Help with Heel Lifts

[oldtrainerguy28 478]

i'm not gonna argue that equipment and setup will make you faster, but perhaps more efficient. in some sense, you could say that does make you faster, but thats not the point i'm trying to make.

i would argue though, that a hockey start is very similar to sprinting, except for the toes being pointed outwards. there is a definitely a similarity in that there is no heel contact in both, and most of the power comes from a thrust through the balls of the feet.

Thats a horrible video...LOL maybe not bad back in the day but wow!...LOL

[adam14 182]

If it kills you that much, throw on Epros with the fusion steel. Problem solved.

[gxc999 7]

Sprinting is not like accelerating in hockey--there are some similarities in having forward lean but biomechanically they are different. Think about how many great skaters over the years there have been that have been on Custom+, old school holders, etc. I think it's all personal preference. Skates and lifts don't make you faster--your skating technique, your off ice workout routine and sometimes even genetics are a bigger contributer.

Man, we must've been separated at birth :)

[jsykes 35]

Think about how many great skaters over the years there have been that have been on Custom+, old school holders, etc. I think it's all personal preference.

Right. Are you familiar with the gear used by all those great skaters? Do you know they did not have forward profiled steel or heel lifts under their Custom+ holders?

You dont know for sure. For all we know, many could be using something completely different than what those stock skates were set up like.

But you are right in that its personal preference. I dont think anyone implied that lifts will make anyone faster. However, if you're used to a forward pitch skate there is nothing wrong with trying to get the same feel out of a different set of skates.

[Wolfpack_1986 154]

    A real critical part of being fast is getting yourself on your toes and leaning forward. How could using something to do this for you be as good as having your own strong technique? I can understand if you're talking about being a full -1, okay, that's making you overcompensate, but if you're comparing neutral to +2, you're having material/equipment doing the work your body should be doing, e.g. you're not maximizing your stance so you aren't involving as many muscles. Nobody else sees the validity in this, even if only from a theoretical standpoint?   

why do work when equipment can do it for you... i can skate with weights on my skates and really make my muscles work, but i dont because it's stupid.

[JR Boucicaut 3805]

Right. Are you familiar with the gear used by all those great skaters? Do you know they did not have forward profiled steel or heel lifts under their Custom+ holders?

You dont know for sure. For all we know, many could be using something completely different than what those stock skates were set up like.

But you are right in that its personal preference. I dont think anyone implied that lifts will make anyone faster. However, if you're used to a forward pitch skate there is nothing wrong with trying to get the same feel out of a different set of skates.

Thank you.

Those who know me and have worked with me know that I never sell a concept onto someone. I always profile or pitch skates to work for the skater, not to give him a perceived edge.

[Lumberjack23 0]

I'm in a Graf 735 with LS2 holders.

If I was to pick up a pair of One95s, and wanted to maintain the exact same pitch as my current setup, what would I require?

I'm in a similar situation in that I've been skating on Graf G3's with LS2 holders and just acquired a pair of TotalOnes. What would it take to duplicate the feel of my Grafs on my new TO's? I plan to skate on the TO's for the rest of the week, after which I will make a decision as to how they feel. However, I would like to know a possible remedy to the problem if in fact I don't like the pitch on the TO's.

[lbgmike 0]

JR,

So on my Vapor 40's, whiwhich I believe have a -1 pitch from the factory, all I would have to do is profile to +1 to get to neutral again. This will give me the same results as adding a 1/32 heal shim. Is this correct?