Making The Cut/Le Repechage

[D3nZ 0]

There will be a new reality show for those who haven't heard. It will be on CBC and RDS in Canada. There will be 8 camps all across Canada and some selectees will take part of 2 groups, one coached by Mike Keenan and the other by Scotty Bowman. At the end 6 will be chosen and one lucky member will take part of a NHL hockey camp (between the 6 canadian NHL teams), the team will then decide what to do with that player, send him to the ECHL, the AHL or maybe the NHL.

To take part of the camp there is a 55$ CDN charge and you have to be born before the december 31st 1984.

For informations look on www.makingthecut.ca ou en francais www.lerepechagebell.ca.

[Dan_The_Man_16 0]

Wow, that is unbelieveably stupid, what if all the players suck? Where are they going to send them then?

[Guest phillyfan]

Thats actually one of the better reality TV shows I've heard of. Only via Satellite in the states?

[Gongshow11 1]

Wow, that is unbelieveably stupid, what if all the players suck? Where are they going to send them then?

probably to the ECHL haha

sux that you have to be bron before december 31st 1984, otherwise i would sign up

[Dan_The_Man_16 0]

Ya I was thinking the same thing, just for fun. I was on the site and aslong as you aren't undercontract you can sign up, so any unrestricted NHL players, techinclly. could sign up. Thats nuts. My friends dad will probably go to that though. He got invited to the Oilers training camp about 10 years ago but his wife wouldn't let him go, now hes divorced. And hes still only 35. It would be so cool if he made it.

[Dan_The_Man_16 0]

Ya, this guy is AMAZING. He used to run my team's practices, best practices ever. We had a radar at this one banquet, this guy was shooting 85 MPH slapshots. He's pretty small though, only 5'11 but skinny, but he can really skate, he could embrass most of the jr. a players in our area with the puck too. Just awesome, and having known him since I was 7 (8 years) he hasen't seem to have lost anything.

[Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3]

Wow, that is unbelieveably stupid, what if all the players suck? Where are they going to send them then?

NHL level is not that amazing. It's sure in Canada we can find someone who can play pro level. I'm 100% sure. Too bad i'm one year to young. Hope next year they will make another.

[Dan_The_Man_16 0]

NHL level isn't amazing? um....so you are saying you don't have to be "that great" to play in the NHL. Right, whatever you say .

[flaming_june 2]

but it is pretty cool

i would go just for the big league practice

[Dan_The_Man_16 0]

I seriously thought most hockey players would respect the skill it takes to play at the NHL level. There are people who didn't need to think fast becuase they could see what was going to happen (ie. Gretz.) then there are people with unbelievable reaction speed (ie. every goalie). Players like Kovy and Almo can create stellar dekes that most people would think of in a split second, at top speed, and top speed at the NHL level is pretty damn fast. I would say 99% of players can't do this, and won't be able to because it's just a God given talent, there will alwyas be workers, like Fitzy and Premeau, but even they can react quickly, and see passes/playes out of things most players would see as a "no play". Alot of players have the skills, but not the smarts to play in the NHL, and smarts is what makes the difference.

[D3nZ 0]

I might go to the Montreal (5 hours away from where I live) tryouts, I have nothing to lose, only about 100$ to get a once in a lifetime chance, my brother lives in Montreal so no hotel fares, only the gaz and the price to get in. There will be alot of scouts there and if they see some potential for the age group you are in you might still get a chance. From my personal experience I've lost about 120 lbs since the last time I played real hockey and I was probably the perfect picture of the worst kind of player. Since I have lost all that weight my game has improved alot. On the subscription form there are also some space reserved to talk about your past hockey experiences and life experiences so they might take that in consideration too. The only thing that conserns me is that I haven't been on the ice for about 2 months but for the past 3 months I've been working out like crazy to get those muscles going and stay in shape but it would be nice for people to go there and when they get back tell us about their experience and how it went.

[Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3]

I seriously thought most hockey players would respect the skill it takes to play at the NHL level. There are people who didn't need to think fast becuase they could see what was going to happen (ie. Gretz.) then there are people with unbelievable reaction speed (ie. every goalie). Players like Kovy and Almo can create stellar dekes that most people would think of in a split second, at top speed, and top speed at the NHL level is pretty damn fast. I would say 99% of players can't do this, and won't be able to because it's just a God given talent, there will alwyas be workers, like Fitzy and Premeau, but even they can react quickly, and see passes/playes out of things most players would see as a "no play". Alot of players have the skills, but not the smarts to play in the NHL, and smarts is what makes the difference.

I respect what you've said. But you are talking of premier player in the league. It will be hard to find unbeleivable talent but I think they can find a 3th or 4th line player. Guys like Devries or Quintal (as example) that I've seen couple time have not good skills with the puck. I've seen many amateur guys with more skills than them.

[Gongshow11 1]

I seriously thought most hockey players would respect the skill it takes to play at the NHL level. There are people who didn't need to think fast becuase they could see what was going to happen (ie. Gretz.) then there are people with unbelievable reaction speed (ie. every goalie). Players like Kovy and Almo can create stellar dekes that most people would think of in a split second, at top speed, and top speed at the NHL level is pretty damn fast. I would say 99% of players can't do this, and won't be able to because it's just a God given talent, there will alwyas be workers, like Fitzy and Premeau, but even they can react quickly, and see passes/playes out of things most players would see as a "no play". Alot of players have the skills, but not the smarts to play in the NHL, and smarts is what makes the difference.

