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[eric42434224 1]

Tracings plus measurements gives them the closest to a 3-D last if castings aren't uses.

All of the custom skates that I have done for people have been because they needed something that they couldn't with stock skates (and no, it isn't TONGUES.)

I try my best to figure out what stock skate will work, and figure out the problem. If the problem cannot be fixed, then we explore custom ONLY if it can be fixed then.

Regardless, you know where I'm at. I'd have to find out ahead of time if we can do the fitting.

Your foot is 3 dimensional, a tracing is not. Make sense?

Like I said, look at Forsberg. Hes had molds of his feet taken by every manufacturer and had skates made based on those molds and still isnt happy with his skates.

Forsberg's issues have nothing to do with the boot per se - it is what happens when his foot is in the boot.

Look...lets just get right down to the nuts of this, and get it over with, so I dont waste anymore of my, or your, time.

I feel great the way the s15 fits my foot laterally if you know what I mean. But poor depth. Still felt the best BY FAR. I tried on the one95, but that seam and toecap killed me. It seemed like everything else on the boot, aside from a little extra width in certain placed, fit great, and if I remember the depth was better too.

Is it possible to have the lateral/horizontal inside the boot to be more like the s15, with perhaps a wider toecap, and maybe material over the seam in a boot that fits me depth wise, and is a good performance, relatively durable, and appropriately stiff?

In short, can the say 0ne95 (just an example) be custom made to fit as comfy, or better, than the s15.....and provide better depth and durability?

[TBLfan 25]

Quickest example I could think of. Personally, I think Forsberg and Eric should just cut off their feet and strap skates to the nub.

[JR Boucicaut 3801]

The custom skate will be made to the dimensions of YOUR foot, not the S15. They're not going to knock off a S15 and call it a day.

[eric42434224 1]

Quickest example I could think of. Personally, I think Forsberg and Eric should just cut off their feet and strap skates to the nub.

You know, that would be hilarious if this wasnt affecting my enjoyment of Hockey. I am so glad I started to play again, and love it....but imagine if you couldnt find a skate that FITS. It is extremely frustrating and time consuming. I appreciate your responses, but a little empathy would be nice.

I take this very serious, and want to have skates that truly fit properly. Is it too much to ask to have a skate that fits in width, depth, and not have pain due to unfixable hot spots, all in one skate?

Or should I just shut-up and just deal with a skate that only has one or two properly fitting areas instead of all of them.

[TBLfan 25]

But like we said, custom might not be perfect and it might not be any better than a retail skate that is adjusted(baked) to fit you.

Relax man, I'm not going to hold your hand and talk to you about rainbows and unicorns. I've had uncomfortable skates, it sucks but it's not the end of the world.

[eric42434224 1]

The custom skate will be made to the dimensions of YOUR foot, not the S15. They're not going to knock off a S15 and call it a day.

So essentially they will fit BETTER than the s15, especially since I have depth issues with the s15.

I dont one single reason except time and money not to go custom.

Maybe you will find me a skate that fits me off the rack, or one that can be tweaked right there in the LHS.....and I would thank the heavens.

But if you see,and measure my feet, and realize that there isnt a skate of the rack that will TRULY fit me properly, isnt it the best and most prudent course of action to get custom and have ALL the aspects of a skate fit?

[JR Boucicaut 3801]

But like we said, custom might not be perfect and it might not be any better than a retail skate that is adjusted(baked) to fit you.

Okay, I'm just going to end this.

If you are serious about it, come see me. Simple as that. I can provide more insight than all of those stores you visited. Guaranteed.

When you finish seeing me, you will have an answer. Not everyone can tell you that.

The custom skate will be made to the dimensions of YOUR foot, not the S15. They're not going to knock off a S15 and call it a day.

So essentially they will fit BETTER than the s15, especially since I have depth issues with the s15.

I dont one single reason except time and money not to go custom.

Maybe you will find me a skate that fits me off the rack, or one that can be tweaked right there in the LHS.....and I would thank the heavens.

But if you see,and measure my feet, and realize that there isnt a skate of the rack that will TRULY fit me properly, isnt it the best and most prudent course of action to get custom and have ALL the aspects of a skate fit?

Yes.

[eric42434224 1]

But like we said, custom might not be perfect and it might not be any better than a retail skate that is adjusted(baked) to fit you.

Relax man, I'm not going to hold your hand and talk to you about rainbows and unicorns. I've had uncomfortable skates, it sucks but it's not the end of the world.

You have had uncomfortable skates....we all ahve....but I am assuming you also found skates that really fit.

I havent. Why not take the skate that comes closest to fitting me, and custom tweak it to fit perfect.

On my daughters life, if I could find a skate off the rack that the LHS could tweak, I would be all over it.

Maybe I am missing something, or maybe my LHS's are.....but I havent found one yet.

