Wicked3Aussie
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12 hours ago, honeless_blader said:Think about FZ but... reversed and white, not silver. Take away the dots, add some geometric lines... vents a bit more fang-ey.
And anyone can correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like a mostly stylistic update.
Yeah I’d agree with that.
Almost like the DS Update.
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40 minutes ago, That Inline Guy said:Does anyone know if they're sticking with the white for the new line?
Loved the FZ line and personally miss the Axioms/ACs. Know white isn't for everyone but just think it looks pretty sweet for inline.
Also 99% sure that photo above is a pair from the FZ line.
Dm me your email and I’ll send you the images if you like.
Theyre white.
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On 9/10/2020 at 9:30 AM, kylec said:Bauer bought Mission back in 2008. They were going to keep mission inline. The inhalers were going to fit like supreme ice skates and vapors were going to fit like vapor ice skates.
I Work in a LHS for the past 3 years... but thats all I've heard about it.
Kyle
Yeah their first release was the Syndicate SE model run(Old Mission Design) and then released the Axiom line as the first Supreme last design.
Every model Mission since has been based on the Supreme last but missing out on a lot of features the top end Supremes get.
I was implying that it looks like Bauer is retiring the Mission brand.
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33 minutes ago, JSchultz said:Ha, actually you're right. I think that this is just image distortion. I looked closer and saw that these still had a hi lo chassis whereas the rumor was new lineup would have revision.
I suggested the revision rumour as that’s what I was told by my LHS.
I’ve since got images & specs of the WM Inhaler range and can confirm they still rock the Labedas.
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10 hours ago, Miller55 said:Agree, I hate the all 80s, but the sensor was definitely the best one.
The thing about Mission is that you're never gonna see them do anything that doesn't already exist in Bauer ice skates, so they're basically just riding out the popularity of the brand name without actually innovating anything different from Bauer ice or roller. I think it's dumb, because they could really just use Mission for any weird innovation they want to try, and then keep Bauer roller traditional, but instead it's just two brand putting out basically the same skates.
Yeah, that make sense. The patent expired and now they can see how they do. I think they might keep two lines if the sales can support it, as there are definitely players who prefer the all 80mm. I just wish tour would put a bit more into their boots. I love the fit and the comfort, but I'm not trying to go through a pair of skates every 2-3 seasons of 2x/week house league and maybe 1x/week pickup. I would love if they put out a top of the line + option, even if they raise the price point. I grew up on long island and know a bunch of the older tour players and I don't think anyone has been stoked on their skates in a long time. Everyone tells me they're fine but if they weren't free they would not be wearing them. The last tours I had were code tabus maybe 10 years ago, and I think every top end skate they've done since then had been pretty much the same skate with different graphics until this code 1.one
Yep 100% Missions have been watered supremes for years.
I doubt it’ll happen but I’d like to see the Fit 1,2,3 system adapted to roller.
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Apparently they’ll be coming back with revisions
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Hi all,
Have noticed recently that the Mission website has been taken down and Mission Skates now featured on the Bauer website.
No Facebook posts since 2019 either.
Anyone heard anything about mission being rebranded as Bauer?
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On 8/18/2020 at 4:18 AM, Westside said:Curiosity got the best of me so I ordered a set of MPC Freestyle wheels. Having never experienced dual pour wheels, the variation from wheel to wheel is very strange. For example, 3 of the 4 80mm wheels looks the same. One is slightly lighter in color, but not dramatically so. However, with the 76mm wheels, 2 of the 4 are noticeably lighter with one looking practically clear as though there’s no second material. Is this a manufacturing defect?
Here’s a photo with the 2 lighter 76mm wheels on the top left and the 1 lighter 80mm wheel on the bottom left
I’ve never gone wheel crazy, but am looking forward to the R1’s arriving even more now! Will have my standard Labeda setup, the RR Tricksters, and the MPC Freestyle to try out
Very nice purchase!
Mine were like that as well new but I just assumed it was how I held them under the light as they appeared light and dark in certain settings.
