hockey_player_11 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 A couple weeks ago my team went for fitness testing where our results were recorded and compared to average results of players of the same and higher calibre. I got my results today, and wasnt disappointed but infact a bit stunned. The areas I did above average are my weaker attributes and the the areas I did lower in, I thought I was better. I'm a big player, decenlty strong but not a great skater-not very agile. Yet, my best attribute was agility! I think this type of assesment is VERY inaccurate, and am sort of pissed off that I didnt do better in what I thought were my better areas. Has anyone done any type of fitness testing/assesment before? Was it accurate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pats 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 First of all was the testing done on the ice or off the ice? That could be a reason for the results. I see lots of guys who are very strong, agile, etc, in the gym but are just brutal players on the ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockey_player_11 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 it was off ice in a gym Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thunderhockey19 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 that could be why then like pats said because things can definatly change off ice comepared to other people. i know some people that arent the most cordinated people of skates, but if you give them a puck and some open ice there awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cavs019 710 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 I can't run for the life of me but I'm a pretty fast skater with very good stride fundamentals. Its definately inaccurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan_The_Man_16 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 Im in the same boat as Cavs. I can't run fast for the life of me, but long distance is a different story. It's probably very inaccurate, I would talk to your coach.p.s. Nice avatar hockey_player11, I have that hat! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pats 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 Personally, I don't really think there is any need to talk to anyone. Basically what it comes down to, is fitness testing in reality means a whole lot of nothing. What it shows more than anything is one's attitude, effort and committment. It's not whether you can make that lift or finish that bike, it's whether they are taking note that you went balls out not whether it was completed or not. I'm guess that when this testing was done you probably noticed guys who weren't really trying and that is what will hurt them not that they may have been able to do the task. Also, from my experience, testing only plays a role when there is basically one spot left on a team and it is between teo players who are more or less equal on the ice. You must remember that when players are growing up, they all are at different stages and have different capacities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biff44 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 Fitness testing, in the right hands, probably tells a lot about a player's potential. They did testing at the USCHA camp, but also explained some of it. Chin-ups for instance seem to be unrelated to hockey. But they explained that hockey players play with the front part of their body mostly, so they develop a muscle imbalance--too much strength in the front and little strength in the back. That leads to the player rounding forward his shoulders and bending forward more, consequently having poor balance--leading to being easy to knock down on the ice. Makes sense when you think about it. The right tests can show how well you can perform today, or if you can be improved on in the future with a good training program. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pats 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 I agree with what you say, but for some exercises ie. chin-ups not all people can do them very well based on body type and things of the sort. Someone who weights not very much and has short arms has way more leverage in something like chin-ups than a very lanky person who may weight quite a bit but has problems doing that type of exercises. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biff44 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2004 Thats true. But when you are standing in a room full of prospects, you want to be at least average in the # you can do, despite the body type you were given. For chinups, it looke like the average # for 15-18 year olds was around 7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pats 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2004 No doubt you want to do well, but I know this guy who has a good shot at being drafted to the NHL in the 2005 draft who can only do one chin-up and that's not saying he is strong, he just can't do chin-ups in his 6'2 220 lbs frame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biff44 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2004 Sometimes a poor testing can work in your favor. I remember one top player who showed up at the NHL draft physical testing a couple of years back that was so out of shape that it was big news. The scouts were saying "just think how great this guy will be if he does get into shape". So if you are a stud already, it is not so important. If you are in the bubble, you had better stand out in the testing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gongshow11 1 Report post Posted June 25, 2004 Sometimes a poor testing can work in your favor. I remember one top player who showed up at the NHL draft physical testing a couple of years back that was so out of shape that it was big news. The scouts were saying "just think how great this guy will be if he does get into shape". So if you are a stud already, it is not so important. If you are in the bubble, you had better stand out in the testing. did this guy have to do with a vast amount of McDonalds and other fast foods? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
