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  1. Exactly what I was thinking, though illustrated in a far more professional manner :) If the blade was level along the long dimension (toe to heel), but just a bit off level along the short dimension (sharp edge to holder), then you could adjust it so the sharpening looked not *TOO* bad through most of the blade, but at the toe and heel the sharpening would be very noticeably off center, since as you mentioned they're on a different plane. With an ROH sharpening you could get it so the edges were even/level with one another even with the blade on an angle like this, but the deepest part of the hollow would be slightly off center. However, you'd really notice the problem at the heel/toe. Basically it would look like this with an ROH sharpening: Agreed, not saying he should leave it as is, just trying to help diagnose the problem.
  2. I don't sharpen my own skates, but just thinking about this logically, this is exactly what would happen if the skate blade was on an angle instead of perfectly parallel to the table. I'm not talking about an angle from the toe to the heel, but from the side that you sharpen to the side of the blade that faces into the holder. Basically, sounds like your vice isn't holding the skate perfectly parallel, and as you said is letting the weight of the boot pull it off level. My crudely drawn, highly exaggerated, MS paint pic of what I think the problem might be:
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    BASE Savoy Special

    BASE Savoy Special Flex: 75 Curve: Hossa pro Height: 6" Weight: 180 lbs Age: 25 Postition: RW Level of hockey: beer league now, highest level I've played at was HS hockey Fitting session: I didn't get the full fitting session, went in when they had a "demo days" promotion. Basically like the fitting session, but without the high speed camera, and it was totally free (no fitting charge). They let you try all sorts of flexes and curves on their artificial ice rink, even set you up with passes, took lots of time with me and explained all the options. Was a really fun experience, and the fake ice was actually pretty easy and fun to skate on. Curve: The Hossa curve is a weird curve, perfectly straight for much of it's length, then a real meat hook at the end, super open too. I wanted to try a toe curve, and it was the only one they had. Ultimately, it was not for me, used it for quite awhile but just never got the hang of it. Eventually just hacked it off, chiseled out the tenon, and have been using it as a tapered shaft ever since. Like the stick a lot more now that I've been using it with curves I'm more comfortable with (Drury and Sakic curves). Aesthetics: Plain/boring, not ugly but nothing special, 7/10 Weight/balance: Very light weight and balanced, has the weight and balance you'd expect out of a high end stick 10/10 Shaft shape: Personal preference, but I'm not a huge fan. Rounded corners, which in itself I don't mind, but it's also just a small shaft, almost like an intermediate (and no, it's not an intermediate, it says "SR" right on it). Feels very noticeably smaller in my hands than even Vapor sticks. Mark is based on personal preference, but I just wish the shaft was a bit bigger, 7/10 Blade feel: Not a big fan, pretty pingy/ceramic. Blade stayed nice and stiff, though. Didn't get the sharkskin coating, not sure whether or not that would have improved the feel, 6/10 Shooting, wrist shots: This is the whippiest 75 flex stick I've ever used, by far. Really, really whippy. People (myself included) found 77 flex one95s to feel whippier than most, but this is on a while other level. I love whippy sticks though, and my wrist/snap shots have never been better, total rockets every time (once I switched the blade to a curve I can use). 10/10 Shooting, slap shots: The huge whip helps for wrist shots, but hurts for slap shots. Just feels a bit flimsy when taking slappers, mostly because of the whip, but also a bit because of the narrow shaft dimensions (at least, I think). Still get decent power, but not as good as with some other sticks, and don't love how it feels on slappers in general. 7/10 Durability: Fantastic, I've been extremely hard on this stick, not exactly sure how long I've been using it but I wanna say about 6-8 months, a few times a week, and it's still going real strong. Kevlar wrap seems to be doing its job really well on slashes and whatnot, hasn't whipped out (very whippy, but it was like that to start with), blade stayed stiff till I chopped it off (which was just to change the curve), no complaints at all durability wise. 10/10 Value: I didn't pay for the fitting session (because of the "demo days" promotion), didn't pay for customization (don't need my name/number on there), and didn't pay for shipping (I live close to the fitting center), so it was $150.00, which is a solid deal for a light, balanced, durable stick that shoots great wristers. If you pay for the fitting session and customization it starts to get pricey, but I'm sure the full on fitting session would be pretty cool and probably worth it. Conclusion: Love this stick for wristers/snappers, not as much for slappers, be warned that it's a lot whippier than other sticks I've used rated at the same flex. Pretty good stick for the money, if they improved the blade feel and gave the shaft a bit thicker dimensions I'd buy another one for sure, as is though I'll be sticking with high end sticks from other brands when they go on clearance.
