tell me WHY?

[zrez 0]

Eazy, you need to stop being a little bitch. The point of the game is to score goals. I cant even belive ur getting mad because they are trying to dangle and run the score. Why doesnt the NHL just change the rules so that if one team is winning by more than 2 goals, the clock turns into running time. Or maybe if a team gets over 5 goals, they just stop putting it up on the score board so the other team doesnt get embarassed.

Where you one of those players that got very limited ice time and kept complaining that it wasnt fair? Have you ever played in a competative league? Scores get run up all the time. Its part of the game, so get used to it and stop your bitching.

[Eazy_b97 1]

The Flyer's won cups by just beating the hell out of their opponents. The object of the game is to win, and retribution would help Philly win. All that matters is scoring 1 more goal than the other team. If you could read the post you'd understand my objection isn't the act of scoring goals, but their whole attitude towards it. The excessive celebrations and the individual efforts. You can score goals with class. Maybe the concepts are above your head.

I've played everywhere from houseleague to AAA to Juniors in my playing career. Have Friends all the way up to the show. Scores get run up all the time, sure. Players also intentionally run at players during these instances. Maybe you should consider how ironic it is you are tossing around the word bitch, when you are worried about a little physical prescence being implemented. Were you one of these players that scared away from the physical contact? Were you the one who went to the bench during a line brawl? Because I'd hope you would know high level hockey involves some dirty junk. It's okay though, question the levels I've played all you want. I'm comfortable with where I've played as a player and my connections to much higher levels.

[LoXish 0]

On the "tell me why" trend... tell me why Briere can manage a -1 +/- in a 9-1 victory.

[zrez 0]

Maybe you should consider how ironic it is you are tossing around the word bitch, when you are worried about a little physical prescence being implemented.

Ok, so where in the hell did i mention ANYTHING about being worried about physical prescence? You should probably stop making stuff up.

As for you having conections to people in the show... come on.. whats that suppose to mean? Connections are just that, connections. Do you plan on using these connections to get some tryouts or what?

[hockeyherb 1]

You can't stop running up a score in hockey like in a game such as in football say, where you can just run the ball and burn the clock.

In hockey what is a team supposed to do, skate it into the opponent's zone and then drop the puck off and skate back out? I think it's just ingrained in hockey players to always want to score, especially guys that don't get to do it that often but see their team manhandling the other team like the Sabres did tonight.

[Eazy_b97 1]

Ok, so where in the hell did i mention ANYTHING about being worried about physical prescence? You should probably stop making stuff up.

As for you having conections to people in the show... come on.. whats that suppose to mean? Connections are just that, connections. Do you plan on using these connections to get some tryouts or what?

Eazy, you need to stop being a little bitch. The point of the game is to score goals. I cant even belive ur getting mad because they are trying to dangle and run the score.

I'm not mad because they ran the score up. I think it's classless there's a difference. You are the one who thinks it's bitchy to get physical in a blow-out. Sometimes it comes outside the rules. I'd assume if you like physical play you'd be comfortable with it.

Where you one of those players that got very limited ice time and kept complaining that it wasnt fair? Have you ever played in a competative league? Scores get run up all the time. Its part of the game, so get used to it and stop your bitching.

Aren't you asking about my involvement in the game here? That's why I mentioned where I've played and where my "connections" go.

Now you come on an attack me personally, and now you are continuing to do so. It shows a weak argument and a lack of intelligence. If you were confident you were correct in your argument you could've left out the question of where I play because it really doesn't matter. Your opinion really makes it seem like your experiences in hockey are limited and you haven't had a win at all cost coach just yet.

[hockey3 0]

The game was in Buffalo. How would you feel if you were one of the fans watching and after Buffalo scored the 6 goals in second period just eased up. I know if im paying to see a hockey game, I wanna see a full 60 minutes not just watch my team take it easy for the third period.

[Eazy_b97 1]

The game was in Buffalo. How would you feel if you were one of the fans watching and after Buffalo scored the 6 goals in second period just eased up. I know if im paying to see a hockey game, I wanna see a full 60 minutes not just watch my team take it easy for the third period.

