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4 minutes ago, SkateWorksPNW said:Sounds about right. The main thing about the FT3 Pro that everyone remarked on was how forgiving the FT3 Pro. If you took a shot while balanced it was great, but its the times where the puck was outside of the shooting area or the player was off-balance that the FT3 Pro still gave a good release whereas many of the other sticks would shoot muffins.
Yep, exactly that. It's not just shots either, passes (especially saucer passes) are also flatter and crisp even when reaching or off balance. You don't get that wobbling or flipping end-over-end pass.
I'll attribute it to the "hybrid" kick point. They have tuned it so that no matter your hand position or how you load it, it flexes somewhere and gives you energy behind the puck.
But, some of this may also be the P90TM curve as well. Either way, I'll buy as many of these as I can get, especially once they get discounted when the FT4 comes out.
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Not that it's scientific in any way, but I am amending my vote to the FT3 Pro. It doesn't quite have the same explosive shot as the Nexus ADV at the very top end. But it shoots harder and more consistenly hard in just about every other situation. So times where you're off balance or your technique isn't quite right, it still fires hard shots, as opposed to the ADV which gave ducks. I like the 5 sided shaft of the Nexus better, but prefer the more lively blade of the FT3 Pro. Add in the availability of the P90TM curve and this FT3 Pro might be the best stick I've ever used.
I broke my first one in the middle of a skate and had to switch to the Nexus ADV as the backup for the rest. When compared directly back to back that quickly, the FT3 was the clear winner. I drove 45 minutes one way to buy another the next day.
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So as I posted earlier, my local Postmaster suggested filing an insurance claim if you're the sender for any package that has been missing or stuck "in transit" for the claim window of the service you used.
I did that for a package had been stuck for 15 days. It was finally delivered 2 days later. Today I received a payout check for $64 for that claim, given because the item was past due.
If you are the sender of a package that still hasn't been delivered - FILE YOUR CLAIM!
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As everyone else has said, the new fit system is meant to allow users to choose their skates based on features, rather than fit. Supremes are meant for “power”. They will wrap the foot better (the reason for the removal of the injected eyelets), and have features like the reflex tongue and tendon guard meant to improve stride efficiency and power transfer. Vapor are for “agility”. They have features meant to enhance lateral skating like the asymmetrical last, injected eyelets (less wrap), and heel ribs. There will be slight variations in feel because of that, but they won’t be as big as they used to be. Someone like you who felt they fit in a Supreme best in the past may now find a Vapor in a Fit 2 to be much more comfortable and similar than before.
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As others have said, it's a holiday/Covid backlog. Packages are running 2-3 weeks for domestic delivery. The status will show as "in transit" which simply means the parcel has been scanned out and loaded onto a container, but that container is sitting in a parking lot or warehouse somewhere, waiting to be driven to the next location.
I had the same problems as everyone else, but I filed an inquiry. That got me a phone call from my local postmaster, who advised me that once your package enters the claim window, you should file an insurance claim. That gets people searching for the package, which then moves it along the chain faster. For the two packages that I have had issues with, every time I filed the inquiry, they moved the next day. My postmaster told me they have pictures of huge parking lots filled every inch with packed trailers waiting to be moved. They don't have enough trucks or drivers to move them along.
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On 1/3/2021 at 2:10 PM, rh71el2 said:Did 2 passes each skate. Kid noticed zero difference in terms of glide or fatigue. Sometimes I wonder...
I'd do another 2 just to make sure. But it is possible that the edges are still too deep for him to notice the difference. What I mean is as a skater you can tell the difference between skates that have too much bite, are just right, and don't have enough. But you might not be able to tell the difference between edges that have varying degrees of too much or too little. Just as you can tell the difference between sharp skates and dull skates, but maybe not so much of how dull they are once they get there. An 1/8" difference may only be noticeable if it's crossing from one preference to another (ie too much bite to just right)
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I'd say that it's most likely due to manufacturers really pushing the weight reductions in their sticks. Solid wood weighs more than hollow carbon fiber,
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If you still need width and volume in a Supreme EE, I'd try to find a Nexus EE as a test before starting the process with Bauer. They're discontinued, so you should be able to find one realtively cheap. I just think it would be a good way of getting a reference point for what Bauer may or may not be able to do. This way you'll have more information and not have to guess what will work and won't going into a custom order. Just my .02
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Can the new guys do all the same things you could, ie Quad profiles on Flare steel?
