 2-piece felt with high-density metatarsal guard

* Footbed - Molded with integrated heel support

* Thermoformable - Full upper

one35 feature list:

* Quarter Package. 3D Injected Trueform thermoformable upper

* Lining Material. Hydrophobic microfiber

* Heel Support. Exterior embossed heel cup

* Ankle Padding. Insta-form + foam ankle pads

* Tongue Construction. Anatomical, 4 oz. 2-piece felt with metatarsal guard

* Footbed. Power channel superfit+

* Thermoformable. Full upper

So in terms of materials for the upper, one70 is closer to one55 and one60 is closer to one35. As I checked Bauer's website, the info there is identical to hockeymonkey's.

So, one80 might still be equivalent to one75, and one100 to one95 etc. But one55 has become the $100+ one70. Bauer is definitely making us pay much more for the same features.

[sebseb 0]

And when I said this about the one100, that is an expensive skate, everyone jumped me. Sure the one100 si 50$ cheaper than the one95 when they came up, but it's the same skate, which means an older model. Now compare these 2, the one75 and the one90, again the same skate, but a much bigger difference in price when they were realesed. As for the one55 and one70 price difference, what can I say, researching the reflex tongue must have eaten a lot of funds.