Remounting holders

[salibandy 21]

Hi guys,

how would you recommend remounting a pair of holders slightly to the outside of a skate?

Right now, my girlfriend's skate seems to make her feet bend outwards (like if she was bow legged). I think there may be an issue with the mounting of the holders to the skates. Because of this, her little toe gets pressed hard onto the side of the toe cap.

If I were to take the holders out, would I have to epoxy the holes before redrilling another set? I'd assume if I were to only adjust the holders to the side by a couple mm, then this is the only way, as I can't redrill into an undrilled part of the outsole.

Are there measurements to figure out where the centre of the skate should be? Or is the centre line definitely the centre point of balance?

Also, last question. She seems to have this pronation problem with her Supreme One.6 LE. It's hurting her little toes. But with her Supreme One75s, she has developed a big bump right over the bone which is under and forward of the ankle bone, on the inside of the feet. She's also developing Haglunds with those. For her One75s, what could be the problem?

[ktang 34]

For the last item: maybe she has an accessory navicular bone? Maybe that spot could be punched out a little.

[salibandy 21]

For the last item: maybe she has an accessory navicular bone? Maybe that spot could be punched out a little.

The interesting thing is, she doesn't have pain in that spot in her One.6. I suppose it can be punched out, but she wants to change to a new pair because it's old.

[Davetronz 109]

Rather than moving the holder, I'd suggest placing shims between the holder and the outsole on the inside of the skate to correct her from falling out.

If this is not drastic enough, then I'd look at re-mounting the holders. I'd recommend taking the skates to someone who is experienced in re-mounting holders and can check her alignment.

[salibandy 21]

Rather than moving the holder, I'd suggest placing shims between the holder and the outsole on the inside of the skate to correct her from falling out.

If this is not drastic enough, then I'd look at re-mounting the holders. I'd recommend taking the skates to someone who is experienced in re-mounting holders and can check her alignment.

I'm under the impression that shims/orthotic footbeds don't work on skates, as skates have one balance point in the centre.

Unfortunately for me, no one here is experienced in this sort of thing. It's a small country with almost no hockey presence, therefore I am seeking advice.

[Davetronz 109]

I'm under the impression that shims/orthotic footbeds don't work on skates, as skates have one balance point in the centre.

Unfortunately for me, no one here is experienced in this sort of thing. It's a small country with almost no hockey presence, therefore I am seeking advice.

Shims work just fine in skates when placed between the outsole and the holder. I've been doing it for years for myself and customers with significant improvements to alignment and skating.

Footbeds (Superfeet, Sidas, Orthotic) work a bit differently and address different problems. A product like Superfeet will "help" your alignment and provide additional support throughout the heel to help prevent falling in or out, but not to the same degree as wedges. Sidas more or less takes the natural shape of your foot, allowing for greater comfort and control, but not necessarily any change to alignment. I've never used a true orthotic insole in skates, but I'd figure it would be a mix between the benefits of superfeet and sidas, but with the added benefit of being custom designed to correct areas in which you require additional support.

Moving holders inside or outside isn't necessarily an easy task for someone who hasn't done it before or doesn't have the advantage of being taught by someone in the same room who's done it before. Again, not something I'd recommend unless you're a veteran to alignment and skate work.

[salibandy 21]

Shims work just fine in skates when placed between the outsole and the holder. I've been doing it for years for myself and customers with significant improvements to alignment and skating.

Footbeds (Superfeet, Sidas, Orthotic) work a bit differently and address different problems. A product like Superfeet will "help" your alignment and provide additional support throughout the heel to help prevent falling in or out, but not to the same degree as wedges. Sidas more or less takes the natural shape of your foot, allowing for greater comfort and control, but not necessarily any change to alignment. I've never used a true orthotic insole in skates, but I'd figure it would be a mix between the benefits of superfeet and sidas, but with the added benefit of being custom designed to correct areas in which you require additional support.

Moving holders inside or outside isn't necessarily an easy task for someone who hasn't done it before or doesn't have the advantage of being taught by someone in the same room who's done it before. Again, not something I'd recommend unless you're a veteran to alignment and skate work.

Sounds like a plan, this shimming business. Since the skates are bending outwards, I'll be putting shims on the inside, is that correct?

[Davetronz 109]

Sounds like a plan, this shimming business. Since the skates are bending outwards, I'll be putting shims on the inside, is that correct?

Yes. If the skater is falling out, the shim is placed on the inside, between the holder and the outsole.

[scorer75 9]

Have you looked at the skate to make sure the holders are aligned properly to begin with?

Have you tried insoles like Superfeet to correct the issue? They are a cheap fix, work for some issues, and if they don't, u get your money back.

I'm not an expert, but a person who knows what they are doing should first figure out why the skate is bending outwards before recommending a solution. Whether it be shimming, moving the holder, or even a different boot, let an experienced person decide why it's happening and what's best to fix it.

As for actually moving holders, I had one of mine moved, took about 15 minutes and he charged me like $25 or so. I notice the difference more off the ice than when on, especially when walking up steps, but the purpose of doing it was to prevent long term injury from pronation. It doesn't make you better or faster, but with the 20+ hours a week I am on the ice, I'd like to avoid misaligned body parts.

[salibandy 21]

Superfeet seems to correct pronation; my girlfriend is getting supination.

I did check the holders, and they seem aligned. It's weird; the moment you put it on, especially the left skate, you feel like your feet is not in line with the rest of your body. It's as if the boot was molded wrongly.