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57 minutes ago, Dnyge79 said:This is exactly what I’ve been looking for. I guess Im a low skater, and love the p88 due to it’s low lie. Ive tried so many times to like the p92 bc i can elevate the puck and feel like I have more power on my shot, but i feel like the toe is up off the ice, so I have missed a few passes, especially if I have to reach a bit in front of me for the puck. I was looking on pro stock for a p92 with a 4 lie, there were only 3 options for my hand and flex, maybe I’ll try this instead. Warrior used to make the w03 in either 4 or 5 lie, but discontinued the 4’s before I thought to try them.
Bauer makes the P92 in a Lie 5, for special orders. It's not quite as low as the P88, but is lower than the regular retail Lie 6. Warrior's numbers are all one lower than Bauer, so a Bauer lie 5 is a Warrior Lie4. But it's all subjective anyway since the P88, listed as a lie 6, is significantly lower than a P92, also a 6, and even lower than a P92 Lie 5 or the P28, which is also a 5.
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On 10/7/2020 at 3:57 PM, SkateWorksPNW said:I like the Quad2, I'm not a huge fan of the Quad0.5.
It's all personal though.
I have never tried a 8/9/14 but I have used the Zuperior on Flare and it feels great. Lots of speed and stability. Can easily skate around defenders instead of having to cut through them.
As for the zone transitions, they are all pretty much the same between the various Quad profiles.
Thanks. Quad 1 just felt better to me, more agile but also quicker, if not necessarily faster. It makes sense given the shorter radius on most of the zones. 8/9/14 is stable but I don't feel quicker or faster, my strides feel more powerful, but it doesn't seem to translate. Zuperior might be better because of the shorter front section. But I'm thinking Quad 2 is the way to go. Everything is just one foot longer, so I should get close to the same agility with a little more top end speed, without that skating on rails feeling.
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27 minutes ago, SkateWorksPNW said:Don't have the Flare pitched and it wont eat off all of the toe of the steel. The standard Pro Sharp profiles have pitch built into them natively which is what takes off so much of the toe.
You did my Quad 1. You left it unpatched and I still felt the 6' ate off too much, especially compared to the 8' I have now. Plus, like I said, I'm looking for a little more top speed, which probably means a longer back radius. So, Quad 0.5 for the longer front 2 zones and a little more of the back zone or Quad 2 mostly for the longer middle zones since the end zones will be smaller on 272 steel?
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Are the lengths of the 4 zones the same on all the Quad profiles? I used to have a Quad 1 on my Flare steel. As discussed in that thread, the 6' front was eating away too much of the flare and probably unnecessary. I was also looking for a little more speed, so I switched to a 8-9-14 on my new steel. It might be a touch faster in the long end, but I prefered the Quad. I cracked my steel last night, so am considering switching the profile again for a new set. Will the Quad 0.5 give me the same feeling as the Q1, with a little more speed? Or are the zone lengths the same, meaning the back area is still pretty small, leaving me with a mostly 12' main portion? Should I go to Quad 2? Im on 272 steel, which is on the smaller end for Quad 2.
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19 hours ago, beardacus said:Last question for you guys. Is the p90tm and p88 the same lie?
I'd say they're close enough to call them the "same". My P90TM and P88 are cut the exact same length and I don't notice any differences in the way the blade is touching the ice. The tape on the bottom is still wearing evenly on both. Both are much lower than a P29/92, even the lie 5 variant.
Just get it. If you're a P88 user but want better puck control and elevation on shots and passes, that's what this curve is. I can't tell you that you'll be able to hit the exact same spot as with your P92. I can tell you that you will shoot better and higher than the P88, but still get all the puck certainty benefits of the P88. And you won't shoot as high as a P28. If you really don't like it, and use a RH 70 flex FT3 Pro, I'll buy it from you.
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15 hours ago, beardacus said:psullion22 thanks very much for your write up. My local proshop still doesnt have any p90tm's in stock unfortunately so I cant really compare it, but judging by the most recent pictures boo10 posted it almost looks like the p90tm is more open than a p29. Do you think that might be because of the angle he is holding it at in the picture? Or maybe because of the bend in the toe?
From your experience with the p90tm have you had any issues with shots going over the net? I have very good control on my shots with the p29 but have had issues when shooting with my friends p28s.
15 hours ago, boo10 said:Having held them all in my hand at the same time, I can tell you the the curvature of the P29 and P90TM are pretty close to identical up to the point of the toe kink. It opens up more at the kink. In terms of blade shape, it appears to have less rocker than the P29.