I never had an issue with quality or defects, in fact I’m still punishing my set and they’ve had no visible loss of grip.
When I first bought them I tested them with my A scale for fun anf each wheel was consistently around the 84A mark with nothing standing out.
its funny cause when I first got them I did coffee table test on them and they felt slippery.
I hesitated putting them on but when I did oh man it was awesome!
Im very excited to hear how they go for you, all my buddies that have bought these at my recommendation have had huge success too.
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21 hours ago, Westside said:
I understand paying a premium, but the gold standard outdoor hockey wheel is pretty much the Labeda Asphalt. That wheel runs $7. The MPC is more than FOUR TIMES the cost. Since this discussion started about the Slime, that wheel is $13 so the MPC is still 2.5x the cost.
Comparing your logic of ‘you get what you pay for’, Step Steel or any other piece of premium equipment doesn’t cost 4x or 2.5x more than its high end counterpart. 20-50%? Sure.
I’m willing to pay a premium (and do) for better performing or longer lasting gear. But I’m not willing to spend the cost of a single wheel that would normally buy a set of four. If they priced it closer to $15 there’d be a larger market willing to adopt them. For casual/rec users (non pros) I have a hard time believing that many people are going to spend that kind of money on wheels
My $0.02
I & many others do.
Id rather pay more and go as hard as I can.
Everyone likes different things.
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On 7/31/2020 at 7:37 AM, Westside said:Geez. That’s crazy confusing. Well I picked up a set of the tricksters so we’ll see how they hold up compared to the Labedas I’m used to. Can’t seem to find the MPC anywhere in the states and spending $13+ per wheel is just nonsense
This attitude is the reason the wheel was cancelled as a hockey wheel to begin with.
Roller being smaller scale to ice and then no one wanting to pay for a premium outdoor wheel.
On 7/31/2020 at 8:10 AM, Westside said:Where’s a video of the process?
looking in Australia the wheels are $30 which is about $21 USD. Per wheel! When Labeda or most other asphalt wheels are $7 each, that’s a hefty investment for non-professional players
You get what you pay for.
If you’re a heavy player and you want to maximise your ability it’s worth every cent.
I ordere mine from Bladeworx’s in Victoria and had them in QLD pretty quick.
On 7/31/2020 at 12:37 PM, Miller55 said:There's probably one on YouTube, I remember seeing one years ago on skateboard wheels. Basically the same idea.
Yeah, that's expensive. I saw in euros for 13 euros each, which is like 15usd. Fit asphalt wheels it's a lot and I wouldn't buy them. I would use them for indoor wood honestly.
At $15 they're only a dollar more than addictions, which is not that big a deal to me aiming they will last much longer.
My predicament is essentially that there is no indoor wheel that is hard enough for me, given the combination of my weight, hard skating and the sprungs. The hardest indoor wheels you can find are usually 78a, which is like walking in mud with those 3 factors. The other option is basically to use asphalt wheels inside, but I will probably not get as much grip as I'd like to.
So the world cup 82a reissue and the MPC freestyle dual pour 84a are the only real options for me, since they are hard, grippy and play softer than outdoor wheels. If I don't like the new world cups and can't get my hands on freestyles, my only real option is tricksters.
All of this is obviously assuming the rink will open in time for fall season, and who really knows at this point what's going to be
Youre preaching to the choir!
Although I still think the 82a reissue were a failed product, 84a dual for the win.
On 7/31/2020 at 4:20 PM, althoma1 said:I am over 200lbs, skate hard and use Sprungs and find the Konnix Pure plus 2 wheels work well on Sport Court. I actually used to use 78a Hot Shots in the first three positions and 84a World Cups in the rear spot. I had some hub separation issues with the World Cups and the Konnix Pure actually last longer for me. Before the Konnix wheels I used Revision Steel wheels and those weren't bad, but I had the odd separation in those as well. I have never had a hub separate in over two years with the Konnix and they grip better, but don't feel like I am skating in mud.
