players that coach

[doodman 0]

The captain on my adult rec league always tries to coach it up during games and in the locker room after games.

(By capt i mean hes the one who signed the team up, that's the extent of his captaincy)

He's very near the bottom of the team in skill and constantly makes mistakes. In short, he's a D-man who has no idea what he's doing.

Yet he is always specifically telling players what they need to do. I'm not even saying he's wrong, but there's so much wrong with his game he could use a few pointers himself.

I'm one of the better players on the team. I know I make mistakes and I know I've alot to learn, but I'm pretty hard on myself and don't appreciate this guy at all.

Any input would be appreciated.

[TBLfan 25]

Ignore him or laugh it off. Why let him get to you?

[eric42434224 1]

^^^ +1

He is likely compensating for his lack of skill thinking he is contributing to the team with advice.

I bet he doesnt truly realize what he is doing is annoying.

Next time he does it, just try to think how he probably feels shitty because he isnt very good, and that is probably magnified by wearing the "C".

That will help his "coaching" slide off your back easier.

[JohnnyCanuck 0]

1. You don't want to bring up the fact that his actions are unwanted/annoying in front of the guys, take him aside for a beer after the game and let him know, communication is the key!

2. He maybe feels a responsibility to do this stuff, if he signed up the team and is the guy that handles the administration of the team perhaps he feels obligated to do this.

3. Every team needs a leader(s) and leadership is often times what makes good teams good and bad teams bad. I have played on teams that have half the skill level of other teams, but the team as a whole got along well and had excellent leadership and we would whack teams with more skill than us. Is this guy a good leader?

4. Are you alone in your assertion that this guy is annoying?

In short, take the guy aside and tell him how you feel, and offer a solution, don't just tell him you think he is an idiot, or you may be looking for a new team to play on.

I have "Run" a few of my teams in the past and it is not easy, and it is often the case that players on the team don't understand how much extra work it is to ensure that team fees are collected, league meetings are attended, scoresheets are filled out correctly, insurance waivers are completed and turned into the league office etc...Does that make that person Scotty Bowman Incarnate?...No, but perhaps a little understanding is in order.

Just my $0.02

[doodman 0]

Thanks for the replies

anyone else have anything?

I hate to admit its hard for me to accept criticism I guess, especially from someone whos not 'qualified'

[Chadd 916]

The biggest question is this:

Is he right or wrong in what he is telling you?

Obviously we don't know anything about the guy or his style but his ability shouldn't really be as important as the quality of his advice. If the guy is right, but going about it in the wrong way, talk to him after a game and tell him you appreciate his attempts to help but that style doesn't work well for you. If he's wrong, tell him the same thing. If he doesn't stop, find another team. Either way, take the time to review what he has said in an unbiased way. You would be surprised at how often you can learn something from someone with lesser abilities.

[Guitarmy 0]

We have a guy like that on the adult league team I sub for. One of the worst players on the team, but thinks he's Scotty Bowman just because he watches every Sharks game on TV. Every time he tries to give me advice (usually something he heard Drew Remenda, the Sharks color guy say), I just ask him to demonstrate it for me. He usually goes quiet after that.

[doodman 0]

I think guitarmy has the sense of what I'm talking about.

It would help if I gave an example:

During the game, as a Dman this guy would be on the blue line while the puck is in our zone; like a cherry picking Dman i guess...

after the game he might say to me 'You gotta pinch up on that play' or something similar

[Chadd 916]

I think guitman has the sense of what I'm talking about.

It would help if I gave an example:

During the game, as a Dman this guy would be on the blue line while the puck is in our zone; like a cherry picking Dman i guess...

after the game he might say to me 'You gotta pinch up on that play' or something similar

Then either point out the errors of his logic or quit the team.

[RecLeagueHero 0]

Some times you just don't, for whatever reason some people just can't play without doing the coaching bit. There are guys that never got to play when they were kids, but grew up watching, reading, and breathing all things hockey who have a good knowledge of the game inspite of a lack of personal abilities. Then, of course, there are the beginning rec leaguers that pick up things here and there and try to pretend like the know what they're talking about. Either way, for a lot of them, the coaching thing is just part of the experience and they either can't, or won't, knock it off. I suggest just learning to let it go, most rec league teams are going to have the rec league coach.