2004 NHL attendance leaders

[Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3]

Here is the link : http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/attendance?year=2004

What do you think?

[AllCanadian 2]

Some of those stats are really skewed. You can't trust them 100%. Most of the time the amount that fill the seats are much less then the recorded attendence. Get my drift?

I would imagine those figures are paid attendance though I doubt it's below some teams to enhance their figures. LOL go Canucks 101%

[Chadd 916]

I love to point out things like Minnesota having one of the two or three lowest payrolls in the league, yet they are at 102% of capacity for home games. Someone's making a lot of money.

[steve66 45]

The building owners might not be the same as the team owners...

[Chadd 916]

The building owners might not be the same as the team owners...

Teams get the ticket money and then pay rent, even when the team owns the arena it works that way. They do that in order to keep the rental income separate from the team funds.

That's one of the major difference in the NHL and NHLPA positions in the CBA negotiations. The NHLPA thinks that if a team owns an arena that every penny they make from the arena should be considered team income.

[MDE3 0]

Just curious on how the percentages are over 100. I assume these organization have some sort of remarketing agreement for reselling season tickets or boxes. so then I assume they are counting the sales twice. If the actual capacities are the legal limits given to the building..for fire purposes...averaging an additional 3% over rated capacity(if those are actual bodies not just ticket sales) should flag some attention.

Or do they do like the airlines and simply overbook..figuring so many no shows?

[Chadd 916]

Seating capacity is simply the number of seats in the building. You can put extra people in suites and by having "standing room" tickets as well.

[Elmo_13 0]

JW whos rink can hold the most people?

Edit-sorry that was stupid didnt check the article.

[D3nZ 0]

It has been reported before that the Stars bought the remaining tickets so that they would have a sell out crowd.

[Chadd 916]

It has been reported before that the Stars bought the remaining tickets so that they would have a sell out crowd.

A team can't buy their own tickets to have a sellout, that makes no sense. Some owners have had other firms they own buy some of the tickets or donated them to charity. There's no benefit to just declaring a game a sellout.

[D3nZ 0]

I know, but they just wanted to keep the streak running, just look at the Xpos right now, they have about 100 people in the stand and they sometimes announce that there is 10 000 in the stands. RDS talked about it last time the Habs played the Stars, you could see alot of empty seats in the stands but they still told that it was a full sellout, it's dumb if you ask me, they sometimes give tickets to people sitting further in the stands to get closser to the action (that hapenned to me once) cause even if it's a sell out in an arena, there could be at least 3000 people missing in another arena for a sell out.

[Chadd 916]

The tickets must be sold for it to be a sellout. Some teams have programs where season ticket holders turn in tickets for the team to try and resell, they are still considered sold even if they can't find a second buyer. Lots of the tickets any more are corperate purchases and people just don't bother showing up. Since they don't pay for the tickets out of their pocket, they don't care if they get used.

[Flo Hockey 7 0]

The Wild do sell out every game and every game is packed even if they're playing Columbus or a lower team. It's easy to get tickets outside becasue they can't scalp here in Minny and the price is usually driven down because of that.

[GekigangarIII 0]

The Wild do sell out every game and every game is packed even if they're playing Columbus or a lower team.

Columbus packs their arena despite never having had a winning season... I can't explain it either, other than the fans here really like the game. One or two seasons I can see but the novelty should be wearing thin after 4 straight... but they still manage to sell tickets.

of course doing things like giving you an autographed Nash or Zherdev helmet with the cost of a PSL doesn't hurt ;)

[Chadd 916]

Geki, other than OSU aren't they the only game in town? I honestly think that helps them.

[dietzie27 0]

columbus crew, MLS

[Chadd 916]

columbus crew, MLS

I'm pretty sure their season doesn't doesn't run October through April, though there may be some overlap.

[GekigangarIII 0]

Geki, other than OSU aren't they the only game in town? I honestly think that helps them.

Pretty much, but the fans that come to these games are hockey fans. Hockey isn't (unfortunately) a sport that just "draws" people in that aren't already a fan of the game.

Also, most unfortunately (even though I'm an alum), OSU football is and will always be Columbus' bread and butter. They make more money from the buckeyes than ALOT of nfl/nba/mlb teams... it's unreal.

[Smith 0]

Don't forget about the clipers :lol:

[Chadd 916]

If you are a sports fan, then energy and excitement of a live hockey game is pretty enticing. I've seen my fair share of converts.