Svens suffering

[Project_2501 0]

I'd wait for the '06 lines, new Synergys will be out, as will new Bauer skates.

However, if they fit, and they are top of the line right now, get them.

[hurricane 0]

Hi guys,

prolly some guys will know this ordeal but for those who dont, i will explain it.

I got wide feet and i tested several skates, i bought some online and some in hockeystores.

The last (2) pair(s) i purchased was a pair of 692 Tacks, first in 7E, but then they felt too short, so i sold them and got them in 7.5E..

I tried them on in a store, they were good, but when im on the ice, they are still good for about 25 mins but then my toes are getting numb and i cant feel them anymore.

When i had the 7E pair, i thought it would be because of the length, but now it seems like it was the length and width.

I got them punched out but it didnt help much...

Im planning to get a new pair of skates, even tho im VERY fed up with this sh*t,  i guess people with skate problems will know this situation and how annoying it can be.

I tested Bauer Vapor XX in EE and they were also too small.

Can you tell me some skates which are wider than x92 Tacks in E-Width ?

I've heard that the Flexlite V-12's are very wide, but thats just what ive heard and im not sure.

Dont care about the price, just list every wide skate, i can choose later on anyways.

Thanks,

i hope i can get a serious treatment and help, this isnt funny anymore :(

Sven

I have the same problem, after years of not being on the ice my feet got wider. I could'nt even wear my old bauer comp 5000 anymore. purchased vaporXX 2E and had the same problem. Was told by at least a dozen people that vapors are for a narrow foot(After I bought them) I now have the Bauer 8090's--was told they are made for a wide foot. Have about 10 hours on them and have had no problems, Very comfortable. But I was told if you are having that much problems with skates you should have them custom made (100 bucks more). As much as I like my 8090's I still think I also have an arch problem and bauer are for a mid to high arch. mine is low so all skates still bother my arch. I think next year the 8090's are going to become the one90's and i'll get them custom.

[Sven 1]

Well i understand your problem for sure and getting custom is definitely worth every cent, but its unfortunately just not possible for germans... Otherwise i'd have it before.

But at the moment im quite happy to know that there are skates which fit my feet, i just cant make a decision.

I have to know more about those skates and some impressions and pro/con's would be rad.

[whbd18 0]

Id go Synergy.The toebox is nice and roomy.

[hurricane 0]

Well i understand your problem for sure and getting custom is definitely worth every cent, but its unfortunately just not possible for germans... Otherwise i'd have it before.

But at the moment im quite happy to know that there are skates which fit my feet, i just cant make a decision.

I have to know more about those skates and some impressions and pro/con's would be rad.

Go to bauer.com and you can read the specs of these skates. I was told that this skate is the classic bauer supreme fit. It is a very stiff skate with tuuk 2 blade. It has a stainless blade with no holes, lighter than the vapor xx and little heavier than the vapor xxx. bauer rep told me it was as stiff as the 7000 skates. The most dependable in the bauer line, should last a couple years at 2x a week.

[Sven 1]

Im going to start posting my Pros and Cons about these skates, maybe you can add or challenge them.

Some might repeat and some might need some explanations

8090 Pros:

- The look

- Supreme Series is pretty 'old' and they are no errors/bugs and people

trust it

- Very nice, wide fit

- Can be molded and maybe get a bit more perfect for your feet

8090 Cons:

- Seems bulky

- Stiff (i dont know it by myself, even if i wore them in the store)

- Lightspeed Holder, ive heard that the steel is pretty weak

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Synergy 1300c Pros:

- The fit is pretty nice, especially the toebox was nice

- Huge protection (saw someone on the ice with retail 1300s taking a HUGE slapper from 2 meters and not feeling ANYTHING

- Lightweight

- They wont break down like conventional skates

- Since there are no "seam lines", it'll be kinda hard to get blisters, cause its all in one-piece

- The look is nice, but ....

Synergy 1300c Cons:

- ... its kinda too futuristic..

- Cant be baked, either they fit or they dont

- I read that the upper edge of the boot sometimes digs into players legs, dont know if that happens much.