Most nights you don't see the team going full tilt anyways. If you win 4 or 5 nothing It's still a hell of a night as a fan and it is done regularly. I've been to more than a few games where it's been done.

It's not the actual score that bothers me as much as the actions on the ice and the way the players handled themselves. Please tell me those arguing against my position at least watched the game tonight and not just the highlights.

[zrez 0]

Ok, so where in the hell did i mention ANYTHING about being worried about physical prescence? You should probably stop making stuff up.

As for you having conections to people in the show... come on.. whats that suppose to mean? Connections are just that, connections. Do you plan on using these connections to get some tryouts or what?

Eazy, you need to stop being a little bitch. The point of the game is to score goals. I cant even belive ur getting mad because they are trying to dangle and run the score.

I'm not mad because they ran the score up. I think it's classless there's a difference. You are the one who thinks it's bitchy to get physical in a blow-out. Sometimes it comes outside the rules. I'd assume if you like physical play you'd be comfortable with it.

Where you one of those players that got very limited ice time and kept complaining that it wasnt fair? Have you ever played in a competative league? Scores get run up all the time. Its part of the game, so get used to it and stop your bitching.

Aren't you asking about my involvement in the game here? That's why I mentioned where I've played and where my "connections" go.

Now you come on an attack me personally, and now you are continuing to do so. It shows a weak argument and a lack of intelligence. If you were confident you were correct in your argument you could've left out the question of where I play because it really doesn't matter. Your opinion really makes it seem like your experiences in hockey are limited and you haven't had a win at all cost coach just yet.

Iam sorry. Maybe iam missing something, but i still dont see where i say i dislike being physical, seeing people being physical, or people getting physical in a blow out. I dont belive i mentioned anything close to that in any of my posts. Maybe if your quoted me on this i would understand where your getting this argument from, cause it seems like your just pulling this out of your ass.

I didnt intend to attack you personaly. I just asked wether or not you played high lvl hockey. Teams have ran the score against my teams, and my teams have ran the score against other teams. it happens in higher lvls of hockey when teams are good, and the other team has a bad night. The way you were talking made me think you've never played higher lvl hockey and hadnt experienced this.

PS: i just sawthe highlights and the only celebration that seemed over reacted was afiniganovs'. But he seems like the kind of person who would over exagerate all his celebrations.

[kosydar 0]

I only caught pieces of the game, but I'm with Eazy on this one. Yes, its amazing when those rare nights happen when everything goes right, but that doesn't mean you have to be dicks about it. Celebrating after goals is bad in this situation. Like it was previously said, I'm really surprised nobody got hurt. Frankly I'm shocked that Briere, Drury, Roy, Pominville, Hecht, and Afinagenov all played within the last five minutes of the game. I thought Ruff was supposed to be a good coach, and thats just a retarded move.

[LegoDoom 0]

I think you guys are missing Eazy's point. It's not that they ran up the score, it's how they did it. Skating hard and playing good hockey while running up the score isn't bad.

Constantly celebrating after goals that mean absolutely nothing is just classless. Going after another player because they did that is not something that is exclusive to something that the Flyers team. If you stand there looking at a meaningless homerun in MLB, either you or your teammate will get thrown at. Same goes for stealing bases and intentionally throwing inside to certain players. It's the way a team goes about winning.

And I didn't see much of the 3rd period, so I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the points being made about this specific game.... just trying to clarify Eazy's point.

[Eazy_b97 1]

Kosy - Ruff wasn't bad actually. He had Peters on the PP and a few other guys. It wasn't so much Buffalo as a whole, as much as it was a few idiot individuals. The Vanek line (but mostly him), Afi, and Peters. I usually jump at any chance to get on Ruff, but he did well putting the right players on tonight.

zrez - It's funny, because in most of the blow-outs I've been a part of we were told to keep our heads up because it was coming. And a cheapshot usually did. On the flip side, in the few blow-outs I recieved in an upper level, the coach would go out and hand out numbers of players to go after. Your first comment with hockey being about Dangles and goals made me assume you don't like physical hockey since it's a huge part of the game as well. Celebrations 6-9 were excessive, notable 6 and 9. Then the Peters hit on Foppa was when the score was 6-0 and Peter just didn't care. Dumps the puck, not in possession, well gone and a shoulder in his chest to please the fans. This was the one instance where I really wanted Philly to step up and do something. It was a cheap hit in my eyes, and I would've responded similarly.

