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Bauer Vapor Skate Fit Evolution (2009–2025) Model | Heel Fit | Forefoot | Boot Height / Instep | Pitch | Fit Notes ----------------|------------------|--------------------|---------------------------|------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------- X:60 (2009) | Very narrow, deep V | Narrow, tapered | Very low | Very aggressive | Classic Vapor. Ultra-tight heel lock and shallow fit. APX (2011) | Narrow | Slightly wider | Still low | More aggressive | Added recoil tongue. More anatomical heel and wrap. APX2 (2013) | Narrow | Tapered, rigid | Low, stiff ankle wrap | Aggressive | Stiff plastic quarter. Heaviest feel of pre-1X Vapors. 1X (2015) | Narrow | Tapered | Low, better wrap | Aggressive | Lightweight Curv® build. Softer wrap, more form-fit. 1X 2.0 (2016) | Narrow | Tapered | Slightly higher instep | Slightly less aggressive| Improved liner comfort. Slightly more volume up top. 2X Pro (2019) | Narrow | Tapered, more toe space | Low-mid | Aggressive-balanced | Asymmetrical toe cap adds subtle width. Still snug heel. Hyperlite (2021) | Narrow-ish | Tapered | Taller instep | Less aggressive | Softer quarter. More flex in upper. Heel less locked-in. Hyperlite 2 (2023)| Narrow-ish | Tapered | Same as HL1 | Similar to HL1 | Refined wrap. Slight heel hold improvement. Flylite (2025) | Narrow to med-narrow| Tapered | Lower instep | More aggressive | Returns to tighter wrap like APX2 but modernized. Key Fit Evolutions (2009–2025): X:60 → APX: Tighter, more anatomical heel and stiffer wrap. APX2: More rigid, durable, with reduced comfort/flex. 1X: Big leap—lighter, more mobile, better thermoform fit. 1X 2.0: Slightly more upper boot volume—less toe pressure. 2X Pro: Slight forefoot width increase via new toe cap; boot feels more balanced. Hyperlite: Boot height increases, heel lock softens slightly, more flex. Hyperlite 2: Small refinements, improved heel lock with similar shape. Flylite: Brings back older locked-in feel with modern materials.

I can’t find any in my size. That’s why I’m looking for the same pitch but a different holder. I can achieve the pitch with profiling. The following Data is according to ChatGPT. Correct the information if it’s incorrect Senior Skate Holder Pitch & Height Comparison Chart Holder Model Rear Tower Height Front Tower Height Pitch (Height Difference) Pitch Description Notes Easton CXN (SR) 2.875″ 2.125″ 0.75″ Very aggressiveforward All pitch comes from the holder Bauer Tuuk Edge (SR) 2.75″ 2.125″ 0.625″ Aggressiveforward Quick-release steel trigger Bauer Powerfly (SR) — — Unknown Likely forward-leaning Asymmetric stiffness, no height specs published CCM SpeedBlade +4.0 (SR) 2.75″ (est.) 2.125″ (est.) 0.625″ Aggressiveforward Same pitch and height as Tuuk Edge CCM XS (SR) — — Unknown Neutral to mild forward Consensus says flatter than Edge CCM Prolite 3 (SR) — — Unknown Possibly forward Anecdotal; no specs available

Does anyone know what pitch the CXN holder was? I have a pair of makos on their last legs and found a pair of buy online but want to keep the pitch the same with new non Easton holders. Also I hate every other skate on the market currently. I have other skates that are decent but the mako is the best. I’ve tried true and absolutely hated them. The mako is the skate. Really wish Bauer didn’t suck and wish they never bought Easton. If Mako went back on the market, they probably would sell great again. It was the durability that did them in.

i have two sets of the same skate. maybe one set edge and the other xs

stiffer holder and I like the mechanism better than the trigger on the edge. maybe a better holder

Using the same hollow and profile. Using bladetech steel. I just feel like response and pop if that makes sense.

Hey everyone, I recently switched from the Edge holder to the XS holder and noticed something strange — I feel slower and less responsive overall. Has anyone else experienced this? I’m wondering if it’s just in my head or if there's actually a difference in performance or feel between the two holders. Would love to hear your thoughts or experiences. Thanks in advance!

Is it better to lace skates from inside out or outside in?

does anyone know where to get the Custom Fit inserts that are now used in True Skates? I know MLX and Vh used them and now so does true. I've ordered them from true in the past but wanted to buy my own.

