Orthotics question...

[AnthonyJTa 0]

I just got my custom orthotics in today... I'm really excited. However, when I put them in my skates- they're too wide. They don't sit in the heel of the boot accordingly. Should I go get the heel punched so they sit in right? I just don't want them (orthotics) to make matters worse by not sitting in the skate correctly.

I mean, the orthotics look like they should be trimmed down a bit... should I look into that, or just look into modding the boots?

[Andoy 5]

it sounds to me that your orthotics weren't designed for your skates.

[JR Boucicaut 3805]

Exactly - what did you get and were they made with the boot in mind?

[hockeymom 2]

Take them - the orthotics and your skates - to the podiatrist and see if he can trim them to fit. There often is a final trim in the process.

But, as others have said, they do need to be made for skates - and your specific skate.

[Jason16 0]

I agree. You need orthotics made specifically for you skates. I have 2 sets, one for my runners and one for my skates. I had to bring in the insoles from my skates for my podiatrist to build them around to ensure the volume of the boot would not change.

[AnthonyJTa 0]

Exactly - what did you get and were they made with the boot in mind?

They're the extremely hard plastic, with the non-skid coating on top. I had my feet molded at my podiatrists office... and I specified they were for skates... I even brought in the same pics I sent you, JR to show him what was happening. He assured me he's done orthotics for skates and ski boots in the past... so I left it at that.

Ugh, I'll probably have to make another appointment. I'm going to have to be a jerk and refuse to pay for a new set if that's the case.

[indaslot 0]

Did you give him the skate insole as a model? Don't worry too much,skate orthotics (and shoe orthotics)can usually be adjusted.Your podiatrist probably sends them out to a lab to be made and just makes the mold.

[kovalchuk71 212]

Does insurance cover orthotics?

Do you have to have a weird foot to get them or is it a good idea just to get them if you have a "normal" foot. Does it noticebly (sp) change the comfort?

Sorry for kind of going off topic, I didnt wnt to start a new one with the same title.

[AnthonyJTa 0]

Did you give him the skate insole as a model? Don't worry too much,skate orthotics (and shoe orthotics)can usually be adjusted.Your podiatrist probably sends them out to a lab to be made and just makes the mold.

nah, he never asked...which was why I was a little "hmm" about it after the matter. He just stated he's done them for skates and ski boots before.. so took trust in that. I just left a message with him... if I need to get a 2nd pair it will suck, since my ins. just covered these.

Does insurance cover orthotics?

Do you have to have a weird foot to get them or is it a good idea just to get them if you have a "normal" foot. Does it noticebly (sp) change the comfort?

Sorry for kind of going off topic, I didnt wnt to start a new one with the same title.

I have very flat, wide feet....and my right foot pronates a lot. To the point where my ankle is rolled inward, and I'm stuck on my inside edge all the time, as opposed to being on the flat of the blade. I could have modified my boot with shims, but I figured it's basically a health problem, so I should fix the issue as opposed to just fixing my skates. But yeah, insurance covered them. It's more a corrective thing than it is for a normal foot.

[hockeymom 2]

Anthony.... Don't worry about being a jerk in this, you're not a jerk. Just take your skates and insoles (orthotics) back to him and have him do the final fit. If they don't fit, because you specified they were for skates, it his his error or the labs error... and I am sure he will replace them for free.

Start from the place of these aren't fitting in my skates and take it from there.

[AnthonyJTa 0]

he actually just called me from his cellular phone...

he said I could either bring them in to be narrowed down... or I could pay $65 for a secondary pair. I don't know why the secondary pair is so discounted... but I'm not about to argue. He said it's a simple fix, or a week wait for a narrow pair for my skates. He said he'd like to see me have the pair in my shoes as well.

[hockeymom 2]

That sounds like a good deal. You mentioned it as a health issue... would be very great to also have them in your shoes.

[AnthonyJTa 0]

That sounds like a good deal. You mentioned it as a health issue... would be very great to also have them in your shoes.

yeah, like I mentioned in previous posts... my feet are so flat, I've gotten stress fractures in my B and C metatarsles from jogging. So I had to get a pair in high school, and I'd run 2 miles a day for lacrosse practice, no pain, no cramping with the orthotics. Once I got out of high school and became physically inactive haha... I figured I didn't need them. Nowadays, I've been running at the gym, playing dekhockey and now skating... and I've been in agony. So I basically kicked myself in the behind for not following up with a podiatrist until now.