Theo - They did come easy, especially the first 3. So why did Afi think it was a smart move to take the puck go right at 3 D-men, try a dangerous dangle and cut across the net after? Why not dump it to a winger, and get it back. He opted for a highlight play which rarely works against opponents who care. These are the instances that bother me.

Lego - Thanks, exactly what I am saying. I think this was the first time in my life I ever wanted to see Brashier on the ice.

[warrior37 0]

i saw the hit peters put on foppa, i say clean hit, finished check doesnt matter the score

and when vanek scored the ninth goal he put his head down and fist bumped his linemate

i dont like either team or anything, but i didnt see much wrong with the way buffalo played

[SB39 2]

Easy: on Afi's goal, if 1 fast guy can undress 3 Flyers like that, then they deserve to feel like shyte about it. Human beings learn best from failures. You best learn not to touch a hot stove by getting that first burn, by the painful reality of it. Such is the case in these games.

The celebrating; no comment, since Im from the SF area and we had TO for years, so Philly could have been a bit more physical with some of the Sabres, IF THEY COULD CATCH THEM. Chalk it up to a painful awakening experience for the Flyers, and please leave it at that.

[zrez 0]

zrez - It's funny, because in most of the blow-outs I've been a part of we were told to keep our heads up because it was coming. And a cheapshot usually did. On the flip side, in the few blow-outs I recieved in an upper level, the coach would go out and hand out numbers of players to go after. Your first comment with hockey being about Dangles and goals made me assume you don't like physical hockey since it's a huge part of the game as well. Celebrations 6-9 were excessive, notable 6 and 9. Then the Peters hit on Foppa was when the score was 6-0 and Peter just didn't care. Dumps the puck, not in possession, well gone and a shoulder in his chest to please the fans. This was the one instance where I really wanted Philly to step up and do something. It was a cheap hit in my eyes, and I would've responded similarly.

I didnt say it was all about dangles. i remember u saying u thot it was classless to try and dangle through a whole team during a blow out. I disagreed. I didnt say hockey was all about dangles and not hitting. Right now my role on my team is more of a grinder than a scorer anyways.

[Eazy_b97 1]

It is classless, certain situations call for a move, others don't. There were times when Buffalo players had better options on the ice, but decided to try for the highlight reels instead. The chance to dangle like they did tonight is rarely there, which is why I don't buy the "stay sharp" argument. If anything the plays I'm talking about reinforce bad habits.

[LegoDoom 0]

Easy: on Afi's goal, if 1 fast guy can undress 3 Flyers like that, then they deserve to feel like shyte about it. Human beings learn best from failures. You best learn not to touch a hot stove by getting that first burn, by the painful reality of it. Such is the case in these games.

The celebrating; no comment, since Im from the SF area and we had TO for years, so Philly could have been a bit more physical with some of the Sabres, IF THEY COULD CATCH THEM. Chalk it up to a painful awakening experience for the Flyers, and please leave it at that.

That's the thing... how much were they up for playing when down that much? It's a lot easier to dangle against 3 players who aren't playing as hard as they would be in a close game.

[SB39 2]

Lego: then stay in the game. If you take a night off, especially against a fast and talented team, then bad things tend to happen. I place a greater value judgement on learning than the embarrassing.

[Chadd 916]

You haven't talked about any of the issues really. As for the Fans, the power would likely mean less people are watching than normal. Wake up call or not it was a joke. You can play good hockey without running up the score. Buffalo opted to go full throttle and I expect someone will straighten them out a bit down the line. Philly was low class, and lucky for Buffalo they've dumped alot of their idiots or else tonight's 3rd period would've been much more fun to watch.

I have yet to read past this post, but I'll take a crack at this. I'm sorry if someone came up with this answer before me.

