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my son has had heal shims in his bauer vapors for several years. He's now on his second pair of VH skates. They build the shim right into the boot, no shim needed. He's been happy with the pitch, just like his bauers with shims.
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I continue to believe these are the best skates out there. After 4 months of junior hockey, skating 6 days a week my sons pair are still in great shape. He continues to believe they are the most comfortable skates he's ever used. We have yet to have an issue with a single rivet, it was always a problem with his custom Bauers X60, APX and APX2s. I would recommend getting the protective coating over the toe cap, and the double stitching when you order. His skating has improved significantly with these has well. Most people have gone to less bite with their edges he has asked me to give him more bite which is interesting.
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Scott put two on each side in front and back. He suggested doing this when I told him how much trouble we have had keeping rivets in my son's skates. https://db.tt/vWhZOcgI
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I had Scott install 8 copper rivets in my sons skates, 4 in the front and 4 in the back. On every pair of skates he has owned he has trouble keeping rivets in them. Not sure why they loosen up on his skates, but he hasn't yet had a problem with his VH skates. If they do start coming loose I'm just going to install Graf skews.
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The screw is still there its just under the thick coat of epoxy.
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nope, I'm just a typical hockey dad, we're nuts:)
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I received the set I ordered for my son, very impressed with this skate, they are a great looking boot. My son has skated in Vapors for many years. When the Makos came out I got a set for him as I think their design would help improve most aspects of his skating. He hated the Makos couldn't skate on them and was not interested in spending the time in them to get use to them so I sold them. We have been ordering custom vapors his last few pairs as he has a narrow foot and even the vapor in D is too wide. He continues to blow out the Vapors at the junction of the toe cap and quarter package. His last pair has been repaired twice and needed to be fixed again, so I decided to look at other options. I was a little hesitant to order the VH after the experience with the Makos, but after speaking with Scott I decided to pull the trigger. My son says these are the most comfortable skates he's ever owned. The fit is perfect, I was amazed at how soft they got when they came out of the oven. I was at first concerned that they might be too stiff as the lower quarters are rock hard. He loves the amount of forward flex he get much more than his APX2s, with more support were it needs to be. I noticed a deeper knee bend in just a few lapse around the rink. I requested a little higher boot, double stitching at the toe quarter package junction, protective coating on the toe, extra copper rivets, offset holders for his pronation, 1/8th inch heal shims, Bauer Edge holders, and felt tongues. They came just as requested, and I'm impressed with the quality of construction. We didn't put them on a scale but both agree they are lighter than the APX2s. The only question left moving forward is durability, if they hold up I don't see him wearing anything else anytime soon.
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I agree with the last few generations of skates being too stiff, that is the main reason I became interested in the makos. Players like my son are in adult sizes, he's wearing a 9.5, but are not at an adults strength level yet. Though he does well with the APX and they fit him well I think the level of stiffness in the boot is far too much for a young man that has yet to develop and is hindering his ability to skate to the best of his ability. I'm hoping that after a few months in the makos he will develop a new level of agility as well as become a more efficient skater. I just hope the level of durability is there to get at least a year of skating out of them. He is pretty hard on skates, he has been able to get 2 years of skating out of his APX, we got them right when they came out, but they look like the have been through war.
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I recently purchased a pair of these for my son. He skated on them for the first time last night and came home complaining that he experienced some serious lace bite. He fits well into these skates very good, there is no depth issue at all. I think he might have just tied them too tight, he is coming from APXs and I think he might have thought because of the more flexible boot he needed to tie them tighter. If this is not the case what else would cause this, the tongue needing to break in? Also I have read that some have "fixed" this problem with a different insole. He has always used superfeet but with these skates we just went with the stock insole could this make a difference?
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Wrangler I was curious if these were the wide or the normal width. My son has a narrow foot, his last pair was a set of custom APX with C width. These appeared to fit him, I was at a store where there wasnt anyone that has much experience fitting skates. If we decide to buy them I will drive a couple hours south to get them from a store with more experienced help. From what I can tell from reading here getting a skate on the narrow side would allow the skate to open up when baked and ultimaltely fit his foot better. I was asking the question to get an idea if the skates he tried on are a D width and as narrow as they get or a EE width and there is a more narrow width available. I'm waiting a few months to see if there are questions about durability before we make a purchase.
