Reebok stuff at Hockey Giant

[jeffw 1]

http://www.hockeygiant.com/this-week-s-specials.html

[jimmy 194]

Bad news for me. I was susposed to get my RBK stuff MAR 1st. It's more than 1 month late. If the internet sites get it early, we'll lose a lot of the new product impulse sales. Just one more nail in the coffin for the LHS's. Too bad, because I sell ALL my stuff at internet prices.

[Chadd 916]

Bad news for me. I was susposed to get my RBK stuff MAR 1st. It's more than 1 month late. If the internet sites get it early, we'll lose a lot of the new product impulse sales. Just one more nail in the coffin for the LHS's. Too bad, because I sell ALL my stuff at internet prices.

I love their logic on these situations, "they bought more so they should get it first."

[ladystorm3 0]

thats rediculus

[MNdgame 0]

Bad news for me.  I was susposed to get my RBK stuff MAR 1st.  It's more than 1 month late.  If the internet sites get it early, we'll lose a lot of the new product impulse sales.  Just one more nail in the coffin for the LHS's.  Too bad, because I sell ALL my stuff at internet prices.

I love their logic on these situations, "they bought more so they should get it first."

Makes sense... it encourages retailers to buy more of their product...

[mik3 1]

Makes sense... it encourages retailers to buy more of their product...

And it pushes out the little guy that helped keep these companies in business for so long.

[MNdgame 0]

Makes sense... it encourages retailers to buy more of their product...

And it pushes out the little guy that helped keep these companies in business for so long.

Thats just how things work. They are obviously more conerned with bigger accounts and people that order 500 sticks versus 50. Its not like they arent selling to the smaller stores they just get it a month later than some of the bigger places...

[mik3 1]

eh, that's a bad way of doing business. if someone orders half as much, but has been with you for 10 years they should get things before conglomo.com that has been around for 18 months.

[MNdgame 0]

Yeah but they are more conerned with making money, haha if only Easton gave a sh!t about the businesses.

[Chadd 916]

Makes sense... it encourages retailers to buy more of their product...

And it pushes out the little guy that helped keep these companies in business for so long.

Thats just how things work. They are obviously more conerned with bigger accounts and people that order 500 sticks versus 50. Its not like they arent selling to the smaller stores they just get it a month later than some of the bigger places...

But if it hurts 20 of those accounts that each bought 50 sticks, it doesn't help them in the long run.

[MNdgame 0]

Makes sense... it encourages retailers to buy more of their product...

And it pushes out the little guy that helped keep these companies in business for so long.

Thats just how things work. They are obviously more conerned with bigger accounts and people that order 500 sticks versus 50. Its not like they arent selling to the smaller stores they just get it a month later than some of the bigger places...

But if it hurts 20 of those accounts that each bought 50 sticks, it doesn't help them in the long run.

How does it hurt them in the long run?

[sdcopp 1]

When conglomo.com only buys half to a quarter as much as the multiple smaller accounts that have faithfully supported the business, and those same smaller accounts go out of business due to conglomo.com. Thats part of the reason you can't order BNH product from places that don't have an actual brick and mortar storefront, BNH realized the effect the conglmo.com's were having

[Chadd 916]

How does it hurt them in the long run?

As was mentioned, they may be one of the largest single accounts for the manufacturer. The problem is when each of the major manufacturers start to treat those few large accounts to perks like priority on shipments. All of a sudden a number of smaller shops are hurt a little and given the thin margins that shops live off of, every little bit of profit is crucial.

If your local shop is raping you on prices, buy online. If you're doing it to save $7, you're killing the heart of the industry.

[MNdgame 0]

Either way it doesnt hurt Easton, or RBK or Nike or whoever... because it doesnt matter to them if 100 little shops sell 50 sticks each or 5 big shops sell 1000 each.

[sdcopp 1]

Either way it doesnt hurt Easton, or RBK or Nike or whoever... because it doesnt matter to them if 100 little shops sell 50 sticks each or 5 big shops sell 1000 each.

That's exactly the problem though, the 3 big shops may sell 1500 each, but the 500 littler shops that normally would sell 50 each are getting crunched. I support the online businesses just the same as anyone else would when, as Chadd said, it saves you a bunch of money on a paticular item. However, when you go to save 2-5 dollars a blade, or 7 bucks on a full set of wheels, you're harming your own community, LHS and economy, and you have to wait for it. Besides, Hockeygiant.com doesn't care as much about your repeat business as a LHS will. It's amazing how much consideration you can get from shop owners when you go in repeatedly to make purchases from them, some may cut you a better deal in the future because you've been a good customer for them. Not to mention the personal service you can get.

[Chadd 916]

Either way it doesnt hurt Easton, or RBK or Nike or whoever... because it doesnt matter to them if 100 little shops sell 50 sticks each or 5 big shops sell 1000 each.

The point is one large, online shop hurts a large number of small shops. More large, online shops hurt more local dealers.

I have a very small shop and I sold more than 50 OPS in the last four months. I know you were just using a random number but the big online guys really need to move a ton to make up for the shops they hurt.

Without going into the whole point of ensuring a player is using the right lie and flex, there are a number of other reasons why manufacturers need to have the local stores. Impulse purchases are so much more common when you can actually pick up a stick and buy it.

[MNdgame 0]

Im not saying that small stores are bad. Also , I understand they need to move a ton but they have lower costs too, all they need is a warehouse and a few employees with everything using computers. Also I think eventually there will be more 'chain' hockey stores which I think would be a good idea. Like having 50 stores from epuck or whatever to take over more LHS.

[Chadd 916]

Im not saying that small stores are bad. Also , I understand they need to move a ton but they have lower costs too, all they need is a warehouse and a few employees with everything using computers. Also I think eventually there will be more 'chain' hockey stores which I think would be a good idea. Like having 50 stores from epuck or whatever to take over more LHS.

You probably think wal-mart is good too. Epuck is what they are because they aren't a chain. Look at Perani's, they have average prices other than the stuff they get on closeout. They don't even stock evey brand in every store. That's what a national chain will be like.

Play it again and Source for Sports are examples of the franchise route. Some are good, some suck. The name alone doesn't guarantee anything.

[MNdgame 0]

Im not saying that small stores are bad.  Also , I understand they need to move a ton but they have lower costs too, all they need is a warehouse and a few employees with everything using computers.  Also I think eventually there will be more 'chain' hockey stores which I think would be a good idea.  Like having 50 stores from epuck or whatever to take over more LHS.

You probably think wal-mart is good too. Epuck is what they are because they aren't a chain. Look at Perani's, they have average prices other than the stuff they get on closeout. They don't even stock evey brand in every store. That's what a national chain will be like.

Play it again and Source for Sports are examples of the franchise route. Some are good, some suck. The name alone doesn't guarantee anything.

How could you say that wal-mart is bad? Its obviously a good thing because people that shop there otherwise would not be able to buy what they do. Wal-mart is a totally different thing you cant even compare...

[Chadd 916]

wow.

[MNdgame 0]

The people at fortune magazine must be crazy then...

They're a very strong company financially, just not morally or ethically. Sam Walton once said that they would never build a store in an area that did not want them. Current management doesn't believe in that.

Building a store in the middle of Aztec ruins in Mexico is just wonderful.

I've seen a lot of changes in my old home town thanks to wal-mart. They kill specialty stores, the people who run them and the companies that service those specialty stores. There was a story in the paper here about wal-mart not long ago. There are something like 20 stores within 40 miles of here. They also mentioned 50 businesses in one county alone that went under primarily because of them.

What wal-mart would do to hockey:

Equipment would be cheaper as they would focus on having the lowest price. However, they wouldn't care about protection or durability or performance. Manufacturers would have to skimp on things to be able to meet the prices wal-mart would be willing to pay. Instead of paying $100 for a synergy, wal-mart would only pay $70. Easton would be forced to do things like using cheaper materials to be able to turn a profit. Eventually, they would have to water down their product to the point it wasn't considered high quality anymore. Then wal-mart would move on to the next brand and start all over again. A company with all of the assets that Easton has could recover, a smaller company would be out of business.

It I wasnt even talking financially about the fortune magazine thing. Fortune named Wal-Mart the third "most admired" company in the US and one of the 100 best companies to work for in the United states.

[jimmy 194]

Bad news for me.  I was susposed to get my RBK stuff MAR 1st.  It's more than 1 month late.  If the internet sites get it early, we'll lose a lot of the new product impulse sales.  Just one more nail in the coffin for the LHS's.  Too bad, because I sell ALL my stuff at internet prices.

I love their logic on these situations, "they bought more so they should get it first."

I understand buy more/get faster if it's a large retail store, but the manufacturers are killing LHS's by getting the stuff to internet sites first.

BTW, I signed up for the buy big - ship March 1 program. Jussed pi$$ed not here yet. There is a fine window for impusle buying.

[jimmy 194]

Bad news for me.  I was susposed to get my RBK stuff MAR 1st.  It's more than 1 month late.  If the internet sites get it early, we'll lose a lot of the new product impulse sales.  Just one more nail in the coffin for the LHS's.  Too bad, because I sell ALL my stuff at internet prices.

I love their logic on these situations, "they bought more so they should get it first."

Makes sense... it encourages retailers to buy more of their product...

Only problem is, retailers aren't operating out of garages or $1 per SF warehouses burried in some industrial district. Running a retail store costs way more than running a internet business. All this matters when we look in our pockets to see how much equipment we can buy for the year.

[jimmy 194]

Im not saying that small stores are bad. Also , I understand they need to move a ton but they have lower costs too, all they need is a warehouse and a few employees with everything using computers. Also I think eventually there will be more 'chain' hockey stores which I think would be a good idea. Like having 50 stores from epuck or whatever to take over more LHS.

Customer goes into chain store and asks 16-yo female clerk what flex stick and curve would be good for their 10 yo son? Clerk answers, "The hockey sticks are in isle 9"

[UMWhockey 0]

i am going to have to post my 10 page research paper on Wal-mart's negative affects on the national economy. :D