Shanahan/Gleason Tilt

[warrior37 0]

too much hate here...does anyone really know sean avery or his team mates or any of his friends...you make this guy out to be worse than a T.O......not saying i like avery or anything but think about it, the guy probably can out skate, shoot, score, hit, and i will go as far to say out fight anyone here, oh and as long as he is in the NHL he will make at least $450,000 a year, anyone here come close? also id put maltby right in the same category as avery...and it kind of looked like hordichuk jumped him to me

[DarkStar50 679]

too much hate here...does anyone really know sean avery or his team mates or any of his friends...you make this guy out to be worse than a T.O......not saying i like avery or anything but think about it, the guy probably can out skate, shoot, score, hit, and i will go as far to say out fight anyone here, oh and as long as he is in the NHL he will make at least $450,000 a year, anyone here come close? also id put maltby right in the same category as avery...and it kind of looked like hordichuk jumped him to me

As I mentioned on another post about Avery: old school guys like Terry O'Reilly, Stan Johnathan or John Wensink never let their lips do the talking, they let their mitts do the talking! When Avery backs it up by throwing them, then he will have proven that he can go with anyone. Any player that talks the talk, but won't walk the walk isn't worth having in my dressing room. I don't have to know him personally to feel that way.

As for MSHers not being in the Show, well I don't need to be in the NHL to have an opinion. As for the $$, you might be surprised what people can earn when they work for a living. Besides, he is one phone call away from a bus ride to Palookaville. And then he can kiss that 450K bye-bye.

[Fletch 219]

Besides, he is one phone call away from a bus ride to Palookaville. And then he can kiss that 450K bye-bye.

Not hardly. His contract is a one-way deal. He'll be making $532,000 this season and next, regardless of if he is sent to the minors, waived, etc.

[DarkStar50 679]

Besides, he is one phone call away from a bus ride to Palookaville. And then he can kiss that 450K bye-bye.

Not hardly. His contract is a one-way deal. He'll be making $532,000 this season and next, regardless of if he is sent to the minors, waived, etc.

I hope he is saving it for a rainy day. The weather can get crappy mighty quickly in the life of an NHL career. Ask Langdon, Oliwa, Troy Crowder and others back on the road crew in Ontario.

[Jason Allison 0]

As for MSHers not being in the Show, well I don't need to be in the NHL to have an opinion. As for the $$, you might be surprised what people can earn when they work for a living. Besides, he is one phone call away from a bus ride to Palookaville. And then he can kiss that 450K bye-bye.

He is way too good of a player to not be playing in the NHL. He's not being sent down to manchester anytime soon.

[DarkStar50 679]

As for MSHers not being in the Show, well I don't need to be in the NHL to have an opinion. As for the $$, you might be surprised what people can earn when they work for a living. Besides, he is one phone call away from a bus ride to Palookaville. And then he can kiss that 450K bye-bye.

He is way too good of a player to not be playing in the NHL. He's not being sent down to manchester anytime soon.

I'm not saying he doesn't belong in the NHL but if his coaches, teammates, and especially, management get tired of his act, he could be in for a rude awakening. Check yesterdays waiver wire to see how short life can be in the Show, no matter who you are. There will always be a place for Avery type players in the league. Its up to guys like him to figure out when to turn it up or turn it down. His track record shows he hasn't figured that part out yet. Ken Linseman made a strong and long career out of being a s***disturber in the NHL. He never finished what he started but he could play the game at both ends of the rink. I am not comparing the two quality of players, just the types of players. Sean Avery is nowhere near Ken Linseman in talent. Linseman did make his linemates better players. I'm not sure if Avery can say the same.

[warrior37 0]

how does anyone know that his coaches, teammates, and management have a problem with him, i think if they do theyd tell him to shut his trap and this is sort of on topic....i remember someone posting "his teammates didnt even celebrate with him" well yeah it was too little too late, no one celebrated, but notice how gleason was there to try and get hordichuk, also tim answered the call when shanny threw a mean elbow, not that gleason does or does not like him but no matter if its celebrating a goal or sticking up for a teamie, his teammates arent going to give him the cold shoulder after he does something good for the team

[DarkStar50 679]

how does anyone know that his coaches, teammates, and management have a problem with him, i think if they do theyd tell him to shut his trap and this is sort of on topic....

Of course, none of us know what goes on with Sean and the Kings(except maybe SRI).

[msander 0]

Fine, he should fight an enforcer and get his butt kicked.  Maybe he'll learn something.  I'm guessing he's way too stupid to learn anything though.

Yeah, kinda like that Bertuzzi guy....

I understand that you're trying to take a dig at me, but that's the best you could come up with? I don't even quite understand how the Bertuzzi situation is related to this at all. If anything, all you're doing is proving my point right. That entire awful situation would have been avoided if Bertuzzi got to have a go with Moore, instead it deteriorated into a terrible incident. So I guess in a roundabout way you're saying you agree with me and Avery should just go ahead and get his ass whooped a few times?

[Fletch 219]

Fine, he should fight an enforcer and get his butt kicked.  Maybe he'll learn something.  I'm guessing he's way too stupid to learn anything though.