[Ogie Oglethorpe 14]

Im going to start posting my Pros and Cons about these skates, maybe you can add or challenge them.

Some might repeat and some might need some explanations

8090 Pros:

- The look

- Supreme Series is pretty 'old' and they are no errors/bugs and people

trust it

- Very nice, wide fit

- Can be molded and maybe get a bit more perfect for your feet

8090 Cons:

- Seems bulky

- Stiff (i dont know it by myself, even if i wore them in the store)

- Lightspeed Holder, ive heard that the steel is pretty weak

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Synergy 1300c Pros:

- The fit is pretty nice, especially the toebox was nice

- Huge protection (saw someone on the ice with retail 1300s taking a HUGE slapper from 2 meters and not feeling ANYTHING

- Lightweight

- They wont break down like conventional skates

- Since there are no "seam lines", it'll be kinda hard to get blisters, cause its all in one-piece

- The look is nice, but ....

Synergy 1300c Cons:

- ... its kinda too futuristic..

- Cant be baked, either they fit or they dont

- I read that the upper edge of the boot sometimes digs into players legs, dont know if that happens much.

8090's are supposed to be lighter than the XX and last tons, tons longer. The 8090 is a solid, reliable skate.

Some people have complained about the 1300c's fit in the ankle area. I tried a pair on and also found that the upper ankle portion was way too tight/narrow. There's a "work around" for this, but...

I wouldn't have thought of the 8090 as bulky. Perhaps, however, it is too stiff? There is such a thing, despite common belief that there's not.

I sent you a PM with some various thoughts and musings on my continued hunt. But, ultimately, you can probably get the 8090 cheaper than the 1300c these days (I know you're in Germany, but HockeyGiant is selling them for $229 us these days, compare that to the 1300c which is probably going for $500 on average). The 8090 will likely last a long time, and who knows with the 1300c.

Another skate type to try is the CCM. I'd recommend either the Vector Pro, Vector Zero G series (if you like the T-Blades), or CCM Pro Tack.

[greener4 0]

Once the skates are molded to your feet, the skates tend to open up alittle bit.

[greener4 0]

Synergy 1300 are all graphite and a player on my team had them and the toe broke and the fibers were poking into his feet.

[Rustybender 0]

Just want to add that carbon fiber will weaken over time. Synergy's will break down like conventional skates. (faster or slower I can't say, but they will break down over time.)

I have 8090's and would never think them bulky. They are the slimest skates I have ever worn. Yet amazingly, their protection is awesome. Puck hits don't faze me at all.

Lightspeed steel had problems with weakness early on. (I broke a blade myself.) I hvae read here that the Lightspeed 2 steel is much better. If they skates at your shop have lightspeed holders, you can use lightspeed 2 steel in them.

[DarkStar50 679]

Sven,

If the 8090 felt comfortable after 30 minutes in the shop, its time to bake those Bauers! I would choose the 8090 for all the pros listed, especially the width issue. An 8090 D width out of the box is actually an E width skate. I was at the NBH St. Jerome skate factory in June. In the Custom Boot Skate Department we were given spec sheets for 8090, XXX, and FlexLite 12. The 8090 D is actually an E. They wanted the dealers to be aware of this if they ever custom ordered an 8090 boot from retail fitting that a true 8090 Custom Boot D would fit narrower than a stock D. So that solves your ? about the width on an 8090. The quality of the boot speaks for itself, as mentioned by guys totally satisfied with the skate. The LS2 steel is stronger than the originals. We are seeing less breakage as compared to one year ago. The steel on any holder can crack, regardless of brand. Make sure the fit is right and worry about after market blade/holder repairs later.

As for the Synergy, I think some brands are not for some skaters. Easton is always changing the hardware for their steel in their holders. That is one potential nightmare to avoid. About the boot, the shape you feel is the shape you get. No baking the boys so they have to fit extremely well out of the box. I have skated in top end Easton skates, but went right back to Bauer. They just fit my feet right.

I hope this info helps. The season is skating away!!

Peter

[Sven 1]

I just came back from a game today (with my aweful Tacks..) and i was curios to know what you guys posted here.

Well DarkStar, thanks for your input, great to read some longer texts.

