stick kick points

[Chadd 916]

They key to using a lighter flex is to focus more on going through the puck on the shot and less down into the ice. Yes, you still need some down force to load the stick, but if you just hammer straight down you will just break sticks. You need to be able to feel the stick bend as it loads. If you use the same stick long enough, you will learn when it you are right at the limits and that's when you get the hardest shots.

[bubaloo 6]

Thanks for all the helpful advice guys. Cant wait to get out there today and give it a try. Gonna really try and focus on using the stick not my power. Might have to bite the bullet and play with it all game and get a good feel for it

[bubaloo 6]

could just be me but it cant be done lol.

My beiksa pro stock "total one " 107 flex vs s19 pro stock 85 flex last night both game and after had 15 minutes to play around

I tried man different shooting techniques and tries and I must say if you big strong and can load a higher flex the low flexes just feel like a kids plastic stick I used in grade school for floor hockey haha

Shooting with the 107 flex I can bomb shots. Snappers and slappers. Wrist shots need a big drag but they are pretty heavy aswell. Not fast though.

Shooting with the 85 flex is very difficult. Over loading the stick shooting the same as above you just dont get anything out of it. It almost feels like you over power the stick and it doesnt return fast enough to give you shot any power. I wish I had a radar gun cause there was a huge difference.

Shooting " lighter " with the 85 flex really didnt do anything. I tried less contact, different techniques and foot position ect and really couldnt get much out of the stick. Kinda sucks i payed 150 bucks for it lol. aw well. experiment documented and noted.

Im curious where the kick points on these sticks would be though. I like my bieksa. Just wish the curve was different.

Im going to try a couple different noted kick point sticks when i can ( $ permitting ) and see which offers the best shot for me. but in terms of flex 107 beat the 85.

Thanks for the thoughts

[ponder 0]

I used to use mostly 85 flex sticks myself, but more recently have been using 75 flex sticks, so I went through a similar transition. Snap shots were better almost immediately with the lower flex, but my slapper took quite awhile to come around. My slapper is always good with stiff flex sticks, at first it was garbage with whippier sticks, but over time I've adjusted my technique and my slappers are now pretty similar regardless of the flex of the stick. Didn't happen with just one game and a 15 minute warmup though, it took many stick and puck sessions shooting tonnes of slappers. As others have noted, I get best results when I slow down the motion slightly, and really focus on shooting through the puck, hard to describe but I almost shoot as if the puck isn't even there and I'm just sort of whipping the stick through the ice. If you want to adjust to a lower flex, you should be able to, I'm skeptical that many beer leaguers are "too strong" for 85 flex sticks, IMO it's more a matter of personal preference and technique.

If you're more comfortable with stiffer flex sticks then there's no problem in just sticking with them, but if you really want to use a whippier flex (for more effortless wrist/snap shots) then your slapper should come around with enough practice. Don't expect it to happen just from one or two games though, it'll take a fair amount of practice in non-game situations where you can just take shot after shot after shot.

[Chadd 916]

could just be me but it cant be done lol.

My beiksa pro stock "total one " 107 flex vs s19 pro stock 85 flex last night both game and after had 15 minutes to play around

I tried man different shooting techniques and tries and I must say if you big strong and can load a higher flex the low flexes just feel like a kids plastic stick I used in grade school for floor hockey haha

Shooting with the 107 flex I can bomb shots. Snappers and slappers. Wrist shots need a big drag but they are pretty heavy aswell. Not fast though.

Shooting with the 85 flex is very difficult. Over loading the stick shooting the same as above you just dont get anything out of it. It almost feels like you over power the stick and it doesnt return fast enough to give you shot any power. I wish I had a radar gun cause there was a huge difference.

Shooting " lighter " with the 85 flex really didnt do anything. I tried less contact, different techniques and foot position ect and really couldnt get much out of the stick. Kinda sucks i payed 150 bucks for it lol. aw well. experiment documented and noted.

