Labeda hummer chasis

[hockeydevil11 0]

I have a pair of red maxs and they are awsome in my opinion, i have a much higher top-end speed and i coast much better too, after skating a while in the tours i laced up my old missions to see if i liked the hi-lo chassi better and i hated them. I think the hummer is a great chassi. :)

[43%burnt 0]

what's the acceleration like and how are they in the turns? do they feel heavy/bulky?

[H0CKEY0016 0]

Personally, i love it, im alot faster and i find i can last longer on the rink too, u dont have to use as much energy to skate, my friend also switched to that frame and said the same thing

[chrisg19 5]

Never tried them, so nothing new here. But the two posters above seem impressed. How ironic would it be if Missions patent muscle ended up alienating themselves, with everyone switching back to a straight lineup of wheels? I am not saying this will happen, but that would be ironic...

chris

[urukhai74 0]

It's so FRUSTRATING!! No one will answer the questions about these new Hummer equipped Tour skates when it comes to the following:

Turning

Transitions

Backwards skating

Stopping

Overall Control due to wheel size

I have been to every board I can find and no one will answer these questions!

EERRGGHH!!!

[jay 1]

It's so FRUSTRATING!! No one will answer the questions about these new Hummer equipped Tour skates when it comes to the following:

Turning

Transitions

Backwards skating

Stopping

Overall Control due to wheel size

I have been to every board I can find and no one will answer these questions!

EERRGGHH!!!

But dude... they're FASTER! :lol:

[Justin 1933 134]

That's funny....Yeah, they are faster...Can't wait to skate the Boston Marathon with those...Apollo Ono uses them...

[urukhai74 0]

I get it, they are faster, but speed for a defensmen is not a major issue. Being able to move in all directions and stop and start and stop and start! That is more important for a defensemen overall.

Can you do that with the same ease that is obtained on a Hi-Lo?

My Tour 962's and 902's are just plain worn out and I need some new skates!

However after the G-Series Debacle, I am very hesitant to buy the new Tours!

Which brings me to my biggest problem. I am a COMPETE COMFORT FREAK!!

I cannot stand a skate that is uncomfortable, it just takes away from your ability to play the game! Tour is the only boot that I have used that is comfy from toe to heel!

The 9 eyelets on the new Tours also concerns me, I tried the Fishbones a couple of years ago and they only had 9 eyelets, I could never get them to stay tight and the feel was very inconsistent!

:P

[Justin 1933 134]

I was saying they are faster in jest...

Nothing can compare with Hi-Lo (except maybe the Sensor). Tour and the rest of the competition moved away from Hi-Lo because they were forced to.

Have you tried the new Mission skates? If you have a wide foot or narrow, we now make skates that fit both sizes. If comfort is a major issue, you should definitely give our skates a look.

[urukhai74 0]

Yeah, I tried on the 2004 D2 and D3. The lacing system that Mission utilizes is liken to a Fitness skate and I could not get them tight at all, either model. Both felt Great in the Ankle area, but the boot from the toe to the start of the ankle was not too good for me, my foot was moving everywhere!! Very inconsistent feel.

My Tour Redline chassis measure 10.25" in length on my Tour 962 size 9's.

I can currently get a Sensor size 10.50" from hockeymonkey.

I have a new pair of Graf 703 Ice Skates size 9.5 that I am thinking about switching to Inline.

Do you think the 10.50 would work on the 9.5 Graf? The chart say size 11 - 14.

I tried a Red Star E Frame in a size Medium, but it is too short, all of the wheels are under the skate completely, and that will not work for someone my size.

The Red Stars in a Large would work fine, but $170+ for a set is a bit high!

I also noticed through further comparisons between the new Tours and the old ones, that the new ones are designed more like a speed skate, the boot I mean. The boot only has 9 eyelets, but is missing about 3/4" of boot in heighth around the ankle.

This is driving me crazy! :o

[teamlabeda 1]

Everyone keeps on asking about the maneuverability but misses the obvious, When you hear someone say that feel they have an advantage with speed and grip over their last frame then there is no issue with maneuverability. The front two wheels are recessed to keep your agility and maneuverability the same as you would currently have on a HI/LO frame so you are just gaining superior grip and speed. First there was the high straight 76, then the low 76, the introduction of the HI/LO, then the SENSOR and now the HUM'er. It is called EVOLUTION. Just look at the Mudcats, it doesn't look like CJ is struggling out there going side to side or turning sharply. If you are not on a recessed straight 80 frame you will be at a disadvantage and does a guy like CJ or Greg Thompson need to have any more of an advantage in a game???????????

[mik3 1]

honestly...cj, the yinglings, tracy, davidson. all those guys, you could put them in a pair of rollerblade lightnings and they'd still place in nationals. it's more about what they gold/platinum level player can get out of a piece of equipment, not a pro.

[GekigangarIII 0]

I don't know, I mean the hi-lo is exactly the be all end all of chassis... it's more a jack of all trades than anything... it's not the most maneuverable (that would be a 72mm flat) nor is it the fastest (probably the hum'er now). It's a decent mix of both...

myself I'd take a low profile flat 72 or 76 like the Pro-extreme edge over a hi-lo anyday. It's just you can't find a flat anymore. I don't believe it's due to evolution either.. I think it was more due to the fact that everyone went "wowee" when the hi-lo came out because it looked cool.

[bagurk 0]

teamlabeda....

The front two wheels are recessed to keep your agility and maneuverability the same as you would currently have on a HI/LO frame so you are just gaining superior grip and speed.

yes, we understand the gravity / height thing.

what people are concerned about is

MORE grip (more of the wheel grabbing the floor cos of bigger wheel)

and

LONGER wheelbase (depending totally on which size foot u have, given that labeda are ONLY making straight 80mm which is only really suited to the larger sizes)

the above 2 things (mainly the 2nd) are what i think will adversely affect maneuverability.

