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Seems to me like the senators got the worst of this deal.......

I disagree. Ottawa needed to clear some salary to keep Chara and Redden who are UFA next season. As I mentioned in the other post, Heatley adds a lot of grit that they were missing without sacrificing skill. Atlanta does get better in their own end with de Vries and Hossa can match Heatley in pure goal scoring ability. I think each team benefits in different ways.

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As I mentioned in the other post, Heatley adds a lot of grit that they were missing without sacrificing skill. Atlanta does get better in their own end with de Vries and Hossa can match Heatley in pure goal scoring ability. I think each team benefits in different ways.

Do you see alot of Heatley play? I thought he was Gritty from the look of him and a few stereotypical facts (Canadian, toothless, etc..), but from everything I've seen he isn't. He won't back away, but he doesn't seem to get overly scrappy along the lines of Iggy, Vinny, Thornton. I've seen him once at the ACC, maybe 10 regular season games and about 10 international, so it isn't alot to base my opinion on. I'd just like to know if there are instances for why you think he's tough (Because I also did at a point)? I think he'll regain his old forum, and am a little surprised ATL opted to grab someone like DeVries rather than pushing (and maybe adding a pick) for Phillips.

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As I mentioned in the other post, Heatley adds a lot of grit that they were missing without sacrificing skill. Atlanta does get better in their own end with de Vries and Hossa can match Heatley in pure goal scoring ability. I think each team benefits in different ways.

Do you see alot of Heatley play? I thought he was Gritty from the look of him and a few stereotypical facts (Canadian, toothless, etc..), but from everything I've seen he isn't. He won't back away, but he doesn't seem to get overly scrappy along the lines of Iggy, Vinny, Thornton. I've seen him once at the ACC, maybe 10 regular season games and about 10 international, so it isn't alot to base my opinion on. I'd just like to know if there are instances for why you think he's tough (Because I also did at a point)? I think he'll regain his old forum, and am a little surprised ATL opted to grab someone like DeVries rather than pushing (and maybe adding a pick) for Phillips.

I watched as many Atlanta games as I could on center ice. I find that in international play, guys are often asked to play a different role or never get comfortable with their linemates.

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It is ironic that the trade involved two people that ended other players careers.

I hope Heatley does get better and do wonders in Ottawa. Hossa will be a workhorse and a scoring monster. I wonder how well he will do now playing more than 20 mins a game and a chance to play with Kovalchuk. Atlanta's becoming the Colorado of the East.

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It is ironic that the trade involved two people that ended other players careers.

Berard's still around. Damaged and not as good as before, but still around.

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It is ironic that the trade involved two people that ended other players careers.

Berard's still around. Damaged and not as good as before, but still around.

He had 47 points the last season he played which is one off his career best with the Islanders. I'd say his still putting up decent numbers.

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Good numbers, but could you imagine what he'd be had he never gone thru that? That's more of what I'm getting at.

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Good numbers, but could you imagine what he'd be had he never gone thru that? That's more of what I'm getting at.

He was terrible in his own end though. He gave up more than he scored.

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He had actually mae huge strides as a Leaf in his own end. Quinn was playing him in SH and last minute ahead by a goal situations and he was improving by leaps and bounds. The injury put him back to where he was defensively.

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He had actually mae huge strides as a Leaf in his own end. Quinn was playing him in SH and last minute ahead by a goal situations and he was improving by leaps and bounds. The injury put him back to where he was defensively.

The lack of peripheral vision hurts him defensively.

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Besides, he isn't supposed to be Adam Foote. He just needs to be competent defensively to the point where he isn't giving up goals. And his offense (on a good team) would make up for his defensive mistakes. He's still an awesome offensive defenseman

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Good numbers, but could you imagine what he'd be had he never gone thru that?  That's more of what I'm getting at.

He was terrible in his own end though. He gave up more than he scored.

Sounds like Poti. But at least Berard played the body a bit. At 6-3, Poti was too afraid to.

Berard is a good locker-room guy and have once again regained a good deal of his supurb offensive skills. Defensively, I agree...He has his flaws. But he can be top 10 offensively in the league (defense) and with the right partner, his shortcomings can be covered up a great deal.

Ranger fans really seem to hate Poti, he gets more abuse than he deserves.

Berard is -48 for his career and was -24 last year. He had one year where he was double digit +.

Poti is -1 for his career.

Both have played on fairly equally awful teams.

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I'm hearing Hab-Lightning rumours again. This time it's Ryder, Hainsey & a 3rd Rounder for Richards?

Anyone heard anything?

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I'm hearing Hab-Lightning rumours again. This time it's Ryder, Hainsey & a 3rd Rounder for Richards?

Anyone heard anything?

I think that was a rumour that started on a CBC website, except the CBC employees are locked out and they had the wrong "channel" for hte CBC radio link. Most people are dismissing it. Especially since Tampa is getting fleeced.

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the latest rumor ive heard was vancouver sending the sedin's and kesler to hot-lanta for ilya and a future consideration, rumor is kovalchuk is pissed heatley flew the coop and waddel wants kesler

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the latest rumor ive heard was vancouver sending the sedin's and kesler to hot-lanta for ilya and a future consideration, rumor is kovalchuk is pissed heatley flew the coop and waddel wants kesler

That would be a terrible trade. Possibly the best offensive player in the NHL who is young, and who many think hasn't even reached his full potential for an AHL all star and two 30 point a year players?

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The latest is that the Rangers are going to make an offer, which will be close to the max because we can afford it.  If it happens, we miss out on 4 top picks, but for a player like Kovalchuk you get something guarenteed.

I thought that was Larry's stupid ass idea? You were all excited for the youth movement Theo, don't change it now. Kovalchuk will not turn you into a playoff team, not by himself anyways. Keep the picks, be crap and get 4 players that are just as good. Give Balej, Kondratiev and Immonen some time to show their stuff and load up. Kovalchuk is good and young, but players of this calibre is what you'd be giving up (likely)

1 from each group of:

1. Brule, Ryan, Pouliot, Johnson

2. Malkin, Barker, Ladd

3. Jeff Carter, Kostistyn, Suter, Phaneuf, Coburn

4. Lupul, Bouchard, Ballard, Nystrom, Taticek

These are likely the guys you'd be grabbing without him

(2-5/6 for 2 years, 7-11 for the other 2). It's one thing to say a first round pick, its another to see it.

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