I do have some cheap single pour outdoor wheels that I used to ref with on smooth cement and those do feel like skating in mud. I have some other 86a outdoor wheels that feel better.
Anyway, I would give the original Konnix Pure plus 2 a try if you haven't already. They're definitely the best Sport Court wheels I have used with Sprungs and I do like a hard wheel.
Before I got on the Freestyle Dual pour(84A reissue) the only wheel I could use with success was the +2 pures.
I tried the pure x but unfortunately they feel very similar to the 82a in that they bog down and just don’t feel as comfortable.
To be fair they do last longer and have slightly better grip than the original pure.
Freestyle dual pours are faster, grippier & much longer lasting than the pures.
6 hours ago, hockeydad3 said:If you combine viscous liquids without stirring them, they will only mix in the transition zones. Like multicolored toothpaste. Only way for us to find out how a trickster wheel is constructed, is to cut a wheel into slices.
It’s basically a wank.
They’re trying to insinuate that you can have your cake and eat it for much cheaper without saying it.
I bought mine and didn’t even read into the dual durometer because it’s still a single pour wheel.
Single pour means generally you choose either grip or roll speed, not usually both.
Dual pour gives you that flexibility as you have the 62a inner core that flexes on corners to give you cornering grip and stopping power and your choice of harder outer layer to have that amazing roll as well( having your cake and eating it).
It’s not the same with a dual duro as its still only one layer and depends on what hardness you get. (No comparison with a true dual or triple pour).
The Australian Touring Car championship(V8 Supercars) recently banned a technology called “twin springs” as an unfair suspension advantage.
the technology is the same, as you have a longer hard spring and then a shorter soft spring joined as one.
The hard spring would benefit straight line & cornering exit speed and having the soft spring for cornering grip all in one.
The big budget teams tuned their hardnesses and had a huge advantage.
Same technology.
I can’t explain the patents as thats their business but as many other have suggested, don’t buy into the Dual duro hype.
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50 minutes ago, Miller55 said:Yeah I figured they would be amazing on wood. I'll have to try them when the rink opens back up. It's nice to have an 84a dual pour, especially with sprungs.
Edit: well it seems like nobody in the US is selling them... The only option is really the world cup reissues directly from RR, and they're 82a, not 84.
Yeah I almost had to get mine from Europe but luckily a couple of skate shops here in Australia carried them.
Rink Rat also offered via messenger to sell me some direct but it ended up cheaper buying them locally.
Might not be a bad idea to hit them up, definitely worth it.
I couldn’t stand those 82a world cups, I was so excited to get the World Cup back and was let down big time.
The only reason the og went away was because there’s minimal money being spent in Roller and average Joe wasn’t into spending the extra for a premium outdoor wheel.
I almost fell off my chair when I found out they existed again.
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19 hours ago, Miller55 said:Does a slalom wheel have the same elliptical profile? Not familiar with the sport, seems like a very European thing honestly
I would assume so.
profile can be dependant on company as well, labeda use a different profile in their wheels compared to rink rat for example.
I can confirm that other than the sick colour job on the dual pours they’re virtually Identical to the old school world cup(I still have a couple brand new in my draw that I can use for comparison) and every other dual pour rink rat hockey wheel.
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19 hours ago, hockeydad3 said:Rink Rat answered my request:
The Trickster is a hybrid between single and dual pour. Two different polyurethanes are combined in a single pour process.
Yeah it’s a single pour wheel with a premier quality urethane.
Theyre not too bad but not my first choice, I have the 84a single pours as well and only like them on asphalt.
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37 minutes ago, Miller55 said:Yeah 78a is too soft for me too. How do you find the dual pour freestyle on each surface? Used on asphalt at all?
I’m yet to use them on the tiles but being 84A and dual they have so much roll and do much grip.
They work really well on panted concrete and especially well on wood.
Because they’re hard enough to take my weight I can actually feel the rebound on each step.
