Pain in new skates.

[kovalchuk_fan17 0]

hello there

I recently bought some new Bauer One60 skates because my Vapor XVIs were a size too small and were crushing my feet. I got them baked and sharpened and ready for a game, and it was a little awkward at first as I expected a bit with them being new and needing to be broken in but after the first few shifts my feet were completely in pain, like in too much pain for it to be normal. I tried loosening my laces and it helped for a few seconds but the pain came back with seemingly no compromise. I foolishly really didnt try on to many skates before choosing the Supremes, I didnt even try on Vapors in the appropriate size, and I fear that I made the wrong choice with Supremes over Vapors.

Now my question out of this ranting is whether I should give the skates another game to see how they feel again or to start trying on some Vapors and saving money to buy some.

Thanks in advance and sorry if this is confusing

[Chadd 916]

A little more detail on the location and type of pain would probably help. In the end, you probably already hit the nail on the head with your comment about choosing the wrong skate.

[stlBeerLeagueChamp 0]

Yep you probably just do not have the foot type for the supremes. Don't try and force your feet to get used to them, they never will.

I had the exact same issue, the only thing I could do until I knew that it was actually the fit causing the pain was undo the top 2 eyelets, that at least got me through a game without feeling like my feet were going to explode.

[strosedefence34 179]

Not to take over this thread but, i'm having some what a similar issue with older skates in my arches. I have tried many different insoles. I have not tried super feet because we do not have a dealer here to fit me for them. I have done the pencil test and the skates are deep enough. Its mostly my left arch that has the pain. The right arch is slightly painful but its not that bad. Any ideas? I should also say that I took two years off the game and just recently got back into it with the same skates I was using prior to my break and I had some of the same issues two years ago.

[iniesta 0]

Just because you don't fit in the one60, it doesn't mean you won't fit in the high end models of the supremes. The one100 and the totalone feel wider to me and they heat mold much better to the foot shape.

[RussianDangler15 0]

Just because you don't fit in the one60, it doesn't mean you won't fit in the high end models of the supremes. The one100 and the totalone feel wider to me and they heat mold much better to the foot shape.

Hes better off trying to find a skate that fits better PRIOR to baking.

[wHATcOLOR 0]

similar question - got a new pair of vapor x6.0 - toes are killing me, tight up against the cap! they felt nice when they were fresh out of the oven, but man, not now.

when discussing with the sales guy, we settled on this pair after trying on at least 8 or 9 different skates/sizes. (fingers got blisters from tightening so many pairs of laces)

in the next half size up from the size i bought, they felt pretty dope, toe didn't feather the cap when standing upright, and we tried a half size smaller. i said 'when i stand upright, my toes are tight against the caps and it definitely hurts.. when i flex forward and bend my knees, they move back from the cap. should i be concerned?'

he said that as they loosen up a bit my heel would be able to sit further back and i should be just fine.

but i wore them for the first time on the ice this week and i'm really thinking i might've gone too small. toward the third period my toes had swelled up and were just about constantly pressed up against the cap even when flexed forward, painful..

guys w/ experience w/ skates like this -- is this something that's likely to go away as they 'loosen up'? is there much room to loosen up in the vapor x6.0? the outside of the boot is like fiberglass, can't imagine that is going to budge. i guess it's a question of whether or not the inside will loosen up any.

interested to hear peoples' thoughts. thanks. trying to decide if i should try to skate on them more or resell them with only 1 skate and minimize my losses

[AIREAYE 248]

Where did you get them from? Ideally for a perfect fit (assuming your foot has stopped growing) your toes should feather your toecap even when simply standing up. The skates, shouldn't 'loosen up' enough to compensate for the poor fit. It will break in yes, but not to that extent that it expands lengthwise about a half size.

When the associate asked you about your toes coming into contact with the cap, did you mention 'feathering' or 'grazing' the end? The contact should be very very minimal.

[wHATcOLOR 0]

prefer not to name the place, but it's definitely very reputable.

i explicitly stated that when standing upright, my toes were painful against the cap. when crouched forward, they are off the cap. i asked if this (painful against cap when upright) meant it was the wrong size, he said it'll loosen up, foot will sit back further in the skate than it does brand new, and i'll be crouched forward most of the time anyway

in the half size above, they didn't feather the cap when upright

[pittu 15]

Not to take over this thread but, i'm having some what a similar issue with older skates in my arches. I have tried many different insoles. I have not tried super feet because we do not have a dealer here to fit me for them. I have done the pencil test and the skates are deep enough. Its mostly my left arch that has the pain. The right arch is slightly painful but its not that bad. Any ideas? I should also say that I took two years off the game and just recently got back into it with the same skates I was using prior to my break and I had some of the same issues two years ago.

