Flyers trade Schenn to STL for Lehtera + picks

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The Flyers traded Brayden Schenn to the St. Louis Blues for the 27th pick (Morgan Frost), Jori Lehtera and a conditional first-round pick in 2018 during the 1st Round of the 2017 NHL Draft. 

https://www.nhl.com/news/flyers-deal-brayden-schenn-to-blues-for-jori-lehtera-picks/c-290097928?tid=278542340

A little late on my part but figured it is worth putting out here. I like the trade overall. I was hoping that the Flyers would have taken a chance on either Tolvanen or Kostin but I can't bash the Frost pick.

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Poooor trade for Flyers, compounded by horrific choice of Frost ( I would take Tolvanen). Hextall is apparently becoming a popular guy with other GM's. By taking Lehtera, this is the third straight year he's had a $5mm garbage player dumped on him (Umberger,Filpula,Lehtera).

Schenn was the Flyers best player last time they were in the playoffs, and very versatile.

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6 hours ago, clarkiestooth said:

Poooor trade for Flyers, compounded by horrific choice of Frost ( I would take Tolvanen). Hextall is apparently becoming a popular guy with other GM's. By taking Lehtera, this is the third straight year he's had a $5mm garbage player dumped on him (Umberger,Filpula,Lehtera).

Schenn was the Flyers best player last time they were in the playoffs, and very versatile.

Poor is a bit of stretch (and by no means am I a Kool-Aid drinker). While I also disagreed with the Morgan Frost pick, no way we can know if it is indeed 'horrific.' What do know that Schenn's cap hit is bigger than Lehtera ($5.125M vs. $4.7M). Lehtera's contract ends one year sooner than Schenn's (2018-19 vs. 2019-20). While Schenn was 3rd on the Flyers in pts, 55, and 2nd in goals, 25, 50.9% of his points came on the PP (17 G, 11 A). Last time I checked, no team spent half the season on the PP. He was a PP specialist who didn't put up a ton a goals. Add on top of that, he's listed as a 'C' who mainly played 'LW.' What does that mean? He was somewhat of a defensive liability. The Flyers can get up to 2 additional picks. Per Elliotte Friedman: Conditions on second pick from STL to PHI: top 10 protected, STL has option to push to 2019. If they do so, PHI also gets a third in 2020. That 'second pick' is right now slated as a 2018 1st rounder. The Umberger-Hartnell trade was similar in the fact that the cap hits were almost identical but Umberger's contract ended sooner. Flipula's trade allowed the Flyers to move Streit and (hopefully) provide more room for one of the younger blue liners to come up from juniors/LVP. I feel you in regards to your frustration. I'd say we, us Flyers fans, need to let it play out.

Edited June 28, 2017 by 215BroadStBullies610

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On ‎6‎/‎28‎/‎2017 at 3:16 PM, 215BroadStBullies610 said:

Poor is a bit of stretch (and by no means am I a Kool-Aid drinker). While I also disagreed with the Morgan Frost pick, no way we can know if it is indeed 'horrific.' What do know that Schenn's cap hit is bigger than Lehtera ($5.125M vs. $4.7M). Lehtera's contract ends one year sooner than Schenn's (2018-19 vs. 2019-20). While Schenn was 3rd on the Flyers in pts, 55, and 2nd in goals, 25, 50.9% of his points came on the PP (17 G, 11 A). Last time I checked, no team spent half the season on the PP. He was a PP specialist who didn't put up a ton a goals. Add on top of that, he's listed as a 'C' who mainly played 'LW.' What does that mean? He was somewhat of a defensive liability. The Flyers can get up to 2 additional picks. Per Elliotte Friedman: Conditions on second pick from STL to PHI: top 10 protected, STL has option to push to 2019. If they do so, PHI also gets a third in 2020. That 'second pick' is right now slated as a 2018 1st rounder. The Umberger-Hartnell trade was similar in the fact that the cap hits were almost identical but Umberger's contract ended sooner. Flipula's trade allowed the Flyers to move Streit and (hopefully) provide more room for one of the younger blue liners to come up from juniors/LVP. I feel you in regards to your frustration. I'd say we, us Flyers fans, need to let it play out.

Some good points. My main problem with the Schenn trade is that he was one of 4 players on the team (Gudas,Simmonds,Manning being the others) that didn't cower under the bench when games got physical.  The Frost pick was kinda like Hextall going into Walmart and offering to pay 5 bucks for the $1.99 loaf of bread.  Streit could have been dumped for a third round pick (going rate), and cleared the books.

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1 hour ago, clarkiestooth said:

Some good points. My main problem with the Schenn trade is that he was one of 4 players on the team (Gudas,Simmonds,Manning being the others) that didn't cower under the bench when games got physical.  The Frost pick was kinda like Hextall going into Walmart and offering to pay 5 bucks for the $1.99 loaf of bread.  Streit could have been dumped for a third round pick (going rate), and cleared the books.

Haha I like that. I hear ya. We shall see. It's going to take much more from the Flyers before I buy in 100%.