[MDE3 0]

Actually it can be important to note what the pro's wear....they WILL NOT wear something that is uncomfortable or does not work....trust me...I get to see a lot of these guys every week.

If the new stuff is a pain, or unuseable it will get modified or customized until it does work. Most of these players are even more fussy about their equipment than the average joe....Who do you think tries out this stuff before it hits the street? At their levels of play....everyone wants an edge, so living with "substandard" equipment is not an acceptable option.

[Eazy_b97 1]

Actually it can be important to note what the pro's wear....they WILL NOT wear something that is uncomfortable or does not work....trust me...I get to see a lot of these guys every week.

If the new stuff is a pain, or unuseable it will get modified or customized until it does work. Most of these players are even more fussy about their equipment than the average joe....Who do you think tries out this stuff before it hits the street? At their levels of play....everyone wants an edge, so living with "substandard" equipment is not an acceptable option.

True to a certain degree until money comes into play. Also whats to say this chasis doesn't have some benefits that this particular player was looking for, yet the mojority of people hate. I would look at OPS as an example. Some Pro's may love heavy sticks and ask for a weighted down OPS, yet if they were to try and sell it, it probably wouldn't float too well in a weight driven market. It's all personal prefrence. I've never tried the chasis, I'm sure it has it's ups and downs just like all equipment does. Nothings perfect.

[pjblades44 0]

ive personally used the humer chasis at winternats in lv. i really like this idea of all 80s. you go so much faster. you can actually tell your faster. you stop better because more wheel is on the ground. many think you lose an edge in turning. i dont believe so but if you do think of how much more you gain in the straights and stops. these are the best out right now no complaints at all. i suggest these skates and chasis to everybody.

[MDE3 0]

True to a certain degree until money comes into play. Also whats to say this chasis doesn't have some benefits that this particular player was looking for, yet the mojority of people hate. I would look at OPS as an example. Some Pro's may love heavy sticks and ask for a weighted down OPS, yet if they were to try and sell it, it probably wouldn't float too well in a weight driven market. It's all personal prefrence. I've never tried the chasis, I'm sure it has it's ups and downs just like all equipment does. Nothings perfect.

3 other players I know a bit from PIHA are now on them and like them and they are wearing them out of choice not sponsorship obligation. Obviously it is hard to get to try them before purchase for most people, so it really does get down to whatever works for you, meaning what it is you think you need to improve.

There really is no absolute, but....if the gain in speed is measureable...that's a hard ticket to pass up for a lot of people.

[releap 0]

push is good.

run is bad..

[MDE3 0]

I recently had a chance to compare the Hum'er chassis to two HiLo chassis which I have. The sole platform of the Hum'er is actually closer to the floor the way they are designed than either of the HiLo chassis' I have to compare them with..one being the Nexed 2 degree Stinger chassis, and the other being the stock Nike chassis from the Nike Hi HO's.

I am planning to mount them on the Nike Hi Ho's but they will need some shims to fit the boot and not change the shape of the boot sole. This sort of change may be necessary for many non Tour boots, as the shape of the last they(the other makes) are made on will probably be different. No doubt I could force the sole to fit the current chassis profile, but that would end up changing the shape of the carbon fiber outsole, as well as changing the pitch of the skate thereby changing the whole feel of the skate, and possibly creating cracking in the outsole. The boots will need to be grooved out with a dremel tool in order for the wheels to pass..just like the Tour skates.

When mounted on the Tour skates, the Hum'ers may actually have your foot between .5 and 1.5 mm's closer to the floor than they would be on either of these other HiLo chassis'...depending on the boot and chassis sizes. Hard to believe with the 80 mm wheels, but true. The two HiLo chassis' I compared the Hum'ers to, have the second wheel(72mm) almost rubbing the sole of the boot, so there is no room left to lower those boots(meaning by changing the chassis) any farther without grooving out the outsole a la Tour Beemers or Blue Max's.

The overall "wheelbase length" of the Hum'er chassis is actually identical to the Nexed Stinger chassis which was mounted on a size 9. The Nike HiHo size 8 is almost the identical boot size.

All the skaters I know who have been using these new Tour skates with the Hum'er chassis have nothing but good things to say about them from the perspective of performance....more speed, better grip while turning, better starts and stops....looks like they may be on to something. Looking forward to seeing how they work on this "Hybrid" version.

[Hockey_18 0]

I got a pair of Beemers and have had them for about 4weeks and played atleast 10games and practices with them.These skates are amazing.The turning is so smooth and i think turning with these is much better than on hi lo skates...the stopping with these is crazy u stop right where u want.The grip is also amazing it makes turning sharp a breeze :D .When i bought these i became faster.

Overall these are the best skates i have ever skated on.

These get a 10/10!

[alex 0]

what's the difference between the Labeda Hum’er Pro Frame and the Labeda Hum’er Magnum Frame?

[bagurk 0]

i think the humer pro is SINGLE piece unlike the magnum.

[alex 0]

so the 2 piece is left and right or front and back or what?

how does that work?

[MDE3 0]

i think the humer pro is SINGLE piece unlike the magnum.

They are both "one piece" chassis...but the "Hum'er" is made from extruded aluminum, while the Magnum may be "formed" (like many other chassis including those used on the Nike HiHo's). Not positive because I have not had the chance to look at the Magnum, just the Hum'er. I was told the Hum'er" is extruded then machined by a machinist who did some work on them for me. An extrusion is generally stronger.