I think i'll go with thr 8090 since theyre heatmoldable and prolly a bit wider than the Eastons.

Besides that, they look better.

When i said they were bulky, that was just a wrong word/impression. They were fine, just a bit big, maybe it seemed so cause the Eastons were kinda 'flat' because of the carbon stuff.

So, i will get them from Hockeygiant then, could someone do me a favor and send them to me ? They dont ship outside of North America :(

I would send you the money for the skates ($229), money for shipping them to me (~$30) and some cash for the person who does this favor to me !

Just PM me.. that would be sooo nice, i hope someone has a big heart in the pre-time of christmas ^_^

Cheers,

Sven

[nspeen 0]

An 8090 D width out of the box is actually an E width skate.

this confuses me. i have somewhat wide feet and i always had to get EE's in bauer skates. then i tried on tacks in a D width and they felt good but the 8090 in a D or E as you say is too narrow for me. i wish hockeygiant had some dang EE's in the 8090 for me to try on

[DarkStar50 679]

Do you have flat feet or a high arch? Fred Flintstone feet = CCM skates! Yabba dabba do!

[Sven 1]

An 8090 D width out of the box is actually an E width skate.

this confuses me. i have somewhat wide feet and i always had to get EE's in bauer skates. then i tried on tacks in a D width and they felt good but the 8090 in a D or E as you say is too narrow for me. i wish hockeygiant had some dang EE's in the 8090 for me to try on

8090 in EE are really wide. But thats just what some guys need/want.

[DarkStar50 679]

Bauer has very few 8090 in stock.

[Edge 0]

I don't know if you can hold off, but the Easton 1500 skate that is coming out in 06 will be heat moldable and may fix one of the "cons" of the 1300 skate. Also, i don't know how the one90 skate would work out for you, but that will be coming out pretty soon also.

IF you can't wait, both of the skates you mentioned are great skates, I've tried the 1300s and owned the 8090s. The 8090 skate is probably the most underrated skate out there, and it's always a good choice. Mine held up for a long time and i grew out of them before they wore out. It's almost as lightweight as the XXX skate with most of the features, and not to mention how cheap they are going for now too. As for the 1300s, if you didn't have the ankle pain like a lot of people did, then I think you'll like the skate. I used both the OLD 04' versions and then the 1300s. The 04s gave me pretty bad ankle rub, but the 1300s seem to have fixed that for me. The toe box on the 1300 seems bigger to me, but I've also never tried the 8090 in a EE width. The 1300 has a really unique stride because it is so responsive, so it's going to take some getting used to on the ice.

Hope that helps you a bit on both the skates, good luck!

[Sven 1]

I don't know if you can hold off, but the Easton 1500 skate that is coming out in 06 will be heat moldable and may fix one of the "cons" of the 1300 skate. Also, i don't know how the one90 skate would work out for you, but that will be coming out pretty soon also.

They'll be too expensive then.

As for the 1300s, if you didn't have the ankle pain like a lot of people did, then I think you'll like the skate.

I used both the OLD 04' versions and then the 1300s. The 04s gave me pretty bad ankle rub, but the 1300s seem to have fixed that for me.

The 1300 has a really unique stride because it is so responsive, so it's going to take some getting used to on the ice.

Hope that helps you a bit on both the skates, good luck!

I hate to get used to things and change habits..

Thanks.

[Chadd 916]

The 8090 is about the only Bauer skate that I have the confidence to suggest to people. It's a great skate and sounds like it should work pretty well for you.

[Sven 1]

So, i will get them from Hockeygiant then, could someone do me a favor and send them to me ? They dont ship outside of North America :(

I would send you the money for the skates ($229), money for shipping them to me (~$30) and some cash for the person who does this favor to me !

Just PM me.. that would be sooo nice, i hope someone has a big heart in the pre-time of christmas ^_^

Cheers,

Sven

*cough* ;)

[Ogie Oglethorpe 14]

Well, Sven, you could still buy/pay for them and then ship them to whomever is going to ship them to you. Then you just owe that person $$ to cover shipping.

I'll check out those rates for you Wednesday at the office (presuming we can ship them).