ouch.

[acollette49 0]

i have been skating in vector 7s for about a year. for the previous 12 years i skated in various tacks, 1052s being the last ones. with the vectors im having some serious pain running down the outside edge of my right foot. ive tied the laces a couple different ways, none have felt any better.

my question is what the hell is wrong with my skate/foot? when i tried the vectors they felt fine. are the vectors that much different in fit than the tacks? should i just bite the bullet and get new tacks?

[jbyun04 7]

vectors are narrower than tacks because i sure as heck couldn't fit into vectors but i could easily slip into tacks

[shute 4]

look into getting them baked, again if you have to and also look into the insoles. sometimes changing it helps

[xMenace 0]

Sounds like a width issue. What is the skate width? Your feet could be widening. Supposedly this happens in late teens, but I don't know for sure.

[acollette49 0]

ive gotten them baked twice, so i dont know how much a third time will help.

im well past my late teens, but they are the same width as my old tacks, a d.

[jbyun04 7]

if you've skated in tacks without a problem for the last 12 years then you definately have a problem unless you get vectors in a wider width. My feet get cramps just trying to slip into them and I skate easily in tacks. I suppose you could get them stretched

[oldtrainerguy28 478]

vectors are narrower than tacks because i sure as heck couldn't fit into vectors but i could easily slip into tacks

Actually Vectors are wider then Tacks in the heel but the same in the toe. There is almost the same amount in the arch as well about a mm more room in a Vector than a Tack.

[jbyun04 7]

vectors are narrower than tacks because i sure as heck couldn't fit into vectors but i could easily slip into tacks

Actually Vectors are wider then Tacks in the heel but the same in the toe. There is almost the same amount in the arch as well about a mm more room in a Vector than a Tack.

how is that possible? I have a wide foot and I can't get into Vectors for the life of me.. I can't even fit my hand in there

[acollette49 0]

vectors are narrower than tacks because i sure as heck couldn't fit into vectors but i could easily slip into tacks

Actually Vectors are wider then Tacks in the heel but the same in the toe. There is almost the same amount in the arch as well about a mm more room in a Vector than a Tack.

so if thats the case, what is up with my skates? they are the same size, width, etc. as the last pair of tacks i had.

[oldtrainerguy28 478]

vectors are narrower than tacks because i sure as heck couldn't fit into vectors but i could easily slip into tacks

Actually Vectors are wider then Tacks in the heel but the same in the toe. There is almost the same amount in the arch as well about a mm more room in a Vector than a Tack.

how is that possible? I have a wide foot and I can't get into Vectors for the life of me.. I can't even fit my hand in there

Because thats they way it has always ben thelast of the RBK and the Vector is wider then the Tack just the way it is? I have no idea why yur guys feer arent fitting but thats the make of the 3 boots!

Tack Narrow heel wide toe higher arch

Vector Wider heel med arch and wide toe

RBK wider heel ( same as Vector) low arch wide toe.

Thats right from the guy that makes the skates!

[acollette49 0]

so if its not the skate, whats wrong with my foot? is there something i can do to alleviate the pressure? as i said, ive tied the skate a few different ways....

[LetsGoWings13 0]

When I used to have my vectors I found that wearing thinner socks or no socks helped the pain go away I had the exact same thing happen to me except mine happened after having my skates for 3 or 4 months almost like my foot got wider.

[jjtt99 0]

Because thats they way it has always ben thelast of the RBK and the Vector is wider then the Tack just the way it is? I have no idea why yur guys feer arent fitting but thats the make of the 3 boots!

Tack Narrow heel wide toe higher arch

Vector Wider heel med arch and wide toe

RBK wider heel ( same as Vector) low arch wide toe.

Thats right from the guy that makes the skates!

Hi arch on a Tack??? No way. That's one of the most shallow boots on the market.

[jcp2 2]

Because thats they way it has always ben thelast of the RBK and the Vector is wider then the Tack just the way it is? I have no idea why yur guys feer arent fitting but thats the make of the 3 boots!

Tack Narrow heel wide toe higher arch

Vector Wider heel med arch and wide toe

RBK wider heel ( same as Vector) low arch wide toe.

Thats right from the guy that makes the skates!

Hi arch on a Tack??? No way. That's one of the most shallow boots on the market.

Maybe he's using the term "arch" to refer to the contour of the inner sole of the foot rather than the height of the top of the foot (as in instep). For instance, I have a low arch, but a high instep, leading to a high volume foot which is too thick for my old CCM Vakutacks, although the width is okay.