You can't let up in the NHL anymore. You have to keep scoring and playing offense or you might lose up the game. I also wouldn't want my players to stop trying, you start to develop bad habits that way. I did not see the third period, I as too busy scoring goals for my team, so I can't comment on the behavior. Running Forsberg? He can be as cheap with his stick as anyone in the NHL, people just tend to ignore it because he's a star. Maybe he said something, maybe he did something off camera, hell maybe they just felt like they could do anything.

It sounds like they wanted to serve notice to the rest of the NHL that they better bring their A game when you come to play the Sabres. If you can put a little fear in the other team before you step on the ice, you have an advantage.

[Chadd 916]

Theo - They did come easy, especially the first 3. So why did Afi think it was a smart move to take the puck go right at 3 D-men, try a dangerous dangle and cut across the net after? Why not dump it to a winger, and get it back. He opted for a highlight play which rarely works against opponents who care. These are the instances that bother me.

Name one time Afi has ever made the simple play when he could go for a highlight goal. He always acts like an idiot when he scores, it was nothing out of the ordinary for him. I thought it was a fantastic move, just surprised that he managed to actually finish for a change.

[LegoDoom 0]

Lego: then stay in the game. If you take a night off, especially against a fast and talented team, then bad things tend to happen. I place a greater value judgement on learning than the embarrassing.

Stay in the game at 6-0? Please explain.

[kosydar 0]

Kosy - Ruff wasn't bad actually. He had Peters on the PP and a few other guys. It wasn't so much Buffalo as a whole, as much as it was a few idiot individuals. The Vanek line (but mostly him), Afi, and Peters. I usually jump at any chance to get on Ruff, but he did well putting the right players on tonight.

I rarely ever think its necessary to put out your skill players for the last shift of a game unless you're down by a goal or two. Putting them out in a 9-1 game is just asking for one of them to get hurt. I only really paid attention to who was out during the last two shifts, but I can't think of a single reason to put any of them out.

[AnthonyJTa 0]

You haven't talked about any of the issues really. As for the Fans, the power would likely mean less people are watching than normal. Wake up call or not it was a joke. You can play good hockey without running up the score. Buffalo opted to go full throttle and I expect someone will straighten them out a bit down the line. Philly was low class, and lucky for Buffalo they've dumped alot of their idiots or else tonight's 3rd period would've been much more fun to watch.

I have yet to read past this post, but I'll take a crack at this. I'm sorry if someone came up with this answer before me.

You can't let up in the NHL anymore. You have to keep scoring and playing offense or you might lose up the game. I also wouldn't want my players to stop trying, you start to develop bad habits that way. I did not see the third period, I as too busy scoring goals for my team, so I can't comment on the behavior. Running Forsberg? He can be as cheap with his stick as anyone in the NHL, people just tend to ignore it because he's a star. Maybe he said something, maybe he did something off camera, hell maybe they just felt like they could do anything.

It sounds like they wanted to serve notice to the rest of the NHL that they better bring their A game when you come to play the Sabres. If you can put a little fear in the other team before you step on the ice, you have an advantage.

right on.. teams take games like this as a learning experience, and move on... I'm sure if Hitchcock wanted a message dropped out there, he would have pulled the trigger on a 4th liner burying someone. But the way Philly played, he obviously wanted his team, as well as his goalie to learn a lesson in humiliation.

[hamstercaster 2]

Here's the reason why Esche was still in nets at 9-1. He was interviewed as to why he was getting I think his first start of the year and against a fast team like Buffalo on top of that. Esche said something like, I don't know, then he or the reporter said something like, you're not in Hitchcock's head... Esche then said something along the lines of... It's an empty space anyway.. can't remember his exact words but saw it on tv last night...

[DarkStar50 679]

All I know is these guys are paid professionals. If the Sabres want to take it to the Flyers in the first minute or the 59th, good for them. If the Flyers want to wait for the Sabres to take their foot off the throttle, then the Flyers are a bigger group of idiots thinking that the Sabres will ease up. Flyers should go back to the room and say "We sucked!" Sabres can go back to the room and say "Thats it boys! Bury'em!"

There is no room for compassion in professional sports. Nobody who is anybody has any feelings for their opponent. That is Lesson #`1. How do you think any of those guys got there in the first place? By caring about the guy they are lined up against at any point in any game they ever played in? I don't think so.