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I think 31/32 are same but with zippered leg on 32. 35 uses a different tailbone pad similar to the 70. I prefer the 32 pad.

Did you ever try a PPTK medium on the ST large? I'm a 36" waist. I have both the 9k medium (tight in the butt initially but has since loosened up) and ST large (thigh opening and waist velcro barely fits) girdles. PP90 large shell was massive on the 9k, PP90 medium feels much more appropriate. JS girdle shell in medium is a tight fit (which I don't mind) on the ST large. PPTK large on the ST large has a looser pant-like feel (doesn't feel massive though) with about 2 inches of overhang (sitting on the bench) in length when setting the thighs to about a -1.5 (thanks to oversized velcro landing pads as I'm 5'5", and these are the shortest thigh length I've had on a pant/girdle for my 36" waist), and, of the 2 sets of the shell's attachment loops on the girdle, I use the lower/belt set (otherwise, the shell is too short when using the upper set). I'm wondering if a PPTK medium would take up some of the slack without feeling restrictive and making the length too short? And for those curious, comparing shell material quality, the PP90 feels excellent, PPTK feels good, and JS feels pretty cheap.

I ordered the large and I like it. The velcro landing pads on both locations to attach the thigh pads are long enough to allow for an even shorter length than the listed -1 (~-1.5 is doable, as I recall). This is the shortest thigh length I've been able to attain from any pant/girdle that can accommodate my 36" waist. Speaking of waist, the belly velcro is just barely able to attach. Motivation to lose weight, I guess. I like my thighs to be wider (I set the 9k to the widest opening) and the ST's, adjusted to the widest opening, feels pretty tight (but can't say it's been noticeable on ice). I picked up a large PPTK for the ST. It fits okay (shell fit looks like pants rather than a girdle with about 2 inches of overhang in length when sitting) and not huge (unlike the PP90 large on the 9k which looked massive, but PP90 medium was a good fit) or too tight (JS girdle shell medium on the ST is a bit on the tighter side, which I don't mind). I'm curious if the PPTK medium would be a tighter fit but still overhang the girdle? As for the ever important (at least to me) tailbone padding, the 9k does have a slight edge in thickness (really only upon close inspection), but I don't think the difference will be hugely noticeable (or, at least, I hope not as the 9k has been a beast in tailbone protection so far but I'd really like it in a lighter weight package, which this most definitely is).

Didn't realize I already asked you in the other thread. Thanks. How did the lengths compare between the 9k and ST? I'm 5'5" and my days of a 30" waist are long gone. 😄 I thought the 9k medium length was okay at the shortest setting.

Did you find the ST tailbone padding to be considerably worse than the 9k or other pro stock options?

Do you think a medium would work for a 36" waist? I'm currently in medium 9k which takes a bit of effort to squeeze into but it gets the job done. 9k is rock solid but way overkill for my needs. I do like the tailbone padding though and wouldn't mind it in a lighter weight package.

I think you'll be fine going small for the waist. Due to the boxy fit, I'm wondering if I'd fit in a small as well. I want to like them because of how similar the tailbone padding is to the 9k (which has saved my tailbone numerous times) but without having to deal with the annoyance of girdle dressing. Man, is it a hefty tank though, especially compared to something like the HPUCLP. It's not like I'm winning any sprint races and it's not terrible once you get the wheels going, but it's extra bulk that I don't think is necessary at all unless you're a wrecking machine out there. I guess it would be good for getting more of a workout though.

Never tried the ST but I use the 9k. Having seemingly permanently injured my tailbone (sit-to-stand hurts like hell still after nearly a year), I found the 9k to offer some of the best tailbone padding, IMO, amongst pro stock offerings (I also like the HP32's which is kind of similar). The ST tailbone pad looks similar to the 9k, at least in videos. What makes them different? I like the 9k but shell attachment seems kind of loose/lazy, it's a little heavy (especially compared to the Jetspeed girdle), and the spine protection is pretty lackluster. The ST girdle seems to better address these issues.

Do you think you'd fit in medium for Tacks? I recently picked up an HP32 in size medium which fit my 36" waist just fine. It's boxy like an HP70 and I'm not a fan of how loose it fits around the hips. It has a drawstring and two cinch straps that I have to tighten more than I'd like to keep it feeling secure. The spine protector is also kind of a joke (feels like just a common tailbone pad) in comparison to the offerings of today even by entry level standards (with their hard thick plastics and such). Not a good option for those likely to get crosschecked in the back often. Protection wise, it's a damn tank otherwise and it feels like the heaviest pro stock pants Ive tried yet (even the HP45X and HPTKXP, but barely). That said, I'm a fan of the roomy thighs, the thick tailbone pad (which is like a non-segmented version of the 9k girdle tailbone pad), and the high grade nylon (?) of the shell.

Interesting. In that case, I think modding the HPTKXP might be the way. How did you manage to do it yourself? Can't speak for the HPTK, but the HPTKXP feels beastly. Wish I could remember the ASV Pro pants I saw in store to compare, but maybe that's saying something. And $100 vs $230 is no contest, IMO. I guess the HP70 would be okay for those that want the most unencumbered feeling around the legs. I never found the HPUCLP anatomical fit (as I recall, essentially the same as HP45, just different foams) to feel restrictive though. It's not as tight fitting as a girdle, but it still has a closer to the body fit, seemingly more consistent coverage than the HP70.

I'm a rec league player but I fall and collide with others more often than I'd like as a beginner of a similar age. I've previously used the Jetspeed girdle which I liked until I got slewfooted and reinjured my tailbone. I was using a size medium for my 35-36" waist. Switched to HPUCLP size large. Ridiculously light. Paired with padded shorts, fell on my tailbone a few times without issue. Given how often that I fall though, I'm not sure how the lightweight foam will hold up. I picked up an HP70 (UPC said HP70C, spine guard label says HP70?) size large in case the HPUCLP didn't work out. Was going to resell it because the boxy loose fit seems to expose a larger gap in inner thigh protection. However, I really like how wide the tailbone padding coverage is. Picked up an HPTKXP size large to compare to the HP70. The padding is next level and I love it. I'm sure I'd get used to the extra weight, which is considerable, as I play. I also like the more tapered fit as opposed to the boxy HP70. What I don't love is the teeny tiny coverage the tailbone padding narrows down to in width as it approaches the tailbone. What a waste of a thick slab of D3O. If they made the tailbone pad wide like the HP70 but with D3O as the foam, they could've just dropped the mic and walked off into the sunset.