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My son tried on a pair today, he loved them. Now that I have had a chance to see these in person, I have concerns about durabiltiy. My son is a grinder type player his skates look like they have been through war. How good is Easton at standing behind their product? How long would they expect these to hold up under normal wear. I can't see that webbing on the side panels holding up all that well, but I could be wrong. Also the pair he tried was a 9.5 D and they looked to be a D, but I pulled the insole out to look at the inside and the sticker on the bottom said 9.5 EE. Could these have been put in the wrong box from the factory? They only had one pair of 9.5s so I couldnt campare them to another pair.
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I use the orange wheel. Some have had problems chipping the nitinol while sharpening, I have never had this issue with the orange stone. Its been just over a year now since 'i sharpened my first set the orange works fine. The key I think is to dress you wheel more frequently. You can tell by the spark trail when its time to give the spinner a turn. I have a friend down south who maintains a set for his son he has no "mechanical" background what so ever and he is trucking along with no issues as well. Patience is the key. It might take longer to sharpen but the edge last forever so you sharpen less. The blades currently on my sons skates have were put on last Nov and they still look brand new as far as their height. These could easily last 3 to 4 years before they will need to be replaced. I don't skate on them myself but my son has no interest in going back to steel they perform that well.
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I would go with nitinol, I maintain a couple of sets with an X02 with no trouble. They take a few more passes but they are worth the effort.
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I was in no way trying to argue I just stated the bake time for these skates in a Bauer oven and that these guys know Bauer as good as anyone. If an issue developes with these skates I am very comfortable that I would be taken care of.
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Yup 7 min, I'm with you but I will say these guys know Bauer as well as anyone I'm not concerned just surprised.
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These were baked for seven minutes in a Bauer oven, both at the same time. I thought it was a longer time than I remember in the past.
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Why does Bauer add the third copper rivet on their retail skates? I have yet to get custom insoles made for him, its next on the list. We moved the holders in on his previous skates (X60) and he thought it helped his skating out quite a bit. I decided to have these ones done right from the factory so we only have one set of hole in the sole plate. He skated today in them 2 games and two clinics, with zero issues, he loves them. They look great on his feet, it was worth the extra money to get a pair that fits this well. How long did you bake your total ones?
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that is the tongue that comes on the retail APX with added length.
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yes he left it out, he never used it.
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yes those are Nitinol, these are an early pair they don't come in gold any more. I placed the order in March so I was at the front of the line, not sure what the turn around time is currently.
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Here are the custom APX I just got back for my son. I find it odd the way they did the comfort wrap, or lack there of. Also the clarino doesn't appear to go as far down on these customs. We went custom because he has very narrow feet these are C width. Also we wanted the runners moved in to help with his pronation. I notice they did not use a third copper rivet on the front mount? We also had the heel counter "carved out" which I'm told helps reduce the chance of getting Bauer bumps. He loves the fit, its the first skate that completely locks his heel. http://www.dennistracyphotography.com/friends/apx1.jpg http://www.dennistracyphotography.com/friends/apx2.jpg http://www.dennistracyphotography.com/friends/apx3.jpg http://www.dennistracyphotography.com/friends/apx4.jpg
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I had a bat gage for awhile as well as the HDI, the gage works well most of the time, but not nearly as good as the HDI. The HDI is twice as much, but in my opinion worth every penny.
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I ordered a set of custom APX for my son and they only took measurements, no foot trace. This shop does tons of customs, I'm confident that his measurements will be correct for my sons foot, 2 weeks from Friday we should have them I will let you know how it works out. Do most people that get Bauer customs have the ankle counter "rounded out" i was told it helps to reduce Bauer bumps?
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I have most of my players skating on 95/75, its a close equivalent to the 100/50. Most feel 100/75 it too much bite and 90/75 is not enough. The 95/75 has been a the answer for me.
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I think it is the best way to be sure that you ground out the round hollow, which will be .003 deep. When you see the needle deflect to .003 you know that the deepest part of the round is still present. It is more durable than you think, I've dropped mine a few times and its still works fine, and its quicker to set up than you think once you get the hang of it. Because it measures the depth of hallow you can check a skate when you get it and know which radius they are currently skating on, which is handy from time to time as well.
