sherwood21 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2005 You want me to elaborate. Their disposable garbage! They are great looking skates with no durability to them. Most guys I've spoken to about them have had theirs for quite a few months and their already softening up. Look at Tacks, Grafs , Mission S Series and Easton Snergys too. If you have had them for quite a few months, and they are starting to soften, that is great durabiliity. Don't buy these and think that you'll be able to skate to the moon and back with them and still have any support/stiffness. If you buy these, understand that you are sacrificing a certain level of durability for performance.As for looking at other brands, they will all fit differently. Synergy Skates fit way differently than XXXs do...as do Tacks, and all the models of Grafs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkStar50 679 Report post Posted October 10, 2005 If you need to get them custom stiffened to have them last for you, the regular ones you get on the retail market can't be too good. THINK ABOUT THAT! Actually a lot of pros skate in #2 retail stiffness Bauer boots. The # 4 stiffness boot I picked up would be extremely too stiff for most retail skate buyers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger-#8 1 Report post Posted October 10, 2005 is there a nice stiffness #3. INbetween the super stiff #4 and the #2 that breaks down? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkStar50 679 Report post Posted October 10, 2005 is there a nice stiffness #3. INbetween the super stiff #4 and the #2 that breaks down? Yes, there is also a #3 stiffness in custom make up Bauer boots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3804 Report post Posted October 10, 2005 Besides when web sites like epionions.com who do studies on different new products Please, let's not spread any myths...Epinions is just what its name suggests - a site where ANYONE can post his or her personal opinions, period. And that is a fine thing, such as it is.But it is NOT a site which carries out scientific, objective product evaluation or benchmarking studies.There is a big difference.Thanks,Ken Hey Ken - long time no hear...it's been a while. :)Agreed - there are guys on here who are much more knowledgeable than the ones on epinions. ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobrAA 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2005 Besides when web sites like epionions.com who do studies on different new products Please, let's not spread any myths...Epinions is just what its name suggests - a site where ANYONE can post his or her personal opinions, period. And that is a fine thing, such as it is.But it is NOT a site which carries out scientific, objective product evaluation or benchmarking studies.There is a big difference.Thanks,Ken Hey Ken - long time no hear...it's been a while. :)Agreed - there are guys on here who are much more knowledgeable than the ones on epinions. ;) just think about the guys who said that M1 was True one piece...(if my memory serve me) we had a discussion about this guys on epinions...who wrote opinions after using it 3 shift...I had a sizing problem with my Flexlite and there durabillity was pretty bad after 1month and a half...then after using the good one...they felt way more strong...I think you should look in the review section for info...without putting my hand in the fire, I THINK...BNH skate are great(maybe the best skate(if your feet fit in) for maybe 1 years...after they get bad...they are super stiff the first 2-3 ice time...after they are perfect...the give you nice ankle support and everything! but once they get soft...they get softer and softer real fast..think about this:After XXX Skate CCM tack 1152 stiffness3 month 95% 95%6month 95% 90%9month 90% 85%12month 85% 80%13month 82% 77%14month 79% etc 15month 75% ...okay it not the best thing...but last year on a 17 player team..11 of them had BNH skate...and it always seem to be this...first year it perfect and it get down pretty fast...my 1152 lasted me a good 18 month but the last 6 month i had them they lost by 30% their stiffness and been unskatable...by the way i skate 4 time per week 1h30 plus shinny hockey and stuff like this... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites