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I'm planning on buying a pair of One90s from one of the MSH members, and I just had a couple questions for when I get them. First, is it ok to bake at home following NBH's directions. Do I preheat my oven to 175 F, turn it off, and then put the skates in for 2-3 minutes? Also, do you put the wet towel just on the rack or do you actually cover the skates with them?

Finally, coming from 8090s, I'm wondering if anyone has advice regarding the LS2 power. Would it be advisable to get heel lifts put on immediately, or try the skate without? In addition, will the skates need profiling or is the stock radius the same? Thanks everyone.

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Dont want to be annoying, but i dont think ONE90s will fit fine when you are coming from 8090s (assuming they fit well)

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My 8090s weren't quite right, so I'm still trying to find the right skate for my foot. The One90s seem to be comfortable, although it's impossible to know for sure until I actually play in them. For the sake of this thread, let's assume the fit will work.

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I wouldn't go the oven route. I would just take it to one of your lhs and have them bake it for you. Any small adjustments regarding you can do yourself by lightly heating it up with a heatgun.

As for lifts a few one90 owners including myself have them because the skates do a good job of locking your heel into place that it feels like you're on your heels.

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Don't put your skates in a gas oven! Only a hot air convection oven, if you happen to own one.

Thank you for that excellent piece of information. I have a convection oven, HOWEVER, it is gas so I'm assuming that means I should not use it? Would it be ok if the oven was heated up and then turned off? That way there is no flame but the convection fan is still on.

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Lol, hopefully my transition is equally seamless. Anyone else have any advice regarding heel lifts and did they or didn't they? Oh, and I'd love some more info on baking them.

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I added the 3mm heel lift to my One90's because the original 9 foot rocker completely places you on your heels. Coming from an E Pro holder, I needed the forward lean added to the LS2 Power holder. After installing the heel lift, I have no complaints about the LS2 Power holder.

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I went from the XXX's to the One 90's. I hated them at first. Later found out the LHS messed up my sharpening really bad. I'm adjusting now. No heel lifts for me. You'd be crazy to put your skates in your kitchen oven.

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I added the 3mm heel lift to my One90's because the original 9 foot rocker completely places you on your heels. Coming from an E Pro holder, I needed the forward lean added to the LS2 Power holder. After installing the heel lift, I have no complaints about the LS2 Power holder.

Rocker and pitch are two different things.

Rocker is the imaginary radius created by tracing the arc created by the curve on the blade all the way around the skate. It makes a big circle, in this case with a 9' "rocker" the circle is 9' across. You can have the curved portion more to the front or back of the blade, depends on what you want.

Pitch is what you are wanting though. It is the relative height of your heel and toe as positioned by the boot and posts attaching the holder to the boot.

Lifting the heel via a spacer will in fact put you more on your toes like you want. Changing your rocker won't really help your issue of being on your heels, it just puts more or less steel in contact with the ice.

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I came out of Graf 703's and tried the One90's getting the runners profiled for the rocker to be forward... (9' radius) -- I had done this following the pdf fit sheet available on the NBH website. I also had the skates baked twice. I got that "feeling that I was back on my heels" phenomenon that I had read about on MSH and then ended up getting 3mm lifts installed between the bottom of the skate and the LS2 power blade holder. This immediately made a difference balance-wise/feel on the ice, etc.

As far as baking... it's not like buying a new OPS, i.e., getting your skates baked at a LHS isn't all that expensive...why not throw them some business and go ask for their help? I guess if it is a make or break issue...

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I've got no problem taking my skates there and paying them to bake them. I just feel bad going in and asking them to do it considering I didn't buy them from the shop.

TBLfan, thanks for the irrelevant and unhelpful advice. Buying the One90s new at my LHS here in Vancouver would have cost over $900 after taxes. I bought them used 3-4 times off a member here for $250. I'll thank you to keep your holier than thou comments to yourself and I'll put that saved $650 towards my student loan payments.

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Back off, you don't need to get soo defensive. I don't even get where you come off with the "holier than thou comments," it was just a comment. :rolleyes:

And you shouldn't feel bad about taking it in to get them baked, it's what they are there for... services.

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Back off, you don't need to get soo defensive. I don't even get where you come off with the "holier than thou comments," it was just a comment. :rolleyes:

And you shouldn't feel bad about taking it in to get them baked, it's what they are there for... services.

Sorry about that. It seemed like that was one of the typical "don't be a cheap bastard, pay the extra money and support your LHS" comments that are made on a daily basis on the board. It's easy to misinterpret what someone is trying to say when it's written.

As far as feeling guilty for taking them in to be baked, the reason for that is actually the many comments that are made similar to the one I pointed out above. Some members on the board give the impression that if you don't buy everything from the shop, they don't want to deal with you. I do buy almost everything from my LHS, but as I said earlier, when the price difference is $600, customer service and convenience is only worth so much.

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I've got no problem taking my skates there and paying them to bake them. I just feel bad going in and asking them to do it considering I didn't buy them from the shop.

I don't think they "should" mind (although it is an individual perspective....all that) ... you did buy pre-owned and unless they started doing what car manufacturers/dealers do with CPO (certified pre-owned) vehicles... they should completely understand getting pre-owned stuff off individuals, friends, even Ebay, etc. It isn't as though you went and tried on their new stuff and then purchased it off a big mail order warehouse while "stealing their acumen/free advice, etc." The fee for baking helps them out somehow money-wise... and as one of the guys I met at a hockey shop recently said "it gives them something to do in the slow hrs. -- he obviously didn't have Modsquadhockey.com/internet access available to him... but anyhow "Holy S**t" with the CDN prices/taxes ! ..... *ahem* excuse me...

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it's cool man, I understand.

And probably your LHS will understand too. 2 out of the 3 shops(not counting PIAS) here understand about online retailers/ebay and understand that people are going to buy from them... They simply can't compete with the prices. BUT they kindly let you know that the services and knowledge from the shop is worth the extra money.

In fact, before I bought my new skates from the shop I was looking at the 9Ks. The employee that was helping me(I always go to him because he's a good guy and knows a lot... not to mention he's the best sharpener in the area) told me that he just wasn't going to be able to order the 9Ks in my size or any custom order because they were expecting shipments in, he actually told me to check hockeygiant and hockeymonkey... I let him know that I wanted to try them on and make sure and that I'd wait untill I had a chance to buy from them.

Moral of the story, most shops don't really care if you buy online... As long as you don't use them for a fitting service and you treat them right, they'll treat you right. They'll get their money either way. Baking is around $25-$50 and first sharpening is about $25-35 around here. So they aren't loosing a TON of money when you pay for their services that you would have gotten for free.

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