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14 hours ago, Westside said:If the MPC Freestyle are the same as the Rink Rat Trickster X-Grip, are you playing with them outdoors on asphalt or on smoother surfaces? How have they been wearing? I just picked up a set of these and they certainly feel softer than the Labeda Asphalt wheels I’ve been using for years. Concerned with longevity and durability (especially considering the price)
Hey man, I was referencing the dual pour version of the Freestyle wheels.
They have 2 versions, the single pour which is a rebranded trickster and the dual pour which are rebranded og 84a hot shots.
I use the dual pour 84As and love them, they’re guns on every surface under my 103kg.
nothing else rebounds for me like these wheels.
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22 hours ago, Miller55 said:We're you using the Pure X in a +2? What surface do you play on and how much do you weigh? I was under the impression that the +2 Konixx is akin to 78a. Is that correct?
I went from using +2 Pures and loving them to +2 Pure X and losing half a step, +2 is rated as 78a.
The pure x last noticeably longer, the original pures don’t like humidity and depending on time of year could come off the pace pretty quickly.
I’m 103kg, and have used them on all surfaces with them being great on wood, pretty good on the tiles and useless on painted concrete
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I ended up bailing on my Pure X.
While having better grip and lasting longer they just bog down and feel sloppy on take offs and accelerating.
Very similar to the recent 82A rink rat world cups, they felt the same.
I’ve made the switch to MPC Freestyle dual pours and couldn’t be happier, they’re the original 84a rink rats rebranded as MPC slalom wheels.
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6 hours ago, hockeydad3 said:Rink Rat Trickster and MPC Freestyle single and dual pour have the same look. They have different colours, a different print on them and they are manufactured at the same place.
I couldn´t compare the wheels and MPC didn´t answer my request for the difference between the wheels.
Similar but not the same.
Dual pour has an M-tech ring, single pour does not and colour is slightly different.
Single is the trickster rebranded and the dual is the old 84a rebranded.
Theyre being marketed as a slalom wheel in Europe.
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On 7/26/2020 at 7:44 PM, hockeydad3 said:Rink Rat and Mpc are different brands of the same manufacturer(same factory address). Mpc Freestyle and Rink Rat Trickster have an identical look, just a different colour. Trickster should be 84a and Freestyle is 84a-86a according to resellers information.
On 7/27/2020 at 12:54 AM, Miller55 said:Yup, they are the same wheel, very unique dual pour outdoor wheel. I can imagine this on the old vforms for some beach hockey
Just to be clear hockeydad3 you are referring to the single pour version wheel.
My post is in reference to the dual pour wheel.
MPC have released both versions as Freestyle.
The dual pour wheel has nothing to do with the trickster.
Miller55 is correct, as I previously mentioned it is the OG World Cup/Hot shot x rebranded .
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Back in the day the og rink rat world cups/hotshot x grip were a decent premium outdoor wheel.
Theyve been rereleased as the MPC branded “Freestyle” dual pour.
Cost more but highly recommended.
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3 hours ago, 215BroadStBullies610 said:Hmm. That's not good to hear haha.
Yeah I know.
They have everything that should make them a fantastic wheel but they miss the mark compared to the OG.
They’re unfortunately a noticeably slower wheel.
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On 6/2/2020 at 3:14 AM, althoma1 said:Are you using the hardest durometer in both or do you have the option of going from say a +1 in the OG to a +2 in the X?
+2 for both.
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Konixx pure white for me.
I have pure X and they’re more durable and have better grip but they just feel like they bog down.
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In relation to the bearings, I use them and really like them.
I had bones swiss ceramics which broke pretty quickly under my weight so I replaced them with these.
Standard bones quality but with the same principle as a minimiser bearing without compromising size/strength.
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I’ve reused mine a couple of times since but they’re just way to slow.
The kids at my local have came to the same conclusion and have all moved back to rink rat since the OG Pure’s no longer available.
Since this post I moved onto MPC Freestyle Dual pour wheels which are significantly faster, durable and grippier than either version of the Pure.