mhein22

i dont care if they replace the runner with magically solidified air, you wont skate any better. you could take a bathroom break before the game and lose just as much weight or more for your legs to push around. is that really an advantage over someone who did it in the morning? i mean wtf? i feel like im taking crazy pills in here

ya cars dont improve their mpg's because they reduced the weight by 0.25 pounds. so what are you talking about? this is a ridiculous gimmick. show me an actual study of skaters showing an improved time in any blind testing environment. there isnt one, is there?

the most hilarious part about this is people trying to lighten their skates by this little tiny bit like it makes any difference whatsoever. spend 2 extra minutes a week exercising and youll get more improvement in your legs than carrying around a couple less grams of steel. get freaking real. seriously i would like to know how much lighter on your legs it is if you are sloppy with your water bottle or clean. obviously our gear and jerseys can hold alot of water. if you overshoot your mouth all the time and get your jersey soaked, whats the weight on that? these runners are a gimmick with no performance benefit whatsoever because equipment whores just look at the grams of something and will buy it. theres a market for it. take two hockey players, and if one is better than the other you can change steels between them and the one will still be better. this is ludicrous. not to mention, if you believe that the steel actually weighs you down (eyes rolling out my head as i type that) then you are getting a better workout and more fit by using that steel. you will be factually be a stronger person from it than someone who uses the carbon steel. if it made a difference, which it doesnt. youre legs are handling such HUGE amount of forces i wish there were a physics math guy who could tell you just how many pounds of force your legs are handling and how absolutely irrelevant your steel is compared to that. During a hockey game you are careening towards the boards and the only thing stopping you is your foot turned sideways applying ENORMOUS SHEER FORCES longitudinally to that little piece of steel connecting you to the ground. and youre going to cut it in half and instead of a solid piece of steel youre counting on a mm wide strip of adhesive. its ludicrous. Not to be critical.

jetspeeds Regular Fit had a comparable sidewall height and boot cut to a supreme fit 3 but were narrower in width. so high sidewalls throughout the whole foot, but narrow footbed. that might be your ticket. i wear a 2S Pro as well in 8.5D! i believe they changed the cut for that supreme boot (i emailed them) and they added some wall height back in for this generation. maybe a Supreme 3S Pro Fit 2 Size 8 would be exactly what you need.

i returned my vapor hyperlite size 8 fit 3 today because of the low heights of the sides through the forefoot. my foot is shaped like a wedge so i need a gradual slope down to the toes and the vapor dropped side height too fast from the ankle and instep to the toebox. im in the skate nicely through the ankle, instep and then splooge out the top at the forefoot. the supreme fit maintains that wall height to the toebox. i tried on the CCM FT4 Pro 8 regular and surprisingly the side heights were high throughout. it compared nicely to the wall heights throughout the foot on the Supreme Fit 3. my foot was pretty much within the boot walls throughout the tongue, on the regular fit! but much narrower than a Supreme or Vapor Fit 3. I ordered the FT4 Pro Wide fit and they will come in the mail this week, so we will see. based on what I see so far, looks like the wall height could be a little higher than the supremes. could be my fit!

Agreed, no comprehensive breakdown of the fits on the new lineups yet because i would have read it haha. I want to try the jetspeeds in a wide and the ribcors in regular and wide but they are not stocked at stores yet. I have a pair of uncut/unbaked hyperlites at home right now but they are going back I am pretty sure. The heel depth, ankle volume and toebox width are great but it gets too flat too fast before the toebox and im coming out of the boot through that area. midfoot the sides just arent high enough. the supreme has more depth throughout the instep and midfoot heading for the toebox. but then the toebox is tight. the first pair i got were supreme ultrasonics fit 3 and the 3s pros fit 3. both returned for the toebox. the injected eyelet facing thats segmented for flex does feel like it gives good forward flex on the hyperlites. doesnt seem like it would be as tough as traditional eyelets but I dont know if thats the case and they are sweet. the ideal would be the vapor fit 3 heel, the sidewalls and depth of the supreme fit 3, and just a bit more width on the toebox that the supreme fit 3. would love to know if anyone thinks the jetspeed wide or the ribcor regular or wide would be like that or not even close.

It does have those characteristics, yes. in the fit 3 theres more material all over. more depth, more width, higher sides/more wrap. but its still those same details compared to the same fit in supreme. Supreme has less of a super tight heel, the sides rise faster from the toe to ankle so you get more depth for the mid-foot, but the toebox is tight. tighter than vapors for sure. the vapor asymmetric toe box is spacious compared to the supreme. yes that is the case now. its big. your toes could have their toe friends over for a party and youd still be good.

vapor has a tight heel, flatter across the midfoot into a wide toebox. ive tried on all the skates in the past 6 months.

you are trying to push the top back edge of the puck down with the bottom of your stick blade, so that the puck stands up. picture a dice. you push on one edge and the dice will turn on its "side". so get your blade on the back edge of that puck, then get your hands real low to the ground. and try to tip that puck to stand up by pushing on your stick.