I know that this may not be the ultimate solution for your arch problem, but I have found that if I tighten up the laces too tight just below the "heel lock" eyelets, it compresses my arch too much and causes serious cramping type pain. Loosening the laces in that area and cranking down the lace in the "heel lock" area instead takes care of it for me...

[Chadd 916]

i explicitly stated that when standing upright, my toes were painful against the cap. when crouched forward, they are off the cap. i asked if this (painful against cap when upright) meant it was the wrong size, he said it'll loosen up, foot will sit back further in the skate than it does brand new, and i'll be crouched forward most of the time anyway

That's a pretty extreme difference. If they were off the cap when in a skating position, I can understand why the shop thought they would be fine.

similar question - got a new pair of vapor x6.0 - toes are killing me, tight up against the cap! they felt nice when they were fresh out of the oven, but man, not now.

when discussing with the sales guy, we settled on this pair after trying on at least 8 or 9 different skates/sizes. (fingers got blisters from tightening so many pairs of laces)

in the next half size up from the size i bought, they felt pretty dope, toe didn't feather the cap when standing upright, and we tried a half size smaller. i said 'when i stand upright, my toes are tight against the caps and it definitely hurts.. when i flex forward and bend my knees, they move back from the cap. should i be concerned?'

he said that as they loosen up a bit my heel would be able to sit further back and i should be just fine.

but i wore them for the first time on the ice this week and i'm really thinking i might've gone too small. toward the third period my toes had swelled up and were just about constantly pressed up against the cap even when flexed forward, painful..

guys w/ experience w/ skates like this -- is this something that's likely to go away as they 'loosen up'? is there much room to loosen up in the vapor x6.0? the outside of the boot is like fiberglass, can't imagine that is going to budge. i guess it's a question of whether or not the inside will loosen up any.

interested to hear peoples' thoughts. thanks. trying to decide if i should try to skate on them more or resell them with only 1 skate and minimize my losses

If you couldn't touch the cap at all in the next size up, those would be too big. I've also never seen a skate where you go from killing pain to not touching at all in only a half size difference, that seems very odd. Maybe if you tried on skates first thing in the morning and you skate at night. The normal swelling of the foot over the course of the day could possibly explain that I guess.

You could try heating them up again or having them stretched if your shop knows how to do that. You could also try going to a thinner sock or barefoot. That's usually good for about 1/4 size difference, more if you are talking about thick cotton socks.

[wHATcOLOR 0]

That's a pretty extreme difference. If they were off the cap when skating, I guess I'm missing why they are causing pain now.

If length is the issue, you would want to make sure your heel is locked as far back as possible. Loosening the skates will actually make it worse, assuming the length is the issue.

they're causing pain because when upright, they're against the cap, and i'm not skating 100% of the time. additionally, during the course of the game my toes swelled up to the point that they weren't off the cap while skating by the third period, they were on cap

Chadd, you make a real good point. i did try them on in the morning, and i do skate at night. dang

[AIREAYE 248]

Toes swelling up ... can you eliminate the possibility of any cutting of circulation, infection? It's a reach but I've seen it.

Is there any pressure squeezing against the sides of your toes (ie the toebox too narrow) which could cause swelling?

Try the thin sock and rebake like Chadd said, and make sure to kick your heel all the way in before lacing up the heated skates.

[wHATcOLOR 0]

yeah infection surely isn't the issue, slight chance i taped my shinpads a bit tight but i'm not sure that's the main issue.

it's not too narrow, it fits nicely aside from a few millimeters of length.

i definitely kicked the heels back, several times during the game too trying to free up a tiny bit of room..

socks were pretty thin, will see what else i can get though

thanks guys

[Chadd 916]

Try the thin sock and rebake like Chadd said, and make sure to kick your heel all the way in before lacing up the heated skates.

If you re-bake, use thick socks when you bake then switch to thinner or no socks when you skate. It can help buy a little space for those that have pressure points.

[AIREAYE 248]

If you re-bake, use thick socks when you bake then switch to thinner or no socks when you skate. It can help buy a little space for those that have pressure points.

Depends what you mean by thick. I wouldn't put anyone in thick thick socks for baking because it won't form as well to the contours, leaving gaps for when they do go for thinner socks, excess rubbing might happen.

Edit : JUST saw the rebake part of the post and yes, agreed since it's already been baked once... long day

[wHATcOLOR 0]

that's helpful, thanks Chadd

[Chadd 916]

Depends what you mean by thick. I wouldn't put anyone in thick thick socks for baking because it won't form as well to the contours, leaving gaps for when they do go for thinner socks, excess rubbing might happen.

Edit : JUST saw the rebake part of the post and yes, agreed since it's already been baked once... long day

Only for someone that is having this type of issue, not for first time baking or for those not having any problems.