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[Chadd 916]

power yes, quickness no. There are a ton of posts where we have debated the merits of various excercises and drills, I've seen a number of youth camps and clinics as well as minor league training camps and I have never seen anyone mention or use a drill like that.

I've seen basic plyo excercises in dryland situations or jumprope on ice for quickness but never a two foot hop on ice.

[Eazy_b97 1]

I Problem I see is its on the players merit, his goals will be set by his own determination. It's often difficult to push yourself to the next level, especially in something like this. Box jumps would seem to have the same advantages, obviously its off ice, but it would still strengthen the muscles and you could spend your on-ice time with edge control drills.

[Borsch 0]

It is not "two foot hop". You don't need to jump up, the hole point of this exercise is quick forward foot extension followed by a quick drawback.

the fact that you have not seen it in clinics in Canada - its called Russian kip, not Canadien kip hehe ;) Canada's training techniques are still vastly different to the russians.

[crosskore 0]

Iam pretty sure you have to hop if you want to fully extend your legs then bring them back. I highly doubt anyone is so fast they can do that without a hop.

[Neo5370 132]

I think too many people here believe that "smooth sexy skating/stickhandling" makes a great player.

Robitaille and Hull are two of THE most prodigious players wings in history, and were average skaters at best (by NHL standards)

If Kovalev and the like are so "great" than how come they don't produce as many points and contribute to more wins?

This is the same thing as people who think guys that can dribble and showboat like the Harlem Globetrotters or And 1 players can dominate NBA players.

Don't get me wrong, Fedorov is my favorite player, but I don't think his flash is what makes him a great hockey player.

[beaucoup_fish 0]

I think too many people here believe that "smooth sexy skating/stickhandling" makes a great player.

Robitaille and Hull are two of THE most prodigious players wings in history, and were average skaters at best (by NHL standards)

If Kovalev and the like are so "great" than how come they don't produce as many points and contribute to more wins?

This is the same thing as people who think guys that can dribble and showboat like the Harlem Globetrotters or And 1 players can dominate NBA players.

Don't get me wrong, Fedorov is my favorite player, but I don't think his flash is what makes him a great hockey player.

Because Hull and Robitaille (being an even shittier skater than Hull) had the ridiculous ability to pot 40-50 per season. It makes up for their poor skating...if you can pot 40-50 goals a year in the NHL, I don't care how well you skate, as long as you can stay on your feet and aren't a liability...

[crosskore 0]

I think they are talking about indavidual skills.

[Borsch 0]

Sorry Borsch, english is not my first language, can you explain to me what is a russian kip and allen slide glide?

Interesting story about Datsyuk, Jagr and the Bure's.

Do you know Kovalev was shooting 700-800 heavy pucks every morning on summer time, talk about developing a hard and accurate shot.

A thing I know about hockey, it's all about passion, practice and hard-work. All the skills I'm good at are the results of long practice time.

For the Bure's story, it's very interesting, never heard of that before. I have a brother also that is pretty good but not commit to training like I am, He's younger than me though. I will ask him about training with me. I have a question for you for the Bure's brothers, do you know what they were doing from :

5 am to 8 am : and 9am to 2 am, I like those kind of stories, I also have at home the Kovalev road to sucess book written by his father. That's a very interesting book and we can learn in the book how Alex was training hard. In my training, I tend to do what Alex was doing so it's why I would like to know more about the Bure's brothers.

Oh and for Jagr, do you know if he was doing 2000 squats in one shot? I'm doing a lot of squats but not that much. I will try to reach his numbers with the time. And some people wonders why Jagr got so much balance on his skates, lol ;) .

I remember the days Alex spent with Pittsburgh. I have never seen a player take the control of a game like he was doing in that time.

Its not "how many you score" (unless its A LOT hehe) that gets you to the NHL its the touch of class about the player. Hey I love that...

Oh sorry folks, I forgot something to say. IMO, it's very important to work on your physical strenght, but it's more important to work on your skills on dryland. I talk about practicing stickhandling, shooting, skating technique on dryland.

Hi again! Sorry I got so carried away with the Russian Kip buiseness, that have forgot about your questions...

Russian Kip, Allen Slide Glide: explained on the previos page.

Yeah, i did know that alex was shooting not just "heavy" , lead weighted! pucks during one of the summers of his Pittsburgh period. (the following season he was at his most productive goalscoring wise). Great stuff...

Bure story: I don't understand your question :) Like I said, 5am-8am practice with brother and Dad, then school, then practice at the CSKA.

Kovalev's book - I'm interested:) Never even heard of it before.