I agree with boo10, P90TM is the same as P92 up until about the last inch or two of the toe. It opens more at the toe, but that may also just be an illusion because of the beak curve. I have more control of my shots and keep them lower with P90TM than I did with P92. But I also have more control and can elevate them faster and higher than with P88. This curve is really the best of all three worlds, for me at least.
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On 10/2/2020 at 8:22 PM, beardacus said:Colins thank you very much for that picture and information. Judging by your description I'm not sure if the blade is open enough for me?
What I am basically looking for is a p29 curve with a taller blade and flatter rocker. I play defense and the p88 does everything I want except I have trouble hitting top corners. With the p29 my shot is perfect from everywhere but I need the taller blade and flatter rocker while playing the defensive side of the game.
My proshop does not have the curve for me to look at unfortunately.
I think the P90TM retail curve might work for you. I'm also a P88 using defenseman because I need the flatter rocker and taller blade, plus the wide rounded toe and lower lie. P29/92 has way too much rocker for me. P28 has too much of a narrow arrowhead shaped toe. The retail P90TM is very similar to the flat rocker and wider blade as the P88 from the heel to the middle. Then it opens up like a P29/92 until the very end of the toe where it has a slight beak like the P28 but still the wider toe of the P29/92/88. It's not quite as open as the P29 at the end of the toe because of the beak. But it's definitely more open than a P88. Honestly, this is probably my favorite curve because it gives me the best of everything while eliminating most of the drawbacks. You get the flat, wide blade of the P88, but with more openness and rocker in the toe. Plus the openness of the P29/92 without the rocker and thinness of the heel. With P29/92, I would often get the puck rolling off the toe, likely because the amount of rocker from heel to toe. That doesn't happen on P90TM because the hooked toe keeps the puck in place. So I get nice flat saucer passes, and quick puck elevation without the rocker. And the toe curve of the P29 to keep the puck on the stick and for shooting, without the extreme rocker and arrowhead shape on the toe.
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Those custom $450 shoes aren't even comparable for this discussion.
Adidas makes shoes with a 4D printed outsole, exactly like this, that don't cost any more than the top tier running shoe with their advanced foam tech (Boost). Advanced foams are expensive. They are used sparingly in small sections of the helmet. That requires multiple types of foams and materials to be sourced and then all of them assembled. A "4D" printed interior may reduce the number of materials and assembly time needed and keep the price in line. I'm sure it will be slightly higher because well, fancy new tech. But it's doubtful it will be double the current price of the top of the line helmet.
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8 minutes ago, flip12 said:Huh, your take on True's construction sounds different than mine. What makes you think the way they build their boots is closer to Bauer's method, fusing a quarter piece to the heel/outsole piece?
I just answered this, turns out I was mistaken. I thought it was that because of the large composite heel piece on the outside that was present on all the skates, even when the quarter is made of different materials. So I thought they were taking that composite heel and outsole and attaching it to whatever the quarter is.
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19 hours ago, Hills said:I'm curious how CCM explains their AS1 skates splitting down what looks like a seam on a bunch of their boots if it is all one piece.
19 hours ago, SkateWorksPNW said:The previous generations may start with a one-piece frame but there are layers added to it. The new AS3 Pro "seems" to in fact be one-piece but I won't know until we start seeing the first ones start to break down or fail so I can tear the skate down and look at it more in depth. Note: I am not saying the AS3 Pro is by any means a poorly made skate, just that with it being popular we will eventually see some come back under warranty returns, satisfaction guarantee, or due to defects.
The TRUE boot and Bauer Ultrasonic are not even remotely close in design. The TRUE heritage is more closely related to the MLX and MAKO, if anything.
That's a really interesting video because he's showing you the inner shell of the skate. I was wrong, I thought True was making that using two pieces fused together. That's what Bauer is doing with the Ultrasonic. CCM is doing the same as True and making it out of one piece also. Any seams could be the layering of other pieces or the way the composite fabric is cut. It's made with a cut out pattern just like any other garment and the piece is laid out in the mold to form the shell. If CCM is using a pattern where two ends have to be folded onto each other, there could be a seam like appearance. When it comes down to it, all theese "one piece" boots are using the same design concept - create a solid shell that makes the Quarter and outsole one piece and eliminates the midsole. That creates stiffness and stability through the heel and the bottom of the skate. Both Bauer and True are even using the same term - "unibody". How they layer materials on that shell vaires from skate to skate, but the one piece shell remains the same through all of them. I believe the difference between the Ultrasonic and the True/CCM is that Bauer is making that shell in two pieces. They are making the composite quarter like they have for pretty much any skate for years. Then they are making a composite heel and outsole piece and fusing them together in a mold using resin. It's one complete shell made of two pieces. It's not the old process where they would make a composite shell and then attach the midsole and outsole to it using glue and nails. That's how they are making the 3S Pro - same two pieces, but made using the old method.