[gavin 0]

vectors are narrower than tacks because i sure as heck couldn't fit into vectors but i could easily slip into tacks

Actually Vectors are wider then Tacks in the heel but the same in the toe. There is almost the same amount in the arch as well about a mm more room in a Vector than a Tack.

I've skated in Tacks (regular width) all my life. I've been in Vectors for the past 4 years. I've talked with a lot of people and you are the only one I know who would not agree that:

Vector with E width = Tack regular width.

Vector heels tend to be rather narrow.

Tacks have a little wider heel than the vector.

So the Vector is actually narrower than the Tack. maybe that is acollette's problem, have you tried getting a E width Vector? Or going back to the Tack?

[acollette49 0]

if its not just a simple fix, im going to go back to tacks. i was hoping to avoid having to buy new skates.

[srv2miker 0]

Is it specific to a certain area? Because you could just get that spot punched out. I had to get a couple of pressure points on the outsside of my tacks punched, and it made a great deal of difference.

[oldtrainerguy28 478]

vectors are narrower than tacks because i sure as heck couldn't fit into vectors but i could easily slip into tacks

Actually Vectors are wider then Tacks in the heel but the same in the toe. There is almost the same amount in the arch as well about a mm more room in a Vector than a Tack.

I've skated in Tacks (regular width) all my life. I've been in Vectors for the past 4 years. I've talked with a lot of people and you are the only one I know who would not agree that:

Vector with E width = Tack regular width.

Vector heels tend to be rather narrow.

Tacks have a little wider heel than the vector.

So the Vector is actually narrower than the Tack. maybe that is acollette's problem, have you tried getting a E width Vector? Or going back to the Tack?

My references for this information come directly from the factory I dont just sit here and make it up.

As for the arch issue above that is correct it has a higher intep creating less volume not more than the Vector!

As for the heel width it is again as follows.

Tack = Narrow Like a Nike

Vector = Medium Like a Vapor

RBK = Wide Like a Supreme

You can have your opinions on how they feel on your foot and thats the way they feel, but the above is the way they are made.

[jbyun04 7]

Tack = Narrow Like a Nike

Vector = Medium Like a Vapor

RBK = Wide Like a Supreme

actually that sounds bang on

[acollette49 0]

Is it specific to a certain area?  Because you could just get that spot punched out.  I had to get a couple of pressure points on the outsside of my tacks punched, and it made a great deal of difference.

its specific to the middle of the very outside of my right foot. if that makes sense.

[looney1 0]

Various Tacks, E40, 952 Tacks, Vector 7 and now Vector 10. These are all skates that I have owned. I have a wide foot that starts from about the ball of my foot. In most CCM skates I skate in a d width and they work fine. When I switched to the Vector 7 I had to go to E width. I am not sure if they are that much narrower but because of the material used on this boot it has very little give. The lace lock does not allow the lower portion of the laces to loosen up like the Tacks. I used waxed laces on my Tacks because they would not stretch/loosen as much as regular ones.

My first skate in the Vectors I had relace the skate about 7 times in a one hour skate. The sides of my feet killed me. I had to relearn how to tighten the laces with the lace locks. It took a little bit but now I leave it pretty loose from the lace lock down and snug to tight on the last two eyelets. I still skate once in a while in my 952 lace normally in these skates.

I just bought some Vector 10 and I tried a d width on, sat in them for about 10 mins and they are too tight for me. My lhs even heated one boot for me just to try and see if it would work. I ended getting e width again. Skated on them and they are quite a jump from the 7's in feel and performance. No pain and not much of an adjustment. Hope this helps answer some questions for you.

[srv2miker 0]

Is it specific to a certain area?  Because you could just get that spot punched out.  I had to get a couple of pressure points on the outsside of my tacks punched, and it made a great deal of difference.

its specific to the middle of the very outside of my right foot. if that makes sense.

You could give punching them a shot at your LHS. But to be honest, I love my Tacks, and when I tried on Vectors I couldn't even get my foot into the E widths (despite wearing 10.5E tacks). You may just not fit into the Vectors. But, since you've dropped the coin already, a little extra to punch the side might not hurt.

[cp16 0]

yeah I had the same problem with my old grafs, i had wide feet and they felt great when i tried them on at the store, but once i started breaking into them they felt horrible and i hate sharp pains in my foot while i played. Things you could do are get an insole at the bottom and switch from wax laces to regular laces cause they hv a little more give and will loosen up a bit during games to alleviate the pressure. If all else fails, then i guess u should see ur LHS or get some new skates.