Canadian hockey vs US hockey

[SirJW 207]

At the Kings facility in Los Angeles it costs 10 for stick time and 15 for pick up.

[youngblack 0]

damn how I wish , its 20 over here

[dontdumpdangle 0]

hahah it cost way more thats great lol.. yea im goin to a re try out for the nj hitmen they play ej... and Il do the home away from home if i make it , but about how much ?

its different from team to team, but id say 7 average. and make sure that they include all travel in the cost. CD is 6, but theres never any bus (took a bus to buffalo but he made us pay 100 beans each) and hotel isnt included. You also have to buy all the team color gear your self (mandatory gloves, bucket, shell/pants, team jacket/pants). Basically its 6000 for ice time (generally 2 practices a week, 3 on occasion). Also we had 6 guys (had 8 at one point) living in a 3 bedroom house that only had one bedroom big enough for 2 guys. Rent was 350 a month and didnt fluxuate when guys came and went. Needless to say, im not playing there again

[youngblack 0]

hahah it cost way more thats great lol.. yea im goin to a re try out for the nj hitmen they play ej... and Il do the home away from home if i make it , but about how much ?

its different from team to team, but id say 7 average. and make sure that they include all travel in the cost. CD is 6, but theres never any bus (took a bus to buffalo but he made us pay 100 beans each) and hotel isnt included. You also have to buy all the team color gear your self (mandatory gloves, bucket, shell/pants, team jacket/pants). Basically its 6000 for ice time (generally 2 practices a week, 3 on occasion). Also we had 6 guys (had 8 at one point) living in a 3 bedroom house that only had one bedroom big enough for 2 guys. Rent was 350 a month and didnt fluxuate when guys came and went. Needless to say, im not playing there again

ye I gotta see about the travel cost , and the team equipment is gunna blow. But if I make it and need a white helmet Il get the 4k and NBH supreme something , so that they are black and baby blue=]] and if I do home aaway from home Il be living with another players family during the school year, and will be goin to school there.

[K9 Unit 1]

believe me its not cheaper to play in canada lol

What does it cost to play Open in Toronto where I see you are from? The reason I ask is that I was playing an Open game in NYC a few months ago at cost of 30 bucks. The Colorado Avalanche were practicing in the adjacent rink as they were in town to play the Rangers the next night. Our game ended same time as their practice and we all crossed paths in the dressing rooms afterwards. Shop-talk ensued. One of the Avs player from Canada was astounded that we had to pay 30 bucks for Open. He said where he is from it is like 7.50 CAD to play. I'm not sure where he was from in Canada exactly. But now you got me curious. What does it cost to play Open in a big city like Toronto, or Montreal?

The average price for a pick up/shinny game in the Toronto area is $10. At some of the city owned rinks you can play pick up/shinny for $4.55. That's about the same price as a large coffee at Starbucks. :D

lol i go agincourt...its free xP

i'm talking equipment prices etc etc.

[youngblack 0]

I wish there was like a group of canadian kids here that I could play against lmao

[epstud74 24]

Are you really laughing?

[youngblack 0]

Are you really laughing?

no, just a habbit

[Jordan 13]

just played against some kids from the world junior team (canada) at the pre draft and i wasnt impressed.

You're kidding ...right? You say that they are not good hockey players and yet they won the world junior title and most of them have been or will be drafted.

You better be pretty damned good yourself to make those claims...where were you drafted?

[Esa_10 1]

On a whole Canadian hockey is obviously head and shoulders above the US and any other country at any level.

Sure there are American teams and players that are better than Canadian teams and players, but overall Canadian hockey is head and shoulders above.

The reverse could be said for most other sports, baseball, basketball, football, etc.

[sickwilly 37]

It depends so much on where you play, your competition, coaching, amount of ice time, etc. I think that as a whole, Canada's still well ahead, but that the US is catching up (with a ways to go).

Hockey's so much a part of the culture in Canada, as compared to being just another sport in the US. It seems like a much higher percent of top athletes play hockey in Canada than in the US. I live on the border of rural NB.... which isn't generally the 1st province you think of as a hockey hotbed. Even so, there is a surprising number of really skilled, intelligent players - even in an area without much population. I think that there are only a few regions like this in the US, versus a whole country in Canada.

I certainly think that it matters a whole lot less where you're from now than it did 20-30 years ago.

One thing that I love about Canada that I haven't heard a lot about in the US is senior hockey. Maybe I've lived in the wrong areas. It's pretty big in parts of rural NB. Great chance to keep playing a bit after school/juniors.

[dontdumpdangle 0]

just played against some kids from the world junior team (canada) at the pre draft and i wasnt impressed.

You're kidding ...right? You say that they are not good hockey players and yet they won the world junior title and most of them have been or will be drafted.