I respect what you've said. But you are talking of premier player in the league. It will be hard to find unbeleivable talent but I think they can find a 3th or 4th line player. Guys like Devries or Quintal (as example) that I've seen couple time have not good skills with the puck. I've seen many amateur guys with more skills than them.

De Vries is one of the most underrated NHL defensemen. he is amazing

[Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3]

offensive skills for me are : stickhandling - hockey sense - skating(balance, agility, pure speed...) - shooting (forehand, backhand, slapshot, wrister...)

Are everyone agree with me?

[Gongshow11 1]

so based on your analogy which isn't completely wrong, Ribiero doesn't have a lot of offensive skill since he can't skate, has no speed, and no balance.

same thing for ryder, he can't skate but what a shot

if i misread your post and said each player can have a different skill then i agree with you...making htem good, but if every goal scorer has all of these (if thats what you were trying to say), then you are wrong

[Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3]

so based on your analogy which isn't completely wrong, Ribiero doesn't have a lot of offensive skill since he can't skate, has no speed, and no balance.

same thing for ryder, he can't skate but what a shot

if i misread your post and said each player can have a different skill then i agree with you...making htem good, but if every goal scorer has all of these (if thats what you were trying to say), then you are wrong

I completely agree with your point.

[chippa13 1844]

There are people who didn't need to think fast becuase they could see what was going to happen (ie. Gretz.) then there are people with unbelievable reaction speed (ie. every goalie).

On the contrary, Gretzky had to think very fast because he would analyze a situation and then be thinking ahead to what was going to happen.

[Eazy_b97 1]

I respect what you've said. But you are talking of premier player in the league. It will be hard to find unbeleivable talent but I think they can find a 3th or 4th line player. Guys like Devries or Quintal (as example) that I've seen couple time have not good skills with the puck. I've seen many amateur guys with more skills than them.

I've talked to a few ex-NHLers and they all agree the difference between the fourth line guys on most NHL teams and the players in the NHL is the ability to think the game.

[Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3]

But if that was even the case, scouts would have them by now. The change of pace has is unbelievable.

Theo, what about Martin St-Louis, he has never been scout for the NHL, for the LHJMQ and even for the Midget AAA and he's the best player in the NHL this year. So what you mean is not true. I know a lot of players who has never been drafted and that are better than some NHL players.

[kosydar 0]

But if that was even the case, scouts would have them by now.  The change of pace has is unbelievable.

Theo, what about Martin St-Louis, he has never been scout for the NHL, for the LHJMQ and even for the Midget AAA and he's the best player in the NHL this year. So what you mean is not true. I know a lot of players who has never been drafted and that are better than some NHL players.

You know that you have absolutely no credibility on here, right? NHL scouts aren't pefect, obviously. There is no way that they can accurately predict how good someone will be, but it seems like they do a pretty damn good job. St. Louis is a fluke.

[Kyle_M 0]

Kovy, I believe what Theo is trying say is that just because they are better than some NHL players does not mean they would react the same as the NHL players. The scouts can, in most cases, see that. For example, they may try to skate through everyone like they are used to at the amateur level but then they get to the NHL and find they cannot do that anymore. The game at the NHL level is very different than amateur level games.

[D3nZ 0]

Some have the will, some don't. Other's have everything to themselves others don't. I sure know that if I would have had a good environment and parents who have money to help me go to camps and gyms I would probably have went a bit further in my hockey career cause I am really a hockey freak, I love everything about hockey. Some have the money to persue their dream, some don't, some have the passion, some don't. That show must not only base their picks by the talent but by the will of performing and beeing beter each time you get on the ice. I know that if I would have the right instruments, trainers and the passion that I have for the game, I could have gone far. I want to go there not for a last resort point of view, but for a chance that was never given.

[Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3]

But if that was even the case, scouts would have them by now.  The change of pace has is unbelievable.

Theo, what about Martin St-Louis, he has never been scout for the NHL, for the LHJMQ and even for the Midget AAA and he's the best player in the NHL this year. So what you mean is not true. I know a lot of players who has never been drafted and that are better than some NHL players.

You know that you have absolutely no credibility on here, right? NHL scouts aren't pefect, obviously. There is no way that they can accurately predict how good someone will be, but it seems like they do a pretty damn good job. St. Louis is a fluke.

If they forgot St-Louis, why they will not forget any other player. Yeah, their is amazing talent in the NHL, but NHL is not that extremly good. I play with NHL guys on summer time and they are not that good. As example, Yanic Perrault, I'm faster than him and I have more puck skills than him. The only area he's better than me is in the faceoff circle and he has an amazing scoring touch. And what about Dan Corso, faster than light but he got hands of stone and a poor hockey sense. I can say a lot of those but I will stop there for the moment.

[kosydar 0]

You should just stop there, period. I doubt anyone believes you. If the NHL isn't "extremely good", then why aren't you in it?

[Fire0nIce228 1]

I second Kosydars comments.