damille2Hockey 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2012 Hi I just bought new Bauer TotalOne skates and I had them checked out by my local hockey store, theysaid the skates need to be profiled. They are for a Defenseman 6' 1" 220 lbs I was thinking of an 11' radius but I am concerned that is too flat. What about a 9.5/11 ft is that a good compromise ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AIREAYE 248 Report post Posted October 8, 2012 What do you want to achieve with a profile? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damille2Hockey 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2012 I am trying to get the best profile for the height / weight / Position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AIREAYE 248 Report post Posted October 8, 2012 Well, stock TotalOnes come with a 9' factory radius and the boot structure doesn't result in any particular aggressive lean out of production' more 'neutral'. Profiling can allow you to change how aggressive (forward leaning) your stance is by moving the apex of the profile up and down the steel. A more aggressive lean would put the apex further towards the front and vice-versa. Profiling them to a numerical radius (9',10',11' etc.) changes the amount of blade on the ice, which increases as you go up.As a defenseman myself, I would look for a slight forward lean onot the balls of my feet to account for the need to spring for loose pucks down low, emerge from scrums along the boards to start the breakout and to keep a shifty forward to the outside. This is what's also frequently recommended for our position from what I've read. I might also want to experiment with a lower radius to allow for quicker pivoting and backwards crossovers.That said, it really does depend on the skater and their tendencies/preferences. Most people do not profile their skates and are fine in whatever's stock. Maybe you would like to skate with your T1s for a bit to get a feel of what you might want to change. I'm sure others will give you more informed insight but that's a very basic overview right here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damille2Hockey 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2012 Hi I took them in to my local skate shop and they put a 10' radius checker on it and it was touching at 2 points and dipped in the middle so it looks like they will have to be done regardless. Maybe I will start with an 10' and go from there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3759 Report post Posted October 8, 2012 No, that would mean it's a smaller radius than 10'...as in 9'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chippa13 1844 Report post Posted October 8, 2012 I think the real question is; what was the skater using for a radius on his/her previous skates and how did that feel? That will probably give you the best indication of where to go with the radius on the new skates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3759 Report post Posted October 8, 2012 Not touching this one as I believe you're supposed to balance the skate to the skater, not profile based on height, weight and/or position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damille2Hockey 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2012 Hi I am not sure what you mean, what I was trying to say is the profile from the factory is messed up not sure what it is. What is the best profile / radius for a Defense 6' 1" 220 lbs, should I start with a 10' or 11' radius or is it better to do a split radius ? That could be that you profile for the skater but I would like a starting point as the profile is messed up so what is best as a starting point ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3759 Report post Posted October 8, 2012 The profile isn't messed up. While factory radii aren't always spot-on, your guy didn't even put the right radius bar on the blade as Bauer's steel is 9', not 10'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damille2Hockey 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2012 Yes but since they used a 10' is should have touched only in the middle so trust me I saw it and it isn't a proper 9' my question is what is a good starting point for the skates Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chippa13 1844 Report post Posted October 8, 2012 A good starting point would be whatever the skater had for a radius on their previous pair of skates. Every skater is different. As for the steel, the radius straight from the factory is seldom dead on and that even if you want to go with the 9' radius that a Bauer is supposed to come with that you are better off getting the new skates profiled to a 9' so that both skates are matched to each other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sputnik20 46 Report post Posted October 9, 2012 Do it, try a bunch of different settings. If you find something you like, great! At which point you will need a new set of steel, and you can set them up as you need to. No one person on here, no matter how experienced we are, can tell you what you should get, since we aren't seeing you skate. Try it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greyskull 21 Report post Posted October 9, 2012 Just had my 705's switched up for Ls2's and loving it. Didn't feel as much of an enormous difference in forward lean as everyone said I would, Maybe because my Graf's had the shitty cobra 2000 on them, not the 3 or the 5, but a lot of the lean is in the boot.Anyhow, I'm 6'4" and about 200lbs, and love the stock profile, hollow at 7/16th.I know it probably goes against the point of this site in a way, but see how you get on with the stock profile and actually skate on it; before you start changing it based on what some guy in a store told you...Last time I did that, some guy did a "d-Man grind" (half inch) on my blades and I fell on my face/ass so many times, horrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
romdj 26 Report post Posted October 9, 2012 I think the real question is; what was the skater using for a radius on his/her previous skates and how did that feel? That will probably give you the best indication of where to go with the radius on the new skates.Do it, try a bunch of different settings. If you find something you like, great! At which point you will need a new set of steel, and you can set them up as you need to. No one person on here, no matter how experienced we are, can tell you what you should get, since we aren't seeing you skate. Try it...+1 for both. being a defenseman doesn't mean you have to get a longer radius. I'm not sure PK would be able to do what he does with a 11' blade, and I doubt chara has a 7' radius either.You can tell us what you feel is wrong (too wobbly, not reactive enough, I feel like I'm too much on my heels, too much bite etc etc), and/or post a youtube video of you skating. There are no rules with sharpening, it's like a contour vs 4-roll gloves, heel vs toe curves, list goes on and on, fact of the matter is, it's all about what you're more comfortable with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damille2Hockey 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2012 Update I took the skates in and they suggested a 9.5/10.5 profile so that is what I am going to start with, they should be ready in a couple of days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