You better be pretty damned good yourself to make those claims...where were you drafted?

Wow bro my bad, I forgot that you couldn't read. Maybe have another look at what i wrote

[Law Goalie 147]

Senior A (ie. Allen Cup level) hockey is really, really good. It's the closest thing I've observed to true amateur athletics, since the guys still put loads of time into their training and play, but have full lives and jobs outside the game (albeit often in related businesses). CIS hockey comes close, too, which is another dramatic difference between Canadian and Amerian hockey: at the university level, hockey is effectively professional in the US (large sums of money at stake, if not actually in salary, with a career beyond) and still ardently amateur up here.

For the last few years, there's also been a phenomenal amateur hockey tournament in Toronto called the CMHA: the Canadian Multi-Cultural Hockey Association. Basically, teams are formed around broad racial groups (Russians, Poles, Czechs, Scots, Irish, etc.) from the best players available. Goalies are the only ones exempt from the background check: the Japanese goalie last year was an enormous black guy called Tony Marshall who has an Allen Cup under his belt courtesy of Brantford. It's terrific hockey, and there's a tremendous community impetus behind it.

[Jordan 13]

Wow bro my bad, I forgot that you couldn't read. Maybe have another look at what i wrote

I read just fine, thanks. Maybe it's you that had better re-read what you wrote...knucklehead!

[oggy_3 0]

Being a Canadian and actually seeing the differences i find the biggest differences in the hockey are:

- In Jr A Tier II(NOT Q, W or O) we dont play to pay and get some "allowances" depending on how much money your team brings in and what league. Opposite of the EJ, IJ, and other leagues where players pay up to 10G to play one season.

- In the Q players can make big money, compared to the NCAA where your getting a level 1 education but really if a player wants after there major junior career can move on to university level education from some high quality canadian schools.

- In the JR leagues in the states there was always the thought that you have more ncaa scouting but now i notice that alot of scouts are still in the ontario and western areas but are also starting to move east to the Maritime and the Quebec jr league

I play jr A now and have played with and against players who have played in the states and they seem to enjoy the canadian jr life style better.

[dsjunior1388 81]

I was just curious about the Canadian attitude towards international Hockey. Maybe I'm off-base, but it seems like a large contingent of Canadians do not like the direction the game is headed as far as russians, swedes, finns etc. catching up to the number of Canadians in the NHL. It's odd to see, especially as an american, where "our" games: basketball, baseball and football, wich were invented here, are becoming more international, and we really don't have a problem with it. I just wonder where most of the Canadians stand on the issue, if mos are among the "Cherry school" that basically thinks other countries don't play the game right and all of that, or whether most are eager to see talent regardless of origin.

[JJ Thompson94 0]

Hey Jmiami, I can't believe you pay 30 to play at chelsea. I play for NYU out there plus I know Ronnie so I get comped for Open. I'd never pay $30 for Open. It's a joke. Aviator has a better schedule and atleast only 20.

It goes back to the fact that hockey is the biggest sport in canada. Everybody picks up a stick in canada, there is a larger group of athletes that have a chance to excel at hockey. Just like every kid in america picks up a basketball, there is a larger group of athletes with a chance to excel at basketball.

Just look at the potential rosters for the olympics. The canadians potential 4th line could be a #1 line on an NHL team. I don't think the same could be said of the US fourth line. The Canadians have an All-star team where amazing players will get left off just because there will be no room. The US will have players that would never even be considered for team canada. It's not to say the US can't win. It's still a team game. But the Canadians are so much better.

I'm sure that there are canadian players worse than me, just like I'm sure there are canadians better than me at basketball. The NHL, the best players in the world are the best way to tell which country produces better players in general.

PS: Look at Kane and Toews. Kane will be a first line player called on to score and help lead the US to victory. Toews might not even make the canadian team. It's sad but true.

[K9 Unit 1]

I was just curious about the Canadian attitude towards international Hockey. Maybe I'm off-base, but it seems like a large contingent of Canadians do not like the direction the game is headed as far as russians, swedes, finns etc. catching up to the number of Canadians in the NHL. It's odd to see, especially as an american, where "our" games: basketball, baseball and football, wich were invented here, are becoming more international, and we really don't have a problem with it. I just wonder where most of the Canadians stand on the issue, if mos are among the "Cherry school" that basically thinks other countries don't play the game right and all of that, or whether most are eager to see talent regardless of origin.

personally as a canadian i don't mind euro's in fact being a leafs fan half our team or more is euro...its the fact that there tends to be more stuck up lil cocky turds like the kostistyn (however you spell) brothers that are euro and ruin the game (no offense to any euro's)

[BigT 4]

just played against some kids from the world junior team (canada) at the pre draft and i wasnt impressed.