Im curious where the kick points on these sticks would be though. I like my bieksa. Just wish the curve was different.

Im going to try a couple different noted kick point sticks when i can ( $ permitting ) and see which offers the best shot for me. but in terms of flex 107 beat the 85.

Thanks for the thoughts

There was a reason I said this:

Given your comments, I don't think you would be happy with a lighter flex.

[bubaloo 6]

yah for sure chadd. I know. I apreciate your advice and comments. I will give it a couple more tries just to see if I can get anything out of the stick.

It does come down to personal preference for sure. Thats interesting how much of a transition you went through going from 85 to 75.

Ill see what the next few games do. I will switch for a couple and just see how I notice my other shots coming off If i can get the off quiker with the 85.

[s_franchise 5]

one thing you might want to do is stay with a stick for a few games without changing back, its easy to just go back to what youre used to.

[bubaloo 6]

yah im going to try for sure. I did a couple of shifts and went back but thought I should give it a better chance. so i for sure will

[tscharf 0]

I have a Total One and an X:60. For me at least, the Total One is easier to lean in to for my wrist shots and the X:60 gives me better snap and slap shots. This is just my experience.

[bubaloo 6]

I have a Total One and an X:60. For me at least, the Total One is easier to lean in to for my wrist shots and the X:60 gives me better snap and slap shots. This is just my experience.

Interesting, I had both at one point but at the time my gloves werent very grippy and I found the x 60 grip wasnt working for me so i didnt really use it much and I ended up selling it to a buddy. wish I kept it now and I could have compared.

Im also trying to get the length right too for shooting because I originally left them stock length and my shots were easier to get off but my stick handling was a bit slower. so I cut them down. Shots stayed consistently hard but due to the increase in stiffness were more ffort to get off. Next time I will cut less aswell in hopes to find the perfect length and flex.

I have a sales bomus this month that i may be putting towards some sticks hahaha.

[bubaloo 6]

went to sports exchange was gonna get a new stick and couldnt really decide. ended up with a dolomite spyne. only 135 bucks so not bad to try something new. im curious to see how warriors sticks are. have an ice time tonight so gonna try and use wristers and snap shots all night and see how it goes. never used a " low kick point " before so interested to see the difference. I wanted an Ak 27 but couldnt find without going pretty far or ordering online and didnt feel like it yet. ill try it eventually

[Madball 0]

Flex and flex points are definetely things that everyone has to figure out.

I often read that "low-kickpoints" are such for offense guys. That's a statement I have to disagree. I'm a defender and I'm 188cm tall and weight 100kg. I normally use one-timers and slapshots and I lean heavily into my shots. I have a reebok 8k sickick II 100 flex one-piece stick and a two piece TPS response R8 standard shaft with 110flex. Since I'm using my reebok stick, I have to say that my shots coming harder and more accurate. The TPS is a mid-kick point stick and I have problems to load heavy slapshots.

So I can commend low kick sticks. I'm looking forward to the reebok a. I stick. I'll test if this mid-kick point will improve my shot. If not, I'll always go back to the low-kick.

[Sniper9 530]

I used 85/100 all my life up until 2 years ago when I tried my first 75. Mind you I am 5'10 and only 165lbs. i had success with stiffer sticks because I am pretty strong and really powered into the shots. I waned to try the 75 because, realistically, in a game situation, I take maybe 1 slap shot every 2-3 games. i wanted a whippier stick for release reasons.

it took me a while to get used to taking slaphots with a whippy stick, but once you get it down, you save A LOT more energy. My wrist shots are effortless and I can snap the puck without any drag or followthrough on snap/wristers.

I do agree and admit that it is a shot to the ego not having a good slapper during the first bit of transitioning, but for me, the only time I took slapshots was in warmup, lol

I have a question regarding kick points, if anyone can answer. For lower kick points, is it better to have your bottom hand held lower than if the stick was a mid kick stick?