BobMcRobertson 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2007 Is it me or do the footbeds that come from the factory in high-end skates seem flimsey? I was looking at a pair of One90's and the footbed is about equal to a piece of cardboard. How come they can't put a decent footbed in for the price they are charging? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Law Goalie 147 Report post Posted May 24, 2007 Well, for one thing, because it would add to the cost of an already expensive skate.For another, most off-the-shelf footbeds need to be trimmed (eg. Grey Superfeet).For another, anyone who really cares about their footbeds will either have orthotics, or something like the custom-molded Sidas cycling footbeds that Graf is apparently making available through some LHS now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NTKT10 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2007 It's about weight also now. In an attempt to make top of the line skates even lighter, quality footbeds are being abandoned for cheaper lighter versions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeydog 8 Report post Posted May 24, 2007 I like the One90 footbeds. The pro return One90 skates killed my foot, so I ended up in a Nike Quest V9 ( talk about a footbed!) but the One90 footbeds work quite well in them - for me. I have to sell the skates but want to keep the footbeds or find a place to buy more. It is mostly PP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 1 Report post Posted May 24, 2007 But does weight really matter if it sacrifices the quality and fit of the skate? The skates would be lighter if they didn't put tongues or laces on them. If weight has anything to do with it, that's a really lame reason to cheap out on the footbeds. And yes it might add cost, but if they're no good, you have to go out and pay retail price for a pair of footbeds, so it costs you more anyway. I'd rather decent insoles added $5 to the cost of the skate than have to go out and pay $30 retail for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NTKT10 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2007 Weight does matter when each company is trying to make the lightest skate out there. When the difference between competing skates is only a few grams, a lighter footbed can bump you ahead of the competitor. I think most consumers could care less about the weight as long as it feels light...they don't care whether it's 5 grams lighter than last year's model or the competitor's skate. If it's light, it's light. Manufacturers are always competing to make the "best" product, the lightest skate seems to be the current trend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sc37 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2007 Idk if I'd say it's a weight issue as much as the cost. Think it's companies being cheap and throwing some piece a crap in there...but Easton otoh has nicer footbeds (I know they moved away from the ShockDocs, but I'm guessing they're similar) in theirs still and they have what they claim is the lightest skate on the market. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattyBoy 1 Report post Posted May 24, 2007 i put my old 892 tacks footbeds into my vector pros... i think the footbed that came in the vectors was a big pos and far less comfortable than the 892 footbed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NTKT10 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2007 Idk if I'd say it's a weight issue as much as the cost. Think it's companies being cheap and throwing some piece a crap in there...but Easton otoh has nicer footbeds (I know they moved away from the ShockDocs, but I'm guessing they're similar) in theirs still and they have what they claim is the lightest skate on the market.I agree. It's obviously more profitable to sell a skate with a $5 footbed than a $15 footbed at the same price. The company believes that many people will be satisfied with the footbed and those who aren't can easily swap it out themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
epstud74 24 Report post Posted May 24, 2007 Idk if I'd say it's a weight issue as much as the cost. Think it's companies being cheap and throwing some piece a crap in there...but Easton otoh has nicer footbeds (I know they moved away from the ShockDocs, but I'm guessing they're similar) in theirs still and they have what they claim is the lightest skate on the market.I agree. It's obviously more profitable to sell a skate with a $5 footbed than a $15 footbed at the same price. The company believes that many people will be satisfied with the footbed and those who aren't can easily swap it out themselves.I know people prefer Superfeet to the Shock Doctors, but I prefer the Shock Doctors to the SuperFeet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 1 Report post Posted May 24, 2007 Idk if I'd say it's a weight issue as much as the cost. Think it's companies being cheap and throwing some piece a crap in there...but Easton otoh has nicer footbeds (I know they moved away from the ShockDocs, but I'm guessing they're similar) in theirs still and they have what they claim is the lightest skate on the market.I agree. It's obviously more profitable to sell a skate with a $5 footbed than a $15 footbed at the same price. The company believes that many people will be satisfied with the footbed and those who aren't can easily swap it out themselves.Even though I know that's what they do, it still doesn't make sense to me - I'd put the best footbeds I could in there to prevent someone from trying on the skate and not buying it because they don't like the way it feels or fits, when a good footbed would make it fit better. And as a consumer, I imagine it would cost the manufacturer maybe a dollar or two per footbed to buy them in the volume they would to put them in every skate. Compared to the 20-30 dollars it would cost me to buy them retail, I'd rather they just add those couple of bucks to the cost of the skate - add the cost of the footbed to the cost of the skate with little or no markup on the premise that better footbeds will produce a better fit, and a better customer impression on the overall quality of the skate and the company itself - and therefore, sell more skates as a result of that little extra work. I don't think there'd be enough change in the cost to make that a 'sticker shock' thing - if I'm already paying $600 or something for a pair of skates, I'd rather pay $605 and not have to replace part of them at my own expense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remman 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2007 Trace your footbed on a piece of military issue iso-mat(sleeping mat), and insert. Best footbed ever... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slapshotsteve73 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2007 My Vapor XXX footbeds were so thin at the balls of my feet that i had to chop up and old Dr.Scholls cushioning shoe insole and tape it underneath, however now they're butta! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatwabbit 93 Report post Posted May 26, 2007 remman, great idea!those mats are damn comfy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remman 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2007 The screws or whatever were holding the boot to the holder ripped through the CCM footbed and my socks got holes and ripped up my feet. Once I installed the iso-mat, no problems at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
