Hi lo on labeda hummer frame?

[Kyle Friedman 9]

Does anyone know if it's possible to put 1 or 2 76mm wheels on the front of a labeda hummer eviction frame creating either a (76-80-80-80) set up or a (76-76-80-80) set up from front to back?

[henryb 4]

Not sure what effect you are looking for, but if you use anything other then 4 wheels of exactly the same size, then you will not have all wheels touching the floor.

The combinations that you mentioned: 76-80-80-80... Will have you skating on the 3 rear wheels and tipping forward to push off from your stride will only be on the first 2 wheels. And the other combination: 76-76-80-80... is even worse, the wheel in the second position will never touch the ground, so essentially you are skating on 3 wheels, with same issues as the first combination!

Basically stick with 80-80-80-80, not sure why you would want to change, it is designed for only that combination.

[Kyle Friedman 9]

Yeah thats exactly what I thought would happen if I put that combination on my skates. Really what im looking for is a way to get my first step back. Ever sense i got my Tour ex1 skates with a hummer frame, iv felt like i have almost no first step, and taking off seems slower.

[the_game 452]

I've messed around with trying a 'rocker' on the Hummr all 80 set up, 76-80-80-80 and 76-80-80-76, neither worked as well as the straight 80. Turning, acceleration, stopping were all adversely impacted, I would not recommend it. Stick with the all 80 set up and see if you can get used to the set up and get your first step back.

[Justin 1933 134]

You may want to try all 76mm wheels. I have had a few people do this and they actually liked it.

[Kyle Friedman 9]

Okay, thanks for all the responses guys. Anyone else have any other advise?

And Justin, thanks iv never thought about that. It might be a good idea if iy helped me have a small wheel base, and a lower sense of gravity.. Wouldn't it feel almost exactly the same using all 80s though?

[Vet88 674]

The 76-80-80-80 setup should not be that strange. Rbk on their tri D lite setup had 72-76-76-80 and the front wheel sits about 2mm to 4mm off the ground (depending on how well made the front wheel is).

I've even put a 74mm wheel on in place of the 72mm and ended up with a quasi high low setup which was really nice to skate on.

[wetwilly17 6]

Okay, thanks for all the responses guys. Anyone else have any other advise?

And Justin, thanks iv never thought about that. It might be a good idea if iy helped me have a small wheel base, and a lower sense of gravity.. Wouldn't it feel almost exactly the same using all 80s though?

All 76s will feel almost the same. You will only be 2mm lower. I only notice a slight difference when changing wheel sizes. But don't waste your money, changing wheel sizes doesn't alter the wheel base or the pitch. It really surprises me that a skate manufacturer would give you this advice. Your skating dynamics / style prefer a more aggressive pitch. Smaller wheels will not change your skating dynamics at all. Id try heel lifts if I were you.

[Kyle Friedman 9]

Thank you wetwilly, I was thinking that it would feel the same. I am defiantly a more aggressive skater. I play forward and my first step is a big part of my game. Heel lifts are something i did not think about, do you know anyone who has tried it?

[wetwilly17 6]

I've never experimented with heel lifts on inline skates but i have with ice skates. The key is to make small changes, even 1/32" is noticeable. Try to determine the difference in pitch between the skates you are used to versus the skates you have now. this will give you an idea of how much lift to add.

If you have enough skate volume and you think you may only need a small lift, you can try inserting aftermarket foot bed (provided it fits you) that increases pitch. superfeet will provide a minor heel lift and i'm sure others will too. just make sure the footbed fits properly because some dont fit certain boots so well. with that said, it sounds like you may need more change than a footbed can provide. if i were you, i might try a 1/16" lift.

try searching for info in the ice forum - there is a lot more discussion on lifts over there.

[Kyle Friedman 9]

Awesome, sounds like it might be a good idea. thank you!

[vince57 4]

r.e. heel lifts , had to fit spacers to a couple of ice boot conversions i did ,

everything else has felt wrong and heel down ever since , plastic wedge tapering 7-11mm for me from now on

[Schnappi 0]

The combinations that you mentioned: 76-80-80-80... Will have you skating on the 3 rear wheels and tipping forward to push off from your stride will only be on the first 2 wheels.

Not really. The 78-80-80-80 is quite handy when one skates on the slab/stone/bricky pavements, cracked asphalt and has a high probability of getting a small stone under the wheel. In that case the balance is normally shifted towards the heel (exactly not to trip forward if something slows one down unexpectedly). In such a setup the front wheel is actually touching the ground but takes less load and has less grip than the 80mm ones.

The rockered setups like 76-80-80-76 are normally used when one has to make lots of tight maneuvers like in slalom, but in that case both speed and stability are reduced. Actually, one can try putting softer wheels in the middle (will reduce speed even more but improve grip) or to play around with a flat setup with two 80 (or 76-78)mm wheels with hockey-ish profile in front and back (say, Hyper Concrete) and two 80mm wheels with racing-esque profile (say, Hyper Tech) in the middle. Theoretically, this can increase the speed due to less contact area without decreasing stability too much. Practically, wheel rotation would be a pain and it might not be what you want.