Jagr - No, I don't think he was doing 2000 squats in one shot. In a day.

Dryland practice - yeah its important and stickhandling shooting is very useful. But it even better on skates. Roller skates. Do you play roller hockey? Brad Richards is one NHL player who was playing roller, so its proven to be great.

Good luck!

[Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3]

What were they doing from 5 to 8 am? Do you know it? I know they were training, but what kind of exercises?

Here is the book on Kovalev, about 40 pages.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...4512169389&rd=1

During summer time, I play roller each day during at least 2 hours. Lidstrom and Fedorov are also playing roller hockey.

Edit: I'll try the Russian kip and the allen slide glide tommorow as I will be on the ice.

[Borsch 0]

What were they doing from 5 to 8 am? Do you know it? I know they were training, but what kind of exercises?

Here is the book on Kovalev, about 40 pages.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...4512169389&rd=1

During summer time, I play roller each day during at least 2 hours. Lidstrom and Fedorov are also playing roller hockey.

Edit: I'll try the Russian kip and the allen slide glide tommorow as I will be on the ice.

I'm terribly sorry man, I can't tell you exatly what they were doing :( But in any case that wouldn't apply to you cause both Bures were only kids at the time. At least I don't know if they carried on with morning practices when they got older. I've read it myself in a book (Pavel Bure The Riddle Of The Russian Rocket) ........oops! I've just reread this bit and I've totally messed up the facts: they were getting up at 5am to catch two busses and train(wow!) to the ice-rink for 7am till 8:30am practice. I apologise! Not that it matters much:)

Thanks for the link for the book! Is there many interesting things about training, skills, etc or is it just a soap opera about a poor talented guy becoming a millioneer?:)

"I'll try the Russian kip and the allen slide glide tommorow as I will be on the ice."- Thats what I'm talking about! Great attitude!!!! :) All these other people on this site were like: "Oh I'm not sure how this works" "Oh I'm not sure IF it works" etc... And you are in attack mode straight away! (there is no "thumb's up" smilie on this site, otherwise I'd put it here:)) Seriosly, first is a terrific foot speed exercise (proven and used in Russian hockey) and second (Allen slide) is a great move which when you practice it will improve your edge control. (on a side note: I ve taken the Allen slide out of The Hockey Handbook by Lloyd Percival which is the best hockey book i know of - highly reccomended)

Good luck on the ice!

[Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3]

What were they doing from 5 to 8 am? Do you know it? I know they were training, but what kind of exercises?

Here is the book on Kovalev, about 40 pages.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...4512169389&rd=1

During summer time, I play roller each day during at least 2 hours. Lidstrom and Fedorov are also playing roller hockey.

Edit: I'll try the Russian kip and the allen slide glide tommorow as I will be on the ice.

I'm terribly sorry man, I can't tell you exatly what they were doing :( But in any case that wouldn't apply to you cause both Bures were only kids at the time. At least I don't know if they carried on with morning practices when they got older. I've read it myself in a book (Pavel Bure The Riddle Of The Russian Rocket) ........oops! I've just reread this bit and I've totally messed up the facts: they were getting up at 5am to catch two busses and train(wow!) to the ice-rink for 7am till 8:30am practice. I apologise! Not that it matters much:)

Thanks for the link for the book! Is there many interesting things about training, skills, etc or is it just a soap opera about a poor talented guy becoming a millioneer?:)

"I'll try the Russian kip and the allen slide glide tommorow as I will be on the ice."- Thats what I'm talking about! Great attitude!!!! :) All these other people on this site were like: "Oh I'm not sure how this works" "Oh I'm not sure IF it works" etc... And you are in attack mode straight away! (there is no "thumb's up" smilie on this site, otherwise I'd put it here:)) Seriosly, first is a terrific foot speed exercise (proven and used in Russian hockey) and second (Allen slide) is a great move which when you practice it will improve your edge control. (on a side note: I ve taken the Allen slide out of The Hockey Handbook by Lloyd Percival which is the best hockey book i know of - highly reccomended)

Good luck on the ice!

I love the Kovalev's book, short book but very interesting. In the book, his father talks about what Alex was doing for training as a young man. We can also read about Alex's career in minor hockey. It seems like you're a Kovalev fan so I think you will like this book, not 100% sure though. But the book is cheap, so I think it easily worth the cost of it...

[Borsch 0]

thumbs up! ;) :)

[chippa13 1844]

I'm going to be graduating from college this May, and I have no idea what I am going to do w/ my life.

Anybody else out there having or have had a similar crisis?

I thought I wanted to be a chef, tried working at a restaurant but I hated the schedule.