Yeah, kinda like that Bertuzzi guy....

I understand that you're trying to take a dig at me, but that's the best you could come up with? I don't even quite understand how the Bertuzzi situation is related to this at all. If anything, all you're doing is proving my point right. That entire awful situation would have been avoided if Bertuzzi got to have a go with Moore, instead it deteriorated into a terrible incident. So I guess in a roundabout way you're saying you agree with me and Avery should just go ahead and get his ass whooped a few times?

What I'm alluding to is the fact that a member of "your team" managed to perform one of the most vicious acts in the history of the game, and no matter what Avery says or does on and off this ice, it will take a hell of a feat to be as infamous as that piece of shit (Bertuzzi).

As for his future, I think he should continue his strong defensive play against the opposing team's top lines. And if that means he has to "turtle" (and I use that term loosely, based on the Hordichuk incident where he was jumped from behind) and draw five minute major power play opportunities, giving the Kings a chance to win, so be it.

Get it through your head - he doesn't give a - anyone says about him, especially people like yourself. He'll do or say whatever he wants and he's not going anywhere anytime soon so you had better get used to the fact that he's here to stay.

[beaucoup_fish 0]

Fine, he should fight an enforcer and get his butt kicked.  Maybe he'll learn something.  I'm guessing he's way too stupid to learn anything though.

Yeah, kinda like that Bertuzzi guy....

I understand that you're trying to take a dig at me, but that's the best you could come up with? I don't even quite understand how the Bertuzzi situation is related to this at all. If anything, all you're doing is proving my point right. That entire awful situation would have been avoided if Bertuzzi got to have a go with Moore, instead it deteriorated into a terrible incident. So I guess in a roundabout way you're saying you agree with me and Avery should just go ahead and get his ass whooped a few times?

What I'm alluding to is the fact that a member of "your team" managed to perform one of the most vicious acts in the history of the game, and no matter what Avery says or does on and off this ice, it will take a hell of a feat to be as infamous as that piece of shit (Bertuzzi).

As for his future, I think he should continue his strong defensive play against the opposing team's top lines. And if that means he has to "turtle" (and I use that term loosely, based on the Hordichuk incident where he was jumped from behind) and draw five minute major power play opportunities, giving the Kings a chance to win, so be it.

Get it through your head - he doesn't give a - anyone says about him, especially people like yourself. He'll do or say whatever he wants and he's not going anywhere anytime soon so you had better get used to the fact that he's here to stay.

No one ever said he cared about what we thought. Hell, fans complain about athletes all the time, does anyone give a shit? Of course not. That doesn't mean we can't voice our opinions. If a guy is getting paid this kind of scratch to play a dumb game in the public eye, then being scrutinized comes with the territory.

Warrior, it doesn't matter if Avery can outplay us all, the fact is, he probably could dange thru half the board all at once, but that doesn't mean we can't call him out for what he is: an idiot. And yes, $450,000 is a lot of money, but like DarkStar said, you would be surprised with how much money you can make by working a REAL job. I have family members and bosses that make more than Sean Avery, and they are definitely not pro athletes. Hell, Scott Boras probably makes like $20,000,000 per year, but that's because he sold his soul to the devil...

[J-Shera 0]

Avery's a douche, simple as that. I thought he was when he was one my favorite team too(Wings)

[DarkStar50 679]

As for MSHers not being in the Show, well I don't need to be in the NHL to have an opinion. As for the $$, you might be surprised what people can earn when they work for a living. Besides, he is one phone call away from a bus ride to Palookaville. And then he can kiss that 450K bye-bye.

He is way too good of a player to not be playing in the NHL. He's not being sent down to manchester anytime soon.

"a bus ride to Palookaville" means the end of his career by somebody on another team who decides to do it. Everybody meets their match someday somewhere if they continue to do what he does.

[msander 0]

Fine, he should fight an enforcer and get his butt kicked.  Maybe he'll learn something.  I'm guessing he's way too stupid to learn anything though.

Yeah, kinda like that Bertuzzi guy....

I understand that you're trying to take a dig at me, but that's the best you could come up with? I don't even quite understand how the Bertuzzi situation is related to this at all. If anything, all you're doing is proving my point right. That entire awful situation would have been avoided if Bertuzzi got to have a go with Moore, instead it deteriorated into a terrible incident. So I guess in a roundabout way you're saying you agree with me and Avery should just go ahead and get his ass whooped a few times?

What I'm alluding to is the fact that a member of "your team" managed to perform one of the most vicious acts in the history of the game, and no matter what Avery says or does on and off this ice, it will take a hell of a feat to be as infamous as that piece of shit (Bertuzzi).

As for his future, I think he should continue his strong defensive play against the opposing team's top lines. And if that means he has to "turtle" (and I use that term loosely, based on the Hordichuk incident where he was jumped from behind) and draw five minute major power play opportunities, giving the Kings a chance to win, so be it.

Get it through your head - he doesn't give a - anyone says about him, especially people like yourself. He'll do or say whatever he wants and he's not going anywhere anytime soon so you had better get used to the fact that he's here to stay.

