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hockeydad3

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  1. I think one mistake people make is to compare different sizes of one profile instead of comparing different profiles developped for their runner length. For example if you put a Quad II profile on a size 2 skate you will allmost get a 13' single radius profile. I am missing a good technical definition of the practical differences between the three multiradius profiles instead of calling them agility, power and dynamic. A database with the runner length, instead of skate sizes, for which the profiles were developed and a description of the effect that a bigger or smaller runner would have on the properties of the profile would be nice.


  2. 3 hours ago, xxlulzxx said:

    I could offer two sets of profiled ls3 blades to every skater on this thread (one 11 ’ and one 13’) but market them as one quad and one ellipse profile and get the same results/conversations. 

    Maybe, but only if they didn´t use a multiple radius profile before. If you are talking about the gliding area of a blade, these profiles are more or less similar to a single radius. The Quad zero has a 11' gliding area.

    I had made experiences with 10', 11' and 13' single radius profiles before. This winter I could test the Ellipse zero Profile and the True stock 9'/10' dual profile. These newer profiles have distinct and recognizable individual different properties.

    I think that those multiple radius profiles could lead to a smaller individual compromise between agility/acceleration and stability/glide.


  3. 15 minutes ago, Vet88 said:

    I have no experience with TF7's but have shimmed roller, ice and figure skates for pitch. I have never come across a skate that failed in the sole because a shim was added to the rear or front. Whilst the pitch of the boot may change, there is not a lot of flex thru the middle section because the front and rear are fixed. 2mm was what I would have started with if you wanted a noticeable change however be prepared to try 2 or 3 different heights until you find the one you want.

    Thank you for your answer. The TF7 is a one piece boot construction made of a stiff glas fiber composite material. The lower part of the boot consists of the insole, which is placed on the composite shell, and the composite shell itself. The holders are riveted directly to and through the composite shell.


  4. With my new TF7 7.0R roller skates, I would like to have a little more forward pitch. I can achieve this with my iceskates through the profile and my balance point is in the right place. Since I am very satisfied with the fit of the TF7 and the stockinsoles I would like to achieve the forward pitch through outer shims. The guys at my LHS have no experience with this and have concerns that the insertion of shims under the heel leads to a tension on the skate, which could damage it in the medium to long term. Has anyone of you have experience with this procedure and what materials have been used for? Which height do the shims need to achieve a moderate but noticeable forward pitch?


  5. 4 hours ago, JV23 said:

    All right, I've now had two more skates, 1 more fully on ellipse, where I was paying attention to things like acceleration and agility (we're talking relative terms here...while not a member of the Loyal Order of Water Buffalo, my lightweight days are behind me), and one where I started with ellipse and did a blade change back to Quad 1.  And the winner is the Quad 1.  More jump, more pop, more explosive starts, sharper turns, better pivots, better feeling of front of skate.  It's funny, I didn't really notice anything bad on the ellipse, but the minute I put the Quad back on, the guys I was with were all wondering what happened...

    So, I'm going to agree with @pgeorgan, there's something less aggressive at the front that is slowing the ellipse down.

    PS - I know I'm dating myself with the LOWB reference...ah, childhood memories of that and classic animated flashing sky Spiderman.

    Some people already had a similar opinion. It seems that you have to go down a number if you want to compare the Ellipse profile with a Quad profile of the same range.


  6. Two days ago my TF7 7.0R rolllerskates arrived. Due to wet weather i couldn´t try them outdoor, just rolling around on the parquet floor in my apartment.

    I have TF7 6.5R iceskates which are a breath too short and too tight in the toe area for me. Exchanging the felt-tongue for a pro-tongue and heatmoulding the skates with paddings on my big- and my small toe made them work for me, but they should not be a millimeter shorter. I do not know why, but the pro tongue gave me a few millimeters more length.

    Because I wanted a little more space in the toebox I decided to buy the 7.0R rollerskates, and that`s how they are feeling like at the moment. However, I would not exclude that they are a touch too long after breaking them in. So it could be that my ideal size would be 6.75R.

    The 6.5 boot has the "ToeboxLip" and the naked plastic of the toebox above, and the 7.0 boot has the end of the toebox covered with foam completely. The 7.0 boot is about 5-7mm longer than the 6.5 boot(outside, very difficult to measure). On the bottom of the sideparts I can find some small codes printed, a part of it is the "size 6" on the 6.5 boot and "size7" on the 7.0 boot. If only the padding makes the difference of the sizes, the 7.0 and the 7.5 or the 6.5 and the 7.0 should have the same length. Maybe the boots are full-sized and they combine them with different toeboxes, not only different paddings to create half sizes? Or the boots are half sized and they cut off a part of the boot to create a full size? Or they combine a full sized boot with the next bigger full sized toecap(size 6 boot with size 7 toecap = size 6.5 skate) to create a half size? Only True knows.

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  7. On 3/17/2021 at 1:04 AM, Westside said:

    Reviving this post from the dead as the city has finally taken the locks off the outdoor rink and once vaccinated I'd like to begin playing more. I've used Labeda Asphalt (orange up front and white in the back) for years on asphalt before moving to MPC Freestyle during quarantine. I skated both sets of wheels on the smooth concrete outdoor surface, which is a surface I have never really played on before, and they all slide out from under me when making tight turns/hard cuts. Since those hardnesses are basically 83a, 84a, and 85a, I am looking to move to something slightly softer for added grip. Can't seem to find much info on the Konixx Tachyon, wasn't sure if the Konixx Pure +1 would be too soft for concrete, also considered Rink Rat Trickster XX or Labeda Grippers. 

    I'm around 190lbs and at this point care more about grip than top end speed. Recommendations? 

    Can it be a topic of wear and aging of the wheels? Was the grip, ok when the wheels were new? How long is the first use of the Wheels back and did you use them in a warm environment? Did they loose their profile and did their diameter decrease significantly?


  8. With my skates size 6.5/254mm I am between the recommendations of ProSharp for the Quad Zero/XS and the Ellipse Zero/XS profile. I had the opportunity to try the Ellipse Zero profile, but I want a little more agility and acceleration without sacrificing speed and stability to much. If I understood properly, both the Quad Zero and the Ellipse XS profile are more agile than the Ellipse Zero. Could someone please tell me his experiences with these three profiles on a similarly sized skate? And what are the major differences between these profiles? I´m coming from single radius profiles and would like to know which profile I should try next.


  9. On 8/17/2020 at 8:18 PM, Westside said:

    I’ve never gone wheel crazy, but am looking forward to the R1’s arriving even more now! Will have my standard Labeda setup, the RR Tricksters, and the MPC Freestyle to try out 

    And did you have the opportunity to compare the different wheels?

    My MPC Freestyle dual wheels in a HILO setup arrived today, still waiting for my True skates to arrive. The wheels also have different grades of cloudiness/lucidity.


  10. Interesting discussion.

    From the point of view of an untrained, overweight beginner who stood on skates for the first time in his life at the age of 50, it has something to do with building muscular strength. Of course, the development of neuromuscular automatisms is at least as important.

    An example is a skating session with tightly laced, stiff skates during which the laces loosen a little. For a while I can skate with the loosened laces without any problems, but then I get muscular exhaustion and I get insecure while skating. When I tighten my skates again, I can easily skate for a while longer.


  11. Today I had the opportunity to compare the Ellipse Zero and the True Stock Profile(9'/10') on good pond ice. I´m skating in True TF7 6.5/254mm. The Ellipse felt more natural and intuitive to me than the Stock Profile. On good ice, the maneuverability of the ellipse profile is sufficient for me, although I could turn on a dime with the Stock Profile. The acceleration of the Stock Profile is better than the Ellipse, but the Ellipse is still ok for me. I think there is no need to talk about the stability advantage of the Ellipse Profile. What surprised me, however, was the clear speed advantage of the Ellipse Profile over the Stock Profile, although the Stock profile has a 95/75 FBV cut and the Stock Profile only has a 3/4'' ROH cut.

    When I compare the Ellipse Profile with my memories of my old skates with an 11' Profile at the beginning of the season before the lockdown, the Ellipse seems more agile, stable and faster to me. But this would have to be verified with the same skates and at the same time.

    If I had to choose between the profiles, I would definitely use the Ellipse Zero profile.

    If I could wish for something, I would give the Ellipse Profile a little bit more maneuverability and acceleration. Could this be the Quad Zero or the Ellipse XS Profile for me?

     


  12. 1 hour ago, flip12 said:

    Have you tried adding some padding above your toes in the box? True sticks with the Velcro attachment of the tongue to facilitate shifting the tongue up or down over the toes, similar to adding POWERFOOT inserts. This can relieve enough toecap pressure if you need something to help bide the time until the foams compress a bit, which could also help in time. Eventually you might not need anything to take the edge off, depending on how much the foams compress.

    My target is to get a better ankle-/heellock without the need of tying the laces close to my painlimit. I have very little room between tying my laces too loose or too tight. Maybe I should give the skates more time to break in and do another bake.

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