Thought I might like working for a pro hockey team, but my internship at the Prov. Bruins taught me otherwise.

I just took the LSAT, but I dunno if I'd get into a good law school AND I'm afraid of public speaking :(

I just can't stand the idea of sitting at a cubicle from 9-5 and doing it all over again day after day after day.

I really only love women, food and hockey. I don't have any burning passion to discover a cure for cancer or run a fortune 500 company............I just want to have enough money to be comfortable and be left alone to my vices.

How did you guys come to be in the careers that y'all are in or want to be in?

If you're graduating in May, you'd better do some serious thinking. Time is running out................tick, tick, tick, tick.................

[bulletproof_funk 0]

How did you guys come to be in the careers that y'all are in or want to be in?

I wanted to be an engineer since the 9th grade way back when. When I had finally got to university, I started to have my doubts and wondered if I should bother continuing. I lucked out on a co-op position one year which motivated me enough to complete my degree. I went back to working for the same company who hired me as a student afterwards, for a few years. I like the technical challenges, but I'd rather not do the paperwork nor deal with company politics. Still, those are part of the job and you just have to deal with it.

I just took the LSAT, but I dunno if I'd get into a good law school AND I'm afraid of public speaking  :(

I just can't stand the idea of sitting at a cubicle from 9-5 and doing it all over again day after day after day.

A lawyer afraid of public speaking... :lol: I had a roommate back in uni. that could talk both your ears off, and he'd enjoy doing it. He went through alot of debates during his law school classes, and had done some volunteer work at school as a mediation conselor or something similar during his undergrad. Anyways, it's something you can work on if you're in doubt of your public speaking skills. I personally dislike public speaking though I've had to do some presentations in the past.

And you don't like offices either... do you really want to be in law? ;) Skills trades, manual labor, sales, on-site support, generally don't involve being in the office environment. But 9-5... When you've done shift work you might learn to appreciate regular, stable hours. If you ever plan on having a family somewhere down the road, they will appreciate it too.

I really only love women, food and hockey.  I don't have any burning passion to discover a cure for cancer or run a fortune 500 company............I just want to have enough money to be comfortable and be left alone to my vices.

Peoples' priorities and situations change over time, keep that in mind. Just keep enough options open so that you aren't left unprepared for life's many unforseen challenges and surprises, positive or otherwise.

My advice: take a year off to travel. At your age, you should see the world and get some perspective on life. It might help you better decide what you want out of life (and career). There's plenty of time for school and work ahead of you. Why not take a break from it all and give school/career choices some thought after? In the meantime, bust your ass and do well on your LSAT.

[cgin6 0]

Somewhere in this thread people were talking about majoring in sports management and how to go about starting a career in the business side of sports. I came across this and thought it had some interesting insight. Read the Feb 2nd entry.

http://www.blogmaverick.com/

[delpiero27 0]

I'm going to be graduating from college this May, and I have no idea what I am going to do w/ my life.

Anybody else out there having or have had a similar crisis?

I thought I wanted to be a chef, tried working at a restaurant but I hated the schedule.

Thought I might like working for a pro hockey team, but my internship at the Prov. Bruins taught me otherwise.

I just took the LSAT, but I dunno if I'd get into a good law school AND I'm afraid of public speaking :(

I just can't stand the idea of sitting at a cubicle from 9-5 and doing it all over again day after day after day.

I really only love women, food and hockey. I don't have any burning passion to discover a cure for cancer or run a fortune 500 company............I just want to have enough money to be comfortable and be left alone to my vices.

How did you guys come to be in the careers that y'all are in or want to be in?

think about. hurry up. it's late.

architecture. my choice that time.

i'm not telling you it's easy. or at least not here in italy.

but:

don't need to stay all day in cubicle.

can practice sometime climbing on scaffoldings to 20 mt high.

can stay outside in the morning on job-sites at -10, and have to record all the ideas and modifications to projects on the cell-phone voice recorder because your hands are freezing and you cannot even use a pencil...

have every day a problem to solve using fantasy or eve a little bit of crazyness.

can't sleep sometime thinking if everything is ok, what's wrong?

cannot go home in the evening before 20, and you're out since 7.30.

you can easily swich from a dress to hockey jersey and jeans, depends of what you want to do that day, or the appointments you have... (ok, today i was in black jeans and old ccm sweat. but tomorrow i have a few important meeting, so blue suit and tie...).

and play hockey in a grappa league.

and come back after the game completely destroyed.

and your wife will ask you: why are you doing that? whaching it on tv or live is really better... (ok, ok, that's my personal experience...).

hope your choice will be the best for you, and you'll never regret. :)