Yes, a player on my favorite team did do a very awful thing. I never said he didn't, I'd never try to defend it. There is a big difference between these two men, however, and it is why I am still glad to have Todd Bertuzzi playing in Vancouver but will never support Sean Avery anywhere. Bertuzzi made a mistake on the ice. It was tragic, but it was a mistake, and he has apologized for it far more than he has needed to and I believe been extremely sincere. If you watch his actions both on and off ice I think it's fairly obvious he's remorseful. Sean Avery makes mistake after mistake off of the ice, and never apologizes for any of them. Bertuzzi screwed up on ice, apologized, and I would think that after this much time people would be willing to move on. I'd hate to think what society would be like if we publicly crucified and villified everyone who was in this situation. Avery screws up (as in present tense) constantly off ice. He is a pathetic human being who certainly doesn't deserve the great things he has in life. For that reason, I won't be shedding any tears if and when he finally gets knocked out of the game.

[Fletch 219]

Sean Avery makes mistake after mistake off of the ice, and never apologizes for any of them.

Hmmm.....<_<

"I certainly did not want to offend anyone with my comments earlier," he said. "I am an emotional guy who sometimes says things that shouldn't be said. I apologize if I offended anyone."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=afp-...v=afp&type=lgns

A little bit of research goes a long way...

[Fletch 219]

I am pretty surprised no player has punched his face in yet. I guess they just take him as a complete joke and don't care anymore.

Yeah, 14 points in 25 games....on pace for a 45 point season as a third line defensive player. What a joke!

And apparently Mark Bell cares. He had to be restrained by the linesman at the end of last nights' Kings-Hawks game because he was still fuming over getting hit by Avery in the first period. Also, Vandemeer, Lapointe and Aucoin must care. They all received 10 minute misconducts at the end of the game for jawing at Avery.

See? People do care about Sean Avery....lol.

[DarkStar50 679]

I am pretty surprised no player has punched his face in yet.  I guess they just take him as a complete joke and don't care anymore.

Yeah, 14 points in 25 games....on pace for a 45 point season as a third line defensive player. What a joke!

And apparently Mark Bell cares. He had to be restrained by the linesman at the end of last nights' Kings-Hawks game because he was still fuming over getting hit by Avery in the first period. Also, Vandemeer, Lapointe and Aucoin must care. They all received 10 minute misconducts at the end of the game for jawing at Avery.

See? People do care about Sean Avery....lol.

And when will Sean Avery answer the bell?

[Fletch 219]

And when will Sean Avery answer the bell?

As soon as people stop taking liberties with him that draw power plays for the Kings. At this point, there's no reason to drop the gloves when the game is on the line, and the Kings have been in every game this year except for the 5-1 loss to Detroit on Monday. And in that game, the only one to go after him was Shanahan (elbow) and that's when Gleason stepped in.

[Eazy_b97 1]

Did Avery go out and try to fight Bell last night? It could have been a smart more, he definately could have given his team a PP late in the game. Bell was going nuts to get him, the highlights definately suggested he could've goated him.

[A_Steeves12 0]

from the highlights i saw it looked like Avery greased Bell from behind and bell wanted to get at him.

[Fletch 219]

from the highlights i saw it looked like Avery greased Bell from behind and bell wanted to get at him.

Avery checked him earlier in the game, which resulted in a Hawks PP (and goal) and Bell was looking to get back at him in the waning moments of the game. Bell took himself out of the play while Avery was trying to stay in the play and Pavol Demitra scored as all of this was happening.

[warrior37 0]

theo, how do you know he is regarded as joke off the ice by the majority of the hockey community?

[warrior37 0]

i dont support what he says off the ice, but until other nhl players, his teammates, coaches, etc come public and say avery needs to stop then i dont really have a problem with it

when avery played for MC in the UHL his pay (among with cheli, hatcher, and if drapes got any) went to charity, thats a lot more than i can say for other players in the NHL

[PBRyan 0]

I would have no problem with this guy if he went out, played a clean, or atleast cleaner, game and tried to get under the skin of the other team. However, in his last three games, I have really lost any respect I had left for him. He should have been called for boarding on Kariya when he chacked him from behind last week (I think Kariya was lucky not to have went head first into the boards on that hit) and made another douche bag check on Bell last night. He doesn't back up his own hits, something he gets on others for, tries to take out (injure) the others teams top players with no regard for any consequences.

As much as I hate to draw comparisons to the Bertuzzi incident, playing like Avery does pave the way for these bad incidents. Luckily for Avery players still have the Bertuzzi incident in their minds and no one has completely lost it on this guy. I would assume he is the most unliked player in the Western conference, on the ice at least, and with his bonehead comments off the ice I am pretty positive he is not changing his image.

[Fletch 219]

Being a member of many NHL boards, it is obvious that is the opinion of more then 50% of the people who voice in.

Bwahahahahaha.......

Thank you for naming your credible "sources"...a bunch of Leafs, Rangers and Habs fanboys. :lol: