Superfeet black vs carbon arch height

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Hello FNG here with a first post. I recently decided to pick up some skates so I could skate with my son who decided to play hockey for the first time this year. I started out just wanting to buy a reasonably priced pair of skates which has now turned into me obsessing over getting the skates perfect for me. I have super flat wide feet and the only thing that works for me is the Bauer vapor fit 3. I originally didn't want to spend as much as I did but settled on a 3x as it was the least expensive model I could get in fit 3. The boot itself fits like a glove with zero pressure points and no slop. I couldn't be happier with the skates but the stock footbed leaves a lot to be desired. I do get a decent amount of discomfort/fatigue on the bottom of my foot but nothing like the excruciating pain I had with some stake models that were clearly just wrong for me. I believe part of the problem is the stock foot bed is so narrow through the middle of the foot and arch area. I believe Bauer literally slaps the same footbed in an 8 fit 1 and 8 fit 3. doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

 

Anyhow I decided to give the superfeet carbon a try. I don't like the way the comfort models lift the heel. I sized them up to accommodate my super wide heel and had them trimmed. They felt great in the store but when I got on the ice and skated a few times it was apparent that they had WAY to much arch in them. I did really like the way they stabilized my heel and could tell it helped in that regard but it simply moved the discomfort from the center of my foot to a much more intense pain on the inside of my feet where a persons arch would be if they have one. When I say I have flat feet everything but the last 1/2" the inside center of my foot lays flat on the ground when I step. I can barely get a pencil to slide in 1/2" under my arch. I returned the carbon under the 60 day guarantee and the guy at the hockey shop recommended that I try the black superfeet which are not marketed specifically to hockey. He said they are designed with a much lower arch and have a wider heel. Does anyone have any experience with the 2 models? I'm afraid that they will still have too much arch support. 

[shoot_the_goalie 281]

SF Black does have a smaller arch and lower profile than the SF Carbons by a little.  They also flex a bit more than the carbons.  Worth a try with SF's money back guarantee policy.  SF Black btw is marketed for dress shoes and shoes of low volume.

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Anyone else have any experience using both or at least the black in a skate? 

[VegasHockey 1280]

I know a lot of people that use these for hockey. I was actually told about them from an NHL EQM who had mentioned a lot of NHL players really like them and started to use them once Bauer stopped producing the Speed Plate 1.0/2/0

https://syksol.com/products/raven-thermo?variant=4649231089697

We have an order in to test them and see how they feel/perform. 

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4 hours ago, PBH said:

I know a lot of people that use these for hockey. I was actually told about them from an NHL EQM who had mentioned a lot of NHL players really like them and started to use them once Bauer stopped producing the Speed Plate 1.0/2/0

https://syksol.com/products/raven-thermo?variant=4649231089697

We have an order in to test them and see how they feel/perform. 

Those are interesting. It looks like this might be a speedplate concept with more comfort? 

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Update. I ordered a pair of Currex hockeypro insoles in low and got a chance to skate with them today. They were immediately better then anything I've tried and after about a 10 minute break in period I was able to skate with no foot pain or fatigue. Really happy that I can go skate and enjoy myself now! To anyone who has wide flat feet and struggling I recommend giving them a try. 

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6 hours ago, Bcowette said:

Update. I ordered a pair of Currex hockeypro insoles in low and got a chance to skate with them today. They were immediately better then anything I've tried and after about a 10 minute break in period I was able to skate with no foot pain or fatigue. Really happy that I can go skate and enjoy myself now! To anyone who has wide flat feet and struggling I recommend giving them a try. 

wait, are they just a clones of ccm custom support insoles?!

[Bcowette 2]

Yes but they don't have a thin layer of foam that the ccm version had.