  4. Interesting, looks almost like a reverse-Drury. What I mean is that on a Drury it seems like the bottom edge has a touch of smooth mid-heel curve while the top edge is straighter, but on this curve the bottom edge seems very straight while the top edge has a bit more smooth mid-heel curve. It's all pretty subtle, but that's what I see when looking at the Drury (well, P91A actually) in my hands and comparing it to these pics. Also, from the blade profile shot, it looks to have a similar profile, but with a less rockered toe than the Drury.
  5. The actual performance differences between one year's top end skates and the next are generally close to non-existent. The improvements from year to year add up over time, so that a modern skate has major advantages over a 10 year old skate, but from year to year the differences tend to be pretty minimal. Hell, some guys are still more or less skating on Supreme 8090s (totalone classics). Pros tend to be creatures of habit, them being used to last year's product generally outweighs the minor improvements in a new product, and besides, every so often companies do put out duds, so staying a little behind the curve allows them to hear about which products are legit improvements and which products are more of a step backwards. As stated, the 7.0s are basically X60s, so many pros are sticking with them because they know that they're used to the skate, and that it works well for them. In a few years we'll probably have a thread asking "why are all these guys in Apxs instead of insert shiny new Bauer skate?" Agreed with Tondog though that it was smart to make the 7.0s look basically identical to the Apxs, pros can wear what they want and it doesn't look bad on Bauer (unlike, say, CCM, where many of their top pros were rocking the old, blue/silver U+ pro reloadeds instead of the new, very different looking U+ CLs).
  6. Not 100% sure, but I think they killed it again. If you're a big fan of the pattern and can't find any of the Shanahan-style Cammalleris, I think Patrick Kane's pro curve is pretty similar.
  7. Oops, yeah, got it confused, I'm tired and Easton has been screwing with these curve names a lot recently. It's the 2010 Cammalleri that was very similar (identical?) to the old Bauer P10/Easton Shanahan, not the newest Cammalleri, which is simply the newest name for the Modano/Forsberg/Zetterberg/etc.
  8. The 2010 Easton Cammalleri (the one that's like the old Shanahan, not the one that's like the old Forsberg) is probably your best bet. Edit: fixed mistake to avoid confusion, changed "newest" to "2010"
  9. Flawless on my PC (using Google Chrome).
  10. White lies are your friend. "I totally got it on sale for $75!"
  11. Good to know a little "window shopping" type looking around (at bigger items, when buying smaller items) is no biggie, and I definitely make sure to just keep to myself while doing so, not wasting anyone's time. I'd feel like quite a dbag using a shop as a fitting service for skates only to buy them online, but definitely not surprised it happens, a lot of people have no shame. Also, agreed on good service being key, there are a lot of hockey shops in Vancouver, the one I always try to go to is actually one of the furthest from me (takes over an hour to get their by public transit), but I always try to make the trip because their service (and their selection) is excellent. Shops full of snobs and/or ignorant kids on cell phones get my business once, at most, and only for small ticket items, but the quality shops get my business again and again. It's a bit different in Canada though, there are essentially no budget online retailers here, so no reason to order online, and once you know you're going to a brick and mortar shop, may as well go to a good one.
  12. In a similar vein, re: tire kickers vs. legit customers, I've got a question, just as a curiosity for LHS workers/owners. When I go in to make small purchases at my LHS (like tape, wax, pucks, socks, etc.), if I have some spare time, I enjoy cruising around, trying on gloves, picking up sticks (though not flexing them), etc., even though I'm not going to buy them at that point in time, I'm there for other minor things. I make sure not to take up the time of any sales people, never try on skates, etc., but could easily spend 15 mins or so just checking out what's new in the gear world for fun/curiosity/window shopping before buying whatever I'm there for. Is this considered an annoyance/bad form, or totally fine? I make my big purchases at these same few LHSs, but just less often obviously, I need new tape/wax/pucks/socks/underarmour/end plugs/etc. more often than I need new sticks, skates, etc.
  13. Interesting, looks very Drury-ish, though it's always hard to compare blade length, lie, etc. from pictures like this.
  14. Yeah, that Versteeg definitely looks quite Draper/Sakic/P92-esque, though obviously a bit different. Sounds like the Zetterberg pro is a heel wedge with a round toe, but I'm guessing it's not identical to a Kovalev/Drury/P91A, how is it different? Someone mentioned it has a touch of mid curve to it as well, maybe more like a Bauer P106? My dream curve is a P106 with less rocker (to be exact, with more of a Drury type lie and rocker), if the Zetterberg pro is anything like that I'd be in heaven :)
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