You're kidding ...right? You say that they are not good hockey players and yet they won the world junior title and most of them have been or will be drafted.

You better be pretty damned good yourself to make those claims...where were you drafted?

I've got to agree with this. You sure you typed that out right? You must be a pretty unreal player...

[JJ Thompson94 0]

just played against some kids from the world junior team (canada) at the pre draft and i wasnt impressed.

You're kidding ...right? You say that they are not good hockey players and yet they won the world junior title and most of them have been or will be drafted.

You better be pretty damned good yourself to make those claims...where were you drafted?

I've got to agree with this. You sure you typed that out right? You must be a pretty unreal player...

when I was 8 I skated with Alex Kovalev and I was just not impressed. I don't think those russians know how to play hockey. They should stick with Bandy.

[dontdumpdangle 0]

Wow bro my bad, I forgot that you couldn't read. Maybe have another look at what i wrote

I read just fine, thanks. Maybe it's you that had better re-read what you wrote...knucklehead!

haha, i said that they were all solid players, but when I think world junior team I think of all the BIG names that have went through that program and I didnt think that any of them were up to par with the reputation of team canada. They did beat us 7-1 though haha

[jmiami 4]

Hey Jmiami, I can't believe you pay 30 to play at chelsea. I play for NYU out there plus I know Ronnie so I get comped for Open. I'd never pay $30 for Open. It's a joke. Aviator has a better schedule and atleast only 20.

It goes back to the fact that hockey is the biggest sport in canada. Everybody picks up a stick in canada, there is a larger group of athletes that have a chance to excel at hockey. Just like every kid in america picks up a basketball, there is a larger group of athletes with a chance to excel at basketball.

Just look at the potential rosters for the olympics. The canadians potential 4th line could be a #1 line on an NHL team. I don't think the same could be said of the US fourth line. The Canadians have an All-star team where amazing players will get left off just because there will be no room. The US will have players that would never even be considered for team canada. It's not to say the US can't win. It's still a team game. But the Canadians are so much better.

I'm sure that there are canadian players worse than me, just like I'm sure there are canadians better than me at basketball. The NHL, the best players in the world are the best way to tell which country produces better players in general.

PS: Look at Kane and Toews. Kane will be a first line player called on to score and help lead the US to victory. Toews might not even make the canadian team. It's sad but true.

Yeah 30 it is for Chelsea. But if you get 10 pack I think it's comes out to like 22 per session. Aviator indeed has much more flexible times and is only 20. I love it there and often go. With Chelsea though I can get my hockey fix taken care of under 2 hours door to door as I live in Manhattan. Brooklyn obviously a longer drive.

So you play for my alma mater eh? I graduated the year before they started a program. How do you like playing there? I can't believe with all the money NYU has that they can't even muster up a Div 3 team, if not Div 1. It seems every week they are building some new building for God knows what. Would it kill 'em to build a hockey rink? And ACHA is pay-to-play right? What do they bang you for? On top of tuition...doesn't seem right. Is there some reason that I'm not aware of why they are not even Div 3? Maybe you know something I don't.

[epstud74 24]

On a whole Canadian hockey is obviously head and shoulders above the US and any other country at any level.

Then what do you make of the best players in the NHL being Europeans? Malkin? Zetterberg? Ovechkin? Lidstrom? Kovalchuk? Look at the freaking Detroit Red Wings..best team in the NHL and they're basically a European team.

4 of the top 5 in the playoffs are Europeans..either Russians or Swedes.

You got guys like Nash or Carter that will score 40 goals, but they lack the electrifying skill that Malkin or Ovechkin possess.

[tonguesOUT4life 17]

On a whole Canadian hockey is obviously head and shoulders above the US and any other country at any level.

Then what do you make of the best players in the NHL being Europeans? Malkin? Zetterberg? Ovechkin? Lidstrom? Kovalchuk? Look at the freaking Detroit Red Wings..best team in the NHL and they're basically a European team.

4 of the top 5 in the playoffs are Europeans..either Russians or Swedes.

You got guys like Nash or Carter that will score 40 goals, but they lack the electrifying skill that Malkin or Ovechkin possess.

ill bet you any money if crosby nash carter or richards wanted to show off they would put up "electrifying" performances out there. but canadians grow up being taught that hockey is a team game and having to listen to don cherry every saturday night growing up, "hot dogging" is not acceptable. see the pass from crosby to adams on the empty netter tonight? very selfless play. ovechkin would fire it away just to keep his point streak going.

[thorpedo26 0]

Being that hockey seems to be more of a "tradition" in canada then it is in the usa i would say that they have the advantage as far as haveing MORE great players goes. Thats not to say america doesnt produce good players either though