[indaslot 0]

I would definately get them in your shoes as well.Feet get worse with age.Make sure that he has your skate insoles for the skate orthotic though (not the skate itself)for the width and shape.

[AnthonyJTa 0]

..thanks guys!

yeah, I'm going to drop by with an insole from my skate tomorrow morning. I'm going to go with the secondary pair... I really do need 'em in my shoes as well.

[indaslot 0]

This is a case of serendipity:if you had not had the problem with the skate orthotic, you might not have gotten the shoe orthotic, so it was actually a positive thing!

[echi24 1]

Do you have to have a weird foot to get them or is it a good idea just to get them if you have a "normal" foot. Does it noticebly (sp) change the comfort?

Orthotics will correct pronation or supenation which is caused by a flat or high arch, as well as other irregularities with the shape of your foot or length of your legs. The orthotics will stabilize your foot and stop any side to side rolling of the foot, and this will essentially re-align your step or stride from the ankles to the knees and eventually into the lower back. Keep in mind that everyone has differently sized and length feet, but those with more serious irregulariteis will need orthotics to correct the problem.

You do not need orthotics if you have a neutral foot, and it is not a good idea either. Orthotics cost hundreds and hundreds of dollars (usually around $500 CDN around here), and quite frankly they are a hassle.

[AnthonyJTa 0]

You do not need orthotics if you have a neutral foot, and it is not a good idea either. Orthotics cost hundreds and hundreds of dollars (usually around $500 CDN around here), and quite frankly they are a hassle.

exactly... which is why I said they're for corrective purposes only.... trust me, if my foot wasn't so screwed up, I would never be getting into them... it feels like a burden sometimes, and the process of trial and error and onto finding a podiatrist, and getting orthotics has been painful in it's own... nevermind the actual foot pain.

[echi24 1]

well good thing you finally got them made! ive seen bad cases of shin splints, plantar fasciatis, and other injurys that develop due to pronation. its all about alignment

[AnthonyJTa 0]

well good thing you finally got them made! ive seen bad cases of shin splints, plantar fasciatis, and other injurys that develop due to pronation. its all about alignment

no kidding... that's exactly why when they were mis-sized, I just went with a 2nd pair for my skates. I really do need them in my running shoes as well. I've gotten shin splints, I've gotten stress fractures.... and my doctor warned me that if I don't take steps to correct the problem, it will eventually lead to plantar fasciatis... which would possibly lead to heel spurs. My dad had heel spurs, and he was in agony for a while, especially when skating..

per my doc... with my foot being pronated, there was a "domino effect", it lead to my big toe nail on that foot always going ingrown, and becoming infected -which in turn made me limp in pain... and he says my knee is even out of whack because of the combination of the toe/flat foot/pronated ankle, but nothing so serious yet.... he heavily emphasized the "yet..." haha..

so yeah people... take care of your feet... especially when you're putting so much stress, and impact on them.

[hockeymom 2]

I have said this in other threads obout orthotics.... a friend of mine was thinking he had to drop playing hockey because he was having so much knee and hip pain. (We all get there eventually...lol) I convinced him to go to a podiatrist. With orthotics he was able to quit boring us with his whinning about aches and pains and, more importantly, continue playing hockey.

Had he been wearing orthotics from the time he was a kid, or a teen, or even perhaps in his 20's.... he could have avoided all of the damage to his joints over the years.

In my experience, there are more people who could benefit from orthotics (or at least something like superfeet) than not. In other words, very few of us have "normal" feet and a "clean" or "straight" gait.

[number21 3]

i should seriously get mine updated for my running shoes. i have never noticed problem while skating so that's good.

i have had mine for 11 or 12 years they are probably not as effective as they should be. My family has notoriously bad joints, so i think it's just a matter of time for me. :(

i'll have to investigate my insurance see if it's covered.

[echi24 1]

Yeah, I've spoken to various chiropractors and podatrists, and they all stress the same thing: when the arch falls inwards, the misalignment carries through to the ankles, knees, and lower back. when the joints are not aligned, your body cannot absorb the impact as efficiently, and there is more stress on your joints. you put about 3-4 times your body weight onto your feet when you run, now imagine how the impact ripples and disperses through your joints.

i have a slightly lower arch but am also bow-legged, so for me i pronate then supenate in the same step...talk about weird. i am looking to try superfeet in my skates actually as orthotics are too extreme of a correction for me

[hoagie47 0]

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[kovalchuk71 212]

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