You dont have to hold my hand, but I think you just cant understand my situation, and I cant understand your resistance to a possible solution in customs.

But like we said, custom might not be perfect and it might not be any better than a retail skate that is adjusted(baked) to fit you.

Okay, I'm just going to end this.

If you are serious about it, come see me. Simple as that. I can provide more insight than all of those stores you visited. Guaranteed.

When you finish seeing me, you will have an answer. Not everyone can tell you that.

The custom skate will be made to the dimensions of YOUR foot, not the S15. They're not going to knock off a S15 and call it a day.

So essentially they will fit BETTER than the s15, especially since I have depth issues with the s15.

I dont one single reason except time and money not to go custom.

Maybe you will find me a skate that fits me off the rack, or one that can be tweaked right there in the LHS.....and I would thank the heavens.

But if you see,and measure my feet, and realize that there isnt a skate of the rack that will TRULY fit me properly, isnt it the best and most prudent course of action to get custom and have ALL the aspects of a skate fit?

Yes.

I am VERY serious, and I wont waste your time.

PM me and tell me when and where is the most convenient to see you, as well as what you feel is fair compensation.

Getting a skate that truly fits me perfect is worth the time and money, and if you can help (it seems you are the guy who can) one way or the other (retail, or custom) then I am in. I can pay right there and then, and later sell off my 1500's on ebay or something.

Thanks SO fing much for your help.

E

...Because more than likely you can solve your problem off the shelf. I dont care if you get custom skates but there is probably no need for them.

This whole thread was you saying "I need custom skates" I was telling you that you probably don't. Or would you rather us lie to you and say that you MUST have custom skates?

TBL< I appreciate your input, and I think we are on the same page here. If JR can find the retail boot, and have it tweaked in the LHS, and it can truly fit me properly, then I am 100% for that....I will buy them on the spot and compensate JR for his assistance. If he cant, and I think you agree that if JR cant find the skate to truly fit me then no one can, he will fit me for customs. It is a win win, and I will feel that I have truly exhausted all my options before getting customs.

I just do not have the knowledge or resources around me to get a properly fitting pair of skates off the rack. If JR can do it, the I am all set...no need for customs, and you would be right....but I need his expertise to do that. Believe me, I would rather have a retail skate truly fit me than customs.

Perhaps I should have titled this thread, "I need JRs help", and not that my only option is custom.

again, thanks for your input....much appreciated.

[hockeysc23 0]

It seems you are trying to rationalize custom skates. Well then just go to JR or try them and stop waiting for us to tell you thats your only option.

[eric42434224 1]

It seems you are trying to rationalize custom skates. Well then just go to JR or try them and stop waiting for us to tell you thats your only option.

Please read the thread, as you obviously havent. It has been decided that I will get JR's assistance in attempting to find a skate off the rack and tweak it to fit properly (all around fit, not just certain aspects).....and if that isnt possible (If JR cant find one, then it likely doesnt exist), I will do custom.

Believe me, I will be estatic to get a retail skate to fit properly, and hopefully he can find it. Id rather not have to get measured, pay extra, and wait longer....but if JR feels that is my only option that just what I gotta do.

I know customs arent my only option, or at least we wont know until we can rule out the retail skates.

I think that sums it up. I just need JR's expertise thats all.

[hockeysc23 0]

It seems you are trying to rationalize custom skates. Well then just go to JR or try them and stop waiting for us to tell you thats your only option.

Please read the thread, as you obviously havent. It has been decided that I will get JR's assistance in attempting to find a skate off the rack and tweak it to fit properly (all around fit, not just certain aspects).....and if that isnt possible (If JR cant find one, then it likely doesnt exist), I will do custom.

Believe me, I will be estatic to get a retail skate to fit properly, and hopefully he can find it. Id rather not have to get measured, pay extra, and wait longer....but if JR feels that is my only option that just what I gotta do.

I know customs arent my only option, or at least we wont know until we can rule out the retail skates.

I think that sums it up. I just need JR's expertise thats all.

Wrong. I read all 4 pages of the mindless conversation. Everytime someone offered a solution you said why not custom? Or immediately dismissed the idea that wasn't custom.

You want custom skates. It seems you can afford it. So go to JR or whoever you like and get it done. You don't need a board of people on the internet to confirm your thoughts if you believe that is the right and only course of action.

[eric42434224 1]

It seems you are trying to rationalize custom skates. Well then just go to JR or try them and stop waiting for us to tell you thats your only option.

Please read the thread, as you obviously havent. It has been decided that I will get JR's assistance in attempting to find a skate off the rack and tweak it to fit properly (all around fit, not just certain aspects).....and if that isnt possible (If JR cant find one, then it likely doesnt exist), I will do custom.

Believe me, I will be estatic to get a retail skate to fit properly, and hopefully he can find it. Id rather not have to get measured, pay extra, and wait longer....but if JR feels that is my only option that just what I gotta do.

