hudsonhockey22 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 like the title says ... there are 2 stickers on the back, which one has to be there under USA hockey rules (high school) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whbd18 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 Both should be, but Ive never seen anyone have them on during a game so I dont think it matters much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greech 4 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 Playing HS, you won't have any problems with them being off. Even in the tournament they didn't give anyone any problems about them.Hudson, you don't happen to be from MA, do you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 HECC sticker is required in the US, CSA is required in Canada. I'm sure someone will brag that they don't have theirs and haven't had a problem, but those are the requirements in the rule books. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joshy207 15 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 Better to "look stupid" with your stickers on, than to get tossed from a game for not having them... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EBondo 233 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 Exactly. That's why I still have mine on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QandA 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 It's not a big deal here at all, if it's a Bauer 5000, referee's will know it's certified, with or without the stickers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hudsonhockey22 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 no, i am from ohio ... thanks chadd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stickfixchaska 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 The stickers are there for a reason. Just leave them on. If a visiting coach wants to challenge a players equipment, the player could potentially miss time due to not having "certified equipment". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mclaggan29 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 over here in scotland we dont need any stuckers and iv never heard of anyone being chuked out for removing them :S Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 It's not a big deal here at all, if it's a Bauer 5000, referee's will know it's certified, with or without the stickers. If the stickers are removed it is considered modified equipment and no longer certified. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skatedoctor 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 over here in scotland we dont need any stuckers and iv never heard of anyone being chuked out for removing them :S As a registered ref in the UK, all stickers must be in place, its not something we purposely look for, but if requested we can call it.Refs in scotland are a little bit more 'laid back' than in England, but they should still call it if need be!What team you play for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sogaduch 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 If you dont want the sticks on the outside of the helmet you could put them on the inside of the helmet under the foam or something. I know some guys do that for mens league but thing is how would you get the stickers cleanly off the back without ripping the sticker itself off. So Id just leave them on man, makes no sense to take a chance because LHS cant get those stickers from the suppliers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chk hrd 164 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 If you dont want the sticks on the outside of the helmet you could put them on the inside of the helmet under the foam or something. I know some guys do that for mens league but thing is how would you get the stickers cleanly off the back without ripping the sticker itself off. So Id just leave them on man, makes no sense to take a chance because LHS cant get those stickers from the suppliers That won't work. Once you take the sticker off the sticker is considered invalid. How do they know the sticker on the inside isn't from a different helmet. LHS cannot get certification stickers to apply to helmets, they must be done at the factory for legal reasons. The only way a LHS would be able to apply a certification sticker is if the manufacturer actually certifies them to apply it which I doubt they do.Mens leagues are a whole lot different and leniant than youth leagues. Typically you don't have to have a certified helmet in a mens league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QandA 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 Alrite, an opposing team had a player on it where his brother had died of cancer. They had those "ribbon" stickers on the back of their helmets where the number usually goes. Obviously they we'rent "helmet stickers," but hey, we could challenge it and have every single player receive a penalty and than all have to find new helmets. If theirs no stickers, so what, we all know what's certified and what's not, and unless the ref's in a bad mood, I don't what's wrong without having them on. Their's a line we need to draw, theirs times where you can challenge calls, and times you just don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chk hrd 164 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 It's called common sense. Yes all 5000's are certified, but what about the guys who want to be special and take a white helmet and a black helmet and mix them together so they have a black/white helmet. That helmet is not certified because the certification is for an assembled helmet bought from the manufacturer. Technically any additional stickers or paint will void a certification and you can bet your ass that if you got a head injury and took a manufacturer to court, the first thing they will look at is did you alter the helmet in any way shape or form from it's original state.That said, I have never seen a ref disallow the use of a helmet because of a SMALL sticker, especially one for a cause. Last season we had a parent die during a hockey trip. The team still wanted to play so we took black tape and put one stripe down the kids red helmets in his honor. No one ever said a word about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hudsonhockey22 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 i wanted to put those american flag stickers in one of their places, in honor of our country, but dont want to put it where the number is ... thats is why i was wondering if i could take one of them off (i have a 5000 by the way) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sogaduch 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 i wanted to put those american flag stickers in one of their places, in honor of our country, but dont want to put it where the number is ... thats is why i was wondering if i could take one of them off (i have a 5000 by the way) well since your american you could cover the CSA sticker but if you come to canada for a tourney you may be abit screwed because it doesnt have the canadian certification sticker on it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mclaggan29 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 i play for the dundee stars under 14's movin up to 16's this year tho where abouts do u ref skatedoctor ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sogaduch 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 If you dont want the sticks on the outside of the helmet you could put them on the inside of the helmet under the foam or something. I know some guys do that for mens league but thing is how would you get the stickers cleanly off the back without ripping the sticker itself off. So Id just leave them on man, makes no sense to take a chance because LHS cant get those stickers from the suppliers That won't work. Once you take the sticker off the sticker is considered invalid. How do they know the sticker on the inside isn't from a different helmet. LHS cannot get certification stickers to apply to helmets, they must be done at the factory for legal reasons. The only way a LHS would be able to apply a certification sticker is if the manufacturer actually certifies them to apply it which I doubt they do.Mens leagues are a whole lot different and leniant than youth leagues. Typically you don't have to have a certified helmet in a mens league. yeah I know its invalid but just be an idea for the crazys who dont want the stickers on there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted July 8, 2006 Alrite, an opposing team had a player on it where his brother had died of cancer. They had those "ribbon" stickers on the back of their helmets where the number usually goes. Obviously they we'rent "helmet stickers," but hey, we could challenge it and have every single player receive a penalty and than all have to find new helmets. If theirs no stickers, so what, we all know what's certified and what's not, and unless the ref's in a bad mood, I don't what's wrong without having them on. Their's a line we need to draw, theirs times where you can challenge calls, and times you just don't. decals4pros.com makes stickers that do not void helmet certification. There may be others as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QandA 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2006 Out of Curiousity, since you are a ref, how do you differ a "legit helmet sticker" with and "invalid helmet sticker." I as a ref can tell the stickers that are totally invalid, but some which aren't legit look like they are. I find it pointless to scrutinize over helmet stickers, unless they SERIOUSLY effect the helmet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted July 8, 2006 Out of Curiousity, since you are a ref, how do you differ a "legit helmet sticker" with and "invalid helmet sticker." I as a ref can tell the stickers that are totally invalid, but some which aren't legit look like they are. I find it pointless to scrutinize over helmet stickers, unless they SERIOUSLY effect the helmet. There are some that are obviously not legal, I would only bother with those. Bumper stickers or things that came out of the vending machine in the lobby are the ones I say something about.As a coach, I would have an affadavit from sports star or whoever stating that they are legal. They're happy to provide them and it's only one more piece of paper to carry. It's up to you to prove they're legal, it's not up to the ref to prove they aren't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tguidon 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2006 I have electrical tape over mine so if I ever have a problem it will peel off. Looks the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