Sorry i meant to say that the steel I’m using is offered in both the edge holder and xs holder

Hey everyone, I’m in the process of choosing between the Edge holder and the XS holder for my skates and would really appreciate some insights from those who’ve used both. I’ve tried both holders and haven’t noticed a major difference in performance, but I’m trying to decide which one is the better fit for my long-term use. Here’s some context about my skating style and preferences: My size and playstyle: I’m a bigger player (6’2", 210 lbs) who plays a combination of aggressive, physical hockey with a focus on speed, sharp turns, and quick bursts of acceleration. I also do a fair amount of grinding the boards and tight turning. Given my size and style, I want to make sure the holder I choose gives me the best edge control, stability, and responsiveness. Key questions I have: Attack angle: I really like a more aggressive attack angle for quicker acceleration and sharper turns. From what I understand, the Edge holder has a more aggressive attack angle, which gives a quicker edge bite and more aggressive turns. However, I’ve heard that the XS holder’s more neutral attack angle might provide better stability at high speeds. Is the more aggressive attack of the Edge worth it for a bigger player, or does the XS holder’s neutrality give better overall power transfer and edge control? Stiffness: I know the XS holder is stiffer than the Edge, providing more stability and consistent edge control during aggressive skating. For someone my size, does the stiffer XS holder make a noticeable difference in terms of maintaining control when pushing hard on the edges, or does the more flexible Edge holder offer enough responsiveness and agility? I’m wondering if the flexibility of the Edge might help with agility but at the cost of a bit of stability during heavier skating. Weight/feel: Since I’m a bigger player, does the extra weight of the Edge holder hinder quick movements, or does the stability it offers help with balance and edge control? Would the lighter XS holder be better for my game, or is the weight of the Edge holder something I can work with in terms of power and durability? Durability: I’ve noticed that the Edge holder uses a plastic trigger, while the XS holder uses a metal tooth. As a larger player, I’m concerned about long-term durability. Is the plastic trigger of the Edge holder reliable enough, or does the metal tooth of the XS holder hold up better over time, especially under the added stress from my weight and aggressive skating? Quickness vs Stability: As a bigger player, stability is important, but I also want to maintain a high level of quickness and agility. Does the XS holder's stiffness compromise the responsiveness for quick pivots and tight turns, or does it actually enhance control for those moves? Does the Edge holder give enough stability for physical play while still being responsive in tight spaces, or is it too flexible for more aggressive skating? Steel compatibility: I’m using a steel that is offered in both the XS holder and the Edge holder, but I want to double-check if there’s any noticeable difference in performance between the same steel in the two holders. Is there any difference in how the steel performs in these two holders in terms of edge hold or durability? Personal preference: For those of you who’ve used both, do you find that one holder works better for players of a certain size or style? I’m particularly curious if the Edge holder is favored by players who like a more aggressive, fast-paced style, while the XS holder is better for those who focus more on power and control. If you had to recommend one for a bigger player who likes aggressive cuts and fast starts, which would you choose? If anyone has experience with both holders and can speak to how the aggressive attack angle of the Edge holdercompares with the stiffness and durability of the XS holder—especially for a bigger player like me—I’d love to hear your thoughts!

Is this true?

shouldn't a bauer 9D x:60 fit the same as a current bauer boot 9d?

what happened with your trues? I have heard the same thing. From what I read, trues are not sized correctly at all to be a custom skate

An update to this. So I tried on new skates. My X:60s fit the same as they always have. The carbon boots from bauer seem to fit a half size down than my x:60s. I'm concerned by this because of the holder size change. When I try the same size in both skates, there is a sizing difference. A 9 fit1 and a 9D has a length difference

I think what he meant was that the process of getting custom skates has been the main issue, and he's feeling frustrated. He could've probably expressed it a bit more politely.

I'm a size 9D. The APX and the 1X didn't feel as close to my foot as the x:60. I may need to try again. Also the sizing seemed different as well. I'm a 9D in X:60 but the 9D in the APX felt bigger.

Hey everyone, I’m currently on my last pair of Bauer X:60s. I was able to get 4 pairs of these skates over the years because I loved the fit and feel. I’ve tested out some carbon boot models, like the Bauer APX and the Bauer 1X. However, the fit in both of those didn’t quite match the X:60, even though they’re still from the Vapor line. Does anyone have any recommendations for a skate that provides a similar fit to the X:60 but with a carbon boot? I’m also looking for high-end stiffness. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

The Machs fit 1 didn’t work. I’m a fit 3 but they are too wide. Ever since the different fit systems, skates don’t fit me anymore. A vapor still likes a vapor and a supreme still fits like a supreme or least they used to. The shadow is a gongshow of a skate

I’m looking for a skate recommendation for a narrow foot with a deep in step. I currently can’t find anything on the market.

Are the svh any good. How many issues?

Yeah the belly pad. I removed the drawstring to put laces in

have a pair of nexus pro stock pants that have the drawstring. I want to change to the hockey lace but I can’t figure out how to match up the flap holes and the lace holes. Can anyone help?

@CCMHockey any feedback?

I have a ccm custom plus question. Please enlighten me if possible. Is having the classic tacks shape still an option. I remember a few years back where you could get th classic 552 tack lacing pattern and facing.