I know customs arent my only option, or at least we wont know until we can rule out the retail skates.

I think that sums it up. I just need JR's expertise thats all.

Wrong. I read all 4 pages of the mindless conversation. Everytime someone offered a solution you said why not custom? Or immediately dismissed the idea that wasn't custom.

You want custom skates. It seems you can afford it. So go to JR or whoever you like and get it done. You don't need a board of people on the internet to confirm your thoughts if you believe that is the right and only course of action.

I didnt think retail was an option, but by JR telling me he could help me get retail or rule it out, I realized that custom wasnt the only course of action....it might still be in the end.

[JR Boucicaut 3801]

We're done here. You know the solution. Hell, you KNEW the solution a month ago when you contacted me and I told you I was in Orlando.

[mxihockey 0]

I'm gunna have to side with hockeysc on this. It seemed like all you wanted was someone to tell you that you have to get customs. If you have the money go for it. Otherwise, man up break in a of skates.

[JR Boucicaut 3801]

Goddamnit, what part of "WE'RE DONE HERE" don't you guys get?

This is obviously a situation that people feel the need to get the last word in.

I told him to see me a month ago, and he bought two skates since. Like I said, he knows the solution. It is up to him whether or not he chooses to pursue it.

[eric42434224 1]

Goddamnit, what part of "WE'RE DONE HERE" don't you guys get?

This is obviously a situation that people feel the need to get the last word in.

I told him to see me a month ago, and he bought two skates since. Like I said, he knows the solution. It is up to him whether or not he chooses to pursue it.

Only one...the 1500 last night, as I had to give up the s15s before warranty was up. But that is a moot point.

When are you available?

[JR Boucicaut 3801]

Thought you bought 9ks...

Regardless...

Probably Tuesday evenings. Only time I can really go over there. I will find out if they have your size.

[eric42434224 1]

I'm gunna have to side with hockeysc on this. It seemed like all you wanted was someone to tell you that you have to get customs. If you have the money go for it. Otherwise, man up break in a of skates.

I can see where that may be how some see it, and it may be partially the truth. I sincerely thought retail wasnt an option anymore....but with JR's expertise perhaps retail can still be the solution. That still doesnt warrant a negative post by hockeysc. It was, and still is a legitimate problem I have, and though it took a while, I think I have my course of action.

And I dont mind "Manning up" and breaking a skate in....as long as the skate fits properly. My issue is that I dont believ I have found one that does.

Thought you bought 9ks...

Regardless...

Probably Tuesday evenings. Only time I can really go over there. I will find out if they have your size.

Yes...the 9ks...right. I bought them from inline warehouse and returned them, needed to see if they fit, but I couldnt bake them to really see for sure.

I really hope that your knowledge will put me in a retail skate.....I will be embarrased, but at least I will know I have a properly fitting skate for sure.

Tuesday is fine for me, pm me with any details.

[eric42434224 1]

Perhaps these pictures can illustrate and confirm my fitting issues (or debunk them, who knows)

First three are my feet, and the last 2 are the skate. Perhaps this can help you with choosing retail skates for me to try.

[eric42434224 1]

So with pictures of my foot, and pictures of my foot in a size 9 Easton 1500, are there any comments? Are my feet considered wide and deep? I am also 6ft and 210lbs. What boots would/should be the first to look at retail and try to tweak at the LHS?

[NoAngleDangler 0]

...Are you serious? Stop asking people their opinions when you have been told and conculded yourself that it would be best to go see JR for a fitting. No one can truly comment on your foot or skates that would work for you without seeing your feet in person.

[eric42434224 1]

...Are you serious? Stop asking people their opinions when you have been told and conculded yourself that it would be best to go see JR for a fitting. No one can truly comment on your foot or skates that would work for you without seeing your feet in person.

No, I think you misunderstand. I was posting those pictures for the benefit of JR in hopes that they might give him an idea of which skates to try when I go see him. I want to use the least amount of his time, and thought this might help. Read the posts again with the idea that they were for JR, and not for trying to get an opinion from anyone else. If the posts were not useful in anyway, then no harm no foul...no big deal, OK?

[JR Boucicaut 3801]

Based on those pictures, I wouldn't have put you in any of those skates that you have tried on or bought.

We'll discuss it next week. I have options.

[eric42434224 1]

Based on those pictures, I wouldn't have put you in any of those skates that you have tried on or bought.

We'll discuss it next week. I have options.

I am glad the pictures helped, and I am glad my dilema is valid, and not just in my head! LOL

I am very excited to finally get skates that fit.

PM me back when you are ready....and thanks.

[eric42434224 1]

Based on those pictures, I wouldn't have put you in any of those skates that you have tried on or bought.

We'll discuss it next week. I have options.

Im getting Grafs arent I?

LOL....should I get my ref's uniform now?

j/k