how much to shorten

[weaver2469 0]

I have been thinking of experimenting with shortening my stick some. I currently play with a lie angle of 5, and have even tape wear, so I think 5 is perfect. If I go shorter, will the lie need to be closer to 5.5? Is there some type of formula for figuring this out? For example, if I take off 2 inches, will this raise the lie to 5.5? 3 inches? Or am I mistaken about the theory that shorter sticks require higher lies? I ask because I have a woodie ignlia that is 5.5 that is going to be my test stick and I want to know how much to take off. Any thoughts?

[interpathway 9]

Every lie adjustment (5 to 6 for example) closes the angle 2-3 degrees (someone verify which one?). So going to a 5.5 lie would be a 1-1.5 degree adjustment. I'd say that going from a 5 to a 5.5 lie might need you to take off about 2 inches, but why not start at one inch and work your way shorter? Hope this helps.

[SolarWind 23]

the answer obviously (from geometry) depends on the overall lenght of the stick - taking 2" off 60" stick would change the angle a lot less comparing to taking 2" off junior 46" stick.

so since you didn't even say whether it's a senior, jr or youth stick I don't think it's possible to answer this.

one thing certain - from wiki:

"The lie of a stick refers to the angle between the shaft and the blade. A lie value of 5 corresponds to a 135° angle, and each additional lie value corresponds to a 2° smaller angle."

[weaver2469 0]

I wasn't a math major (obviously) but I think 135 degrees and 45 degrees are the same thing, depending on whether or not you measure from the blades side or the heel side. I was more wondering about the effect of shortening the stick. (senior stick by the way). My assumption is that the shortening will bring the blade closer to my feet for stickhandling closer to the body, but that it would raise the heel somewhat. The higher lofted stick is meant to compensate. Does that make sense? I think I will just put on skates, slide my hands down a couple of inches and see if the blade sits flat. I guess that is where to cut?

[SolarWind 23]

I wasn't a math major (obviously) but I think 135 degrees and 45 degrees are the same thing, depending on whether or not you measure from the blades side or the heel side. I was more wondering about the effect of shortening the stick. (senior stick by the way). My assumption is that the shortening will bring the blade closer to my feet for stickhandling closer to the body, but that it would raise the heel somewhat. The higher lofted stick is meant to compensate. Does that make sense? I think I will just put on skates, slide my hands down a couple of inches and see if the blade sits flat. I guess that is where to cut?

first off 135 & 45 are the same thing just different sides - I never said they aren't so what does it have to do with anything?

secondly - taking 2" off 60" stick would change the angle by lesser amount then taking 2" off 46" stick

I had a moment & did a quick math:

if you take 2" off 60" stick then the original angle of 135 degrees would become 133 so a lie changes by 1

if you do the same for 48" stick then 135 becomes 132.5

the difference turned to be only half a degree

[weaver2469 0]

Thanks for the input. The 135 v 45 degree comment was directed at a post that was deleted between the time I read it and the time I responded.(I didn't know you could do that) I think it was JR? Anyway, no offense intended. :) Thanks for the input. I will start with two inches and see how it works. I guess if the tape wear changes from heel to even, the angle is right for the length. It is an old wood stick anyway, so no harm done if it doesn't work.

[BantamHockey13 0]

How about putting your skates on and just sliding your top hand down the shaft and look at how much the angle changes as you bring the puck closer to your body? At least then you would have a visual of what you would have as an end result. You could see how much the heel lifts off the ground. Not much science involved, but no cutting until it looks and feels correct.

[habsfan87 0]

I wouldn't suggest hacking off 2" right away, I never usually take off more than 1/2" at a time and even then i can feel the difference.

[Jarick 5]

I would also do the 1/2" thing. I have two sticks at the same length, one 5 lie, one 5.5, and there's a dramatic difference in how long they feel. If it's just a wood stick though, I wouldn't worry about it as much.

[habsfan87 0]

I would also do the 1/2" thing. I have two sticks at the same length, one 5 lie, one 5.5, and there's a dramatic difference in how long they feel. If it's just a wood stick though, I wouldn't worry about it as much.

not to hijack the thread but which lie feels shorter to you in this case?

[Jarick 5]

I would also do the 1/2" thing. I have two sticks at the same length, one 5 lie, one 5.5, and there's a dramatic difference in how long they feel. If it's just a wood stick though, I wouldn't worry about it as much.

not to hijack the thread but which lie feels shorter to you in this case?

5.5 lie. I know in theory with a shorter stick a higher lie gives you more blade on the ice, but I'm thinking about when I reach way out with one hand to grab a pass that is off the mark (unfortunately common for my level). The low lie seems to extend the stick when stretched out and the higher lie comes off the ice too much at the toe.

I'm used to it now, but I still feel like it's a bit short sometimes. It's probably better in terms of shooting and puck carrying though.