Vapor vs Supreme Width Help

[AlaskaFrost 0]

Hey guys,

Need some help with a prospective skate purchase. Just got back into skating after several years off. Currently in a pair of x-stiff pro stock X60's that I got off an ECHL player here in Anchorage. Great skates for a great price($130) but have been looking at the supreme line.

My only complaint about the Vapors is that my forefoot aches when I tighten the laces and my inner right ankle bone contacts the eyelet inner ridge. By reading the forums I've noticed that the supremes run wider and deeper than vapors do.

My question is that I've found a pair of supreme one95 on ebay with brand new runners and holders for a good price. I was thinking about giving them a try but the skates are listed as E width. I contacted the seller and he verified that the toungue reads E. So is the E a special order or did NBH offer a retail E width and if I'm in a D width Vapor now, would a D width supreme be right? Or would an E width supreme be correct? Thanks for any help.

[AIREAYE 248]

Can't comment on the retail availability of an 'E' width, but a Supreme 'D' is a natural 'E' so it would be wider than your Vapor 'D'. Did you try a looser lacing pattern in the forefoot?

[raganblink 82]

The Supreme One95 (does the skate read bauer one95, or nike bauer one95?) had a special E width program the year the x60s came out. The skate was available to I believe HM, HG, TH and PH. I don't know the specifics on the skate, but I believe that they were true last E width skates, AKA a normal Supreme D skate. (confusing, no?). Read: they fit the same as retail nikebauer one95s.

So they'll be wider then retail D width vapor skates, and deeper, but, unless you know the specs on the prostock skate you got, you really don't know what you're in

[AlaskaFrost 0]

Thanks for the info guys. Great point about the prostock, I forgot to consider that he might have gottten a special order boot. Although, even though they're pro's, these guys probably arent getting anything too custom, they still had the stock tongue. I'd guess that the skates are pretty stock except for the extra stiffness and some reinforcing at the eyelets. So for the sake of boot fit comparison against the Supreme line I'll assume that they fight like Vapors.

As far as loosening the forefoot lacing area, I have been doing that lately and the pressure was relieved. But I also get pain on the ankle bones if I tie the top laces too tight. My ankle lines up in between where the ankle padding ends and the eyelets run on the skate wall. Luckily the extra stiif boot lets me tie them looser and still have some support but I cant help but think that my feet just need a deeper boot so that my anklebones will sit farther back in the skates. Plus, I feel like I'm not getting everything out of my strides with a loose fit.

I checked and the skates are Nike Bauer. So if I understand you correctly, NikeBauer E width will fit like the D would? The bid ends in a day so I'm trying to decide. Just dont want them too loose.

The vapors are nice but I'm a D with longer strides and thats why the LS 2.1 is appealing. I was also wondering why Bauer went away from the LS 2.1 on the Totalone? Was it just for the weight loss of the Fusion? I picked a TO up and wow, it was light, but It seems like the longer blade goes with the identity of the Supreme line. Also, is there a way the profile a longer Fusion runner to get the advantage of extra steel like the 2.1 but also get the weight savings. Or does the longer blade not provide a big enough advantage to make a point, hence Bauer not carrying it to the TO? Was thinking of a 10 ft radius +1 and trying out some FBV sharpening. Should be much faster.

Thanks.

[wrangler 157]

You might check out the thread on ordering custom Bauers to get an idea of things that can be done to make a skate fit differently from the standard retail model. You'd need to know what, if any, differences there are in a given pro stock skate, to know if it fits anything like the retail skate.

Fit may be a crapshoot on models you haven't tried on, and you really want a boot to fit well. Look at what happened with your current skates. Runners and blades can be changed to suit you.

[MoritzG. 0]

The vapors are nice but I'm a D with longer strides and thats why the LS 2.1 is appealing. I was also wondering why Bauer went away from the LS 2.1 on the Totalone? Was it just for the weight loss of the Fusion? I picked a TO up and wow, it was light, but It seems like the longer blade goes with the identity of the Supreme line. Also, is there a way the profile a longer Fusion runner to get the advantage of extra steel like the 2.1 but also get the weight savings. Or does the longer blade not provide a big enough advantage to make a point, hence Bauer not carrying it to the TO? Was thinking of a 10 ft radius +1 and trying out some FBV sharpening. Should be much faster.

Thanks.

that part would really interesst me as well!