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1 hour ago, IPv6Freely said:I'm having a tough time following what you're saying because of the grammar. Are you saying there is no difference between the one95 and the 3S Pro boots?
Yes, that’s what he’s saying. And then further that the only difference between the 3S Pro and the Ultrasonic is the tongue and the steel. 🙄
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7 minutes ago, flip12 said:Wait, if CCM has one-piece boots doesn’t True as well?
I believe the True boot is closer to the Bauer design than the CCM, that being different pieces fused together. CCM is one, uncut piece of material for the whole boot, except the toe cap. Bauer and True are taking a quarter piece and a heel/outsole piece and fusing them together with resin in a mold. Bauer is using Curv composite for the whole thing, while True is varying the materials on each model.
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13 hours ago, djinferno said:I completely agree with this view, I have a pair of 1S skates and the lacing system is its best feature but the failure rate is not acceptable, in 2 years, i had to fix both skates for the second time now...
My repair guy commented that the original thread used is very flimsy, I agree that the Ultrasonic losing this feature is a major downgrade as the lacing is not as consistent from game to game...
Bauer wont admit it but they've had to go backwards and are behind the competition not being able to go to a 1 piece boot, add to the fact that they now sell there flagships for 1150$ canadian, they made sure they made the new 3S Pro with just a regular felt with no protection so if you play competitive, you have to step up if you want protection in the tongue...
These new boots are very similar to what they had with the old One95's in terms of features, only with a new toe cap featuring a rivet...
This boot is a semi-one piece boot. It's nothing like the One95. They are wrapping the outsole up the heel and then fusing it to the quarter in the mold, similar to what True does. The 3S Pro is the same design but they are just gluing and stitching the outsole and not fusing it. Ultrasonics have the flexible tendon guard, the reflex tongue, significantly better internal foams and liner, a much, much more formable quarter, and a formable lace system. The whole point of this skate is to wrap around the foot and remove as much negative space as possible. They're still using the injected facing in the Vapor skates, so it's not a quality decision, but rather a design decision to differentiate between lines. The tongue on the 3S Pro has Curv composite plates in it to make it heat formable and give protection. It's not just basic felt. Even the 3S has a reflex tongue. I do agree they are probably behind CCM without a true one piece boot, but so is everyone else then too, since CCM is the only one that offers that.
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26 minutes ago, justinpryor said:I have heard amazing things about the FT3 pro. BUt even better about the Nexus geo or adv.
Ill hold out for the nexus late in the year. Every person who used the ADV said it was the most insane shooting stick ever.
It is, or for me at least. I think for a person that typically uses a low kick stick, the ADV is giving them some real improvements. The best way I can describe it is that it's giving the power and accuracy of a mid kick with the release speed of a low. I get almost the same power out of my 2N Pro, but the pop and release off the ADV is much better. I'm interested to see how much of the blade tech, if any, they integrate into the Geo. The 5 sided shaft is great too, so that's already a plus.
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I wish you could have gotten a Nexus ADV in there too. But this is great, thanks! I loooove my ADV, but the P90TM curve is very enticing. I'm happy to hear that the FT3 Pro is getting such great reviews (yours isn't the only one that says this) because it means I might be able to try out that curve on a stick I like. I liked the P30 curve, but the Trigger2, Trigger3, and original Jetspeed I tried it on were all garbage compared to the 1X Lite, 2016 1X, and 2N Pro with P88 that I had been using (imo of course). So I just wasn't ever able to use it.
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Nick is correct, starting in 2016 with the 1S, all the lasts got 1/4 size smaller. This was partly due to the change to the SpeedPlates from the footbed that had the removable tabs. Since retail sizing is in 1/2 size increments, most people would need to size up a half size when going from the MX3 to the 1S, and down a 1/2 size going the other way. If you have an inbetween 1/4 size, you could possibly stay the same size. Tl:dr - if a MX3 and 1S are the same size, the 1S will fit smaller.