Tips on quick spin stop move?

[g3k 29]

 

Does anyone have any tips on how to do the quick spin stop move well?

I assume you do a transition and then as soon as your transitioned do a quick stop (looks like while keeping center of gravity over your toes and stop with the front of the blade) and push off the inside edge?

 

[Santos L Halper 90]

5 hours ago, g3k said:

I assume you do a transition and then as soon as your transitioned do a quick stop (looks like while keeping center of gravity over your toes and stop with the front of the blade) and push off the inside edge?

 

Kind of.  

First off, keep in mind that, unless you're Denis Savard*, in order for this move to be most effective you need to come into it rather dramatically off-angle; at least 45 degrees away from the net.  Your goal is to bait the defenseman into thinking you're taking the outside and have him start turning his hips/shoulders towards you to try to cut you off...THEN pull this move.  If he hasn't begun to turn his hips/shoulders, you'll find that it's not too difficult for a defenseman to simply stay in front of you while you flail around like you're in a washing machine.  

Anyway.  for purposes of this explanation, let's assume that you're on the right side of the ice, and the defenseman is giving you the right wall, while cutting off your direct line to the net.  As you come into the move, you need to make sure your weight is on your left inside edge.  Then, keeping your hips down and rotating your shoulders away from the defenseman, you do a quick stop on the inside edge of your left leg and the outside edge of your right leg, while transitioning your weight to that right leg.  Then, while continuing to rotate your shoulders, execute a single backwards cross-over (left over right).  Finally, as your left leg is hitting the ice on its inside edge, you're already opening your hips into a mohawk transition and beginning to move your weight back onto the right inside edge. 

Then, all that's left is to ACCELERATE off the move and drive the net.

Break it down into steps to learn it more effectively.  Start with the stop.  Then, add the backwards cross-over.  Then, add the mohawk.  Oh, and don't do it with a puck at first.  Get the footwork down, then add the puck.  Good luck!!!

 

*Yes, I know this isn't a Savard-ian spin-o-rama.  I was simply trying to illustrate that only someone LIKE Savard can take a defenseman to the middle of the ice, pull a spin move and actually have it work.....

[10013005 30]

7 hours ago, Santos L Halper said:

Kind of.  

First off, keep in mind that, unless you're Denis Savard*, in order for this move to be most effective you need to come into it rather dramatically off-angle; at least 45 degrees away from the net.  Your goal is to bait the defenseman into thinking you're taking the outside and have him start turning his hips/shoulders towards you to try to cut you off...THEN pull this move.  If he hasn't begun to turn his hips/shoulders, you'll find that it's not too difficult for a defenseman to simply stay in front of you while you flail around like you're in a washing machine.  

Anyway.  for purposes of this explanation, let's assume that you're on the right side of the ice, and the defenseman is giving you the right wall, while cutting off your direct line to the net.  As you come into the move, you need to make sure your weight is on your left inside edge.  Then, keeping your hips down and rotating your shoulders away from the defenseman, you do a quick stop on the inside edge of your left leg and the outside edge of your right leg, while transitioning your weight to that right leg.  Then, while continuing to rotate your shoulders, execute a single backwards cross-over (left over right).  Finally, as your left leg is hitting the ice on its inside edge, you're already opening your hips into a mohawk transition and beginning to move your weight back onto the right inside edge. 

Then, all that's left is to ACCELERATE off the move and drive the net.

Break it down into steps to learn it more effectively.  Start with the stop.  Then, add the backwards cross-over.  Then, add the mohawk.  Oh, and don't do it with a puck at first.  Get the footwork down, then add the puck.  Good luck!!!

 

*Yes, I know this isn't a Savard-ian spin-o-rama.  I was simply trying to illustrate that only someone LIKE Savard can take a defenseman to the middle of the ice, pull a spin move and actually have it work.....

good explanation above.

the real secret to this spin move (and to the sharp cutback against the flow along the wall to shake a checker down low) is the initial ‘chop’ with your inside foot outside edge. most players who are not advanced skaters will have their weight on the heel of their outside foot instead of the ball of their inside foot. working on that first move will unlock your ability to turn tighter and maintain your balance with the puck.

[g3k 29]

Thanks to you both, going to work on all of this.

[psulion22 402]

Both guys above are correct.  The key to this move is to engage the outside edge of the inside skate towards the toe.  That outside edge is what enables the backwards crossover, which gets the hips turned to then point the toe of the outside foot to the direction of travel.  Then the outside edge pushes to give acceleration out of the turn into the forward crossover.  Keeping your shoulders parallel to the ice instead of leaning in will help engage that outside edge and maximize the push.