No more on-ice audio for NHL games

[Vapor 0]

This really does not effect hockey, since there are only about 2 or 3 games over the air per year.

[RadioGaGa 162]

This really does not effect hockey, since there are only about 2 or 3 games over the air per year.

It affects a hockey broadcast if they say they can't have ambient mics around the rink because someone may be caught swearing....think of watching a hockey game without hearng the crowd, and the boards on a big hit.

If those mics are taken away....the US has an even harder time marketing the game...those sounds are what make watching a game feel like you are AT a game.

[DarkStar50 679]

The Canadian TV broadcasts are the best for the "sound of the game." I love the way the skating sounds on ice level are amped up, the board hits are louder, and a shot off the post sounds like it dented the iron! If they take away the sounds of the game it will be a problem. It would be interesting to find out which 30 audio/video clips from which sports they requested.

[Chadd 916]

The Canadian TV broadcasts are the best for the "sound of the game." I love the way the skating sounds on ice level are amped up, the board hits are louder, and a shot off the post sounds like it dented the iron! If they take away the sounds of the game it will be a problem. It would be interesting to find out which 30 audio/video clips from which sports they requested.

Care to make a bet that someone prepared the list for them? Someone like the Parents television council? They're responsible for over 75% of all complaints to the FCC.

[RadioGaGa 162]

The Canadian TV broadcasts are the best for the "sound of the game." I love the way the skating sounds on ice level are amped up, the board hits are louder, and a shot off the post sounds like it dented the iron! If they take away the sounds of the game it will be a problem. It would be interesting to find out which 30 audio/video clips from which sports they requested.

Care to make a bet that someone prepared the list for them? Someone like the Parents television council? They're responsible for over 75% of all complaints to the FCC.

Don't make me re-post the FCC song link *L*

[Jason Harris 31]

Not saying this is "right"...but it is a fact.

America was a country founded upon the principles of Christianity, which always makes it interesting when people push the seperation of church and state, in a country founded on the church.  The founding fathers wanted the church to not interefere with the actions of the government, but not necessarily have the government turn theirs back on the beliefs of the church.  Over the years as more cultures have immigrated to this country, thus bringing more relgions/beliefs with them, this original principle has been diluted.

Not so much anymore, but the 10 commandments used to be all over in the judicial system architecture.  "God" is on many of the documents, etc, etc, etc.

That's not entirely accurate.

There's no doubt that many of the original colonists settled in America to escape religious persecution in their native countries, but the percentage who were Christians wasn't as high as most assume. Many of the Founding Fathers were Deists -- believers in a Creator of the universe, but not an active God.

This article on Deists among Founding Fathers also includes the following quote:

As for the religious beliefs of the general population in pre and post revolutionary times, it wasn't nearly as Christian as most people think. Lynn R. Buzzard, executive director of the Christian Legal Society (a national organization of Christian lawyers) has admitted that there is little proof to support the claim that the colonial population was overwhelmingly Christian. "Not only were a good many of the revolutionary leaders more deist than Christian," Buzzard wrote, "but the actual number of church members was rather small. Perhaps as few as five percent of the populace were church members in 1776" (Schools They Haven't Got a Prayer, Elgin, Illinois David C. Cook Publishing, 1982, p. 81). Historian Richard Hofstadter says that "perhaps as many as ninety percent of the Americans were unchurched in 1790" (Anti-Intellectualism in American Life, New York Alfred A. Knopf, 1974, p. 82) and goes on to say that "mid-eighteenth century America had a smaller proportion of church members than any other nation in Christendom," noting that "in 1800 [only] about one of every fifteen Americans was a church member" (p. 89). Historian James MacGregor Burns agrees with these figures, noting that "(t)here had been a `very wintry season' for religion every where in America after the Revolution" (The American Experiment Vineyard of Liberty, New York Vintage Books, 1983, p. 493). He adds that "ninety percent of the people lay outside the churches."

The Declaration of Independence mentions the "Laws of Nature and of Nature's God" and "Creator", but that seems to be avoiding choosing a particular God. The Constitution, of course, has no mention of God, although the 1st Amendment addresses the role that our government is allowed regarding religion in the public forum: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

I believe Thomas Jefferson Thomas Jefferson was the main author of the Declaration, while John Adams was the main firebrand.

In 1797, the Senate ratified what's known as the Treaty of Tripoli, which was signed into law by John Adams. The first line of Article 11 is, "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion...." Treaty of Tripoli

The following articles provides quotes on both sides of the issue from our Founding Fathers. What's interesting to note is some of the Pro sides cite a Creator, but not Christ.

http://www.postfun.com/pfp/worbois.html

http://dim.com/~randl/founders.htm

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4631001

There are two snippets here on when 'God' was added to our coins and Pledge of Allegiance One of the snippets claims that Christians had grown to one-fourth of the population by the time of the Civil War, but doesn't cite an historical reference.

The bottom line is the Founding Fathers intended for people to have the rights to follow any religion they desired. They also intended for people to be protected from having religion foisted upon them, particularly by our government.

[DarkStar50 679]

SalmingUSA - You are now the Professor Emeritus of MSH!