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This is way too much. For us canadian, 50us a blade isnt too much but in USA that what you pay for top notch blade.

When you are paying 360$, i would hope to get the blade cheap very cheap.I understand they need to pay the mold but still!!

You know what going to happens??IMO, their program will never work because people will always wait to see if their curve mold has already been paid.but since everybody will do this, no one will use this options.

Also, MIA offer a custom OPS program, 220cnd each stick if i'm not mistaken, minimum 3!

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Its not way too much if you have a curve that you want that you cant get anywhere. You have to pay to play in hockey, its not cheap. If you want custom composites its going to be alot. You could always go custom wood....much cheaper route. Let the market decide if their custom blade program is too much.

Zach

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My point is that mostly all the people here are beer league player, you are not going anywhere so please use one of the curve out there even if you would have prefered a .5 lie lower!

Yea i pay to play hockey since 8 years now.Having a supreme 6000 stuff(which mean one step lower than the high end stuff). I think i paid enought.What bauer paid to make a helmet?? maybe 25?? and we pay what...150$

Sorry i'm getting off-topic but my point is that hockey is already expensive no need to be more expensive than it is already!Except if you are rich!

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i see what your saying but most guy and gals just arnt happy with there curve and say its a pro curve and cant find it anymore why not go out and get the customs if you have the money i say go for it.

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cobrAA, regardless of how much it costs for the manufacture to produce a product such as a helmet, people still need to get paid. Companies need to be able to manufactor products and pay the individuals manufactoring them. Keep in mind, if the helmet costed 150 bucks, there are severall things that money must pay for. Primarily the LHS that you bought it from, the materials required to manufacture the product, and the individuals required to make the helmet. As well, the company must make profit in order to grow and be able to test and develop new things. A company will not exist by obtaining enough income to pay the bills...

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I get the point, i'm not saying i should get free stuff.

But please don't tell me that nike is a poor compagnie and we really need to help them, and buy their stuff. I mean come on, i'm sure the price could be lower and everybody would still be happy!

As for the custom blade, I myselft would really like to get some done but i don't have 500 for blade! I think they should think of a different way to pay for the mold, I have no idea on how to lower the cost. but maybe every customer pay like 30$ +cost of the blade for the mold. rather than waiting by chance that someone richer than you get the same custom blade as you no?

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I get the point, i'm not saying i should get free stuff.

But please don't tell me that nike is a poor compagnie and we really need to help them, and buy their stuff. I mean come on, i'm sure the price could be lower and everybody would still be happy!

As for the custom blade, I myselft would really like to get some done but i don't have 500 for blade! I think they should think of a different way to pay for the mold, I have no idea on how to lower the cost. but maybe every customer pay like 30$ +cost of the blade for the mold. rather than waiting by chance that someone richer than you get the same custom blade as you no?

Or you can go to wood blades and its a helluva lot cheaper.

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But please don't tell me that nike is a poor compagnie and we really need to help them, and buy their stuff. I mean come on, i'm sure the price could be lower and everybody would still be happy!

Nobody says that you should "help" a company like Nike out by buying their stuff. These companies are not charities and it is their responsibility to make as much money as they can for their shareholders. It's up to you to decide whether the price your LHS or dealer charges for a product is worth it or not, after everyone's markup. If the product's worth it after all that, you buy it. If it's not, you don't. In the present case, one of the posters already talked about having $5K to spend, so for someone like him, the prices quoted for MIA customs are not too much. Whether they are too much for the beer leaguer or teenager reading these posts, well that's a matter for the relevant bank balances.

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I get the point, i'm not saying i should get free stuff.

But please don't tell me that nike is a poor compagnie and we really need to help them, and buy their stuff. I mean come on, i'm sure the price could be lower and everybody would still be happy!

As for the custom blade, I myselft would really like to get some done but i don't have 500 for blade! I think they should think of a different way to pay for the mold, I have no idea on how to lower the cost. but maybe every customer pay like 30$ +cost of the blade for the mold. rather than waiting by chance that someone richer than you get the same custom blade as you no?

A 350CDN MIA mold last 200 blades, which is really cheap for the quantity you can get. Heck, most mold cost like 3K. 350$ is nothing if you compare it. After the mold is paid, you buy blades for 60CDN(if you have the mold, and it's 80 if you don't have the mold) which is not expensive considering you have the color of the black you want(to match with your shaft or something), the curve, lie, rocker, lenght of blade everything you want in a blade for 70$. In the stores people often buy 90-100CDN and sometimes they are not happy with the curve, or the lie, or the rocker, with the custom mold, you can get everything you want which is a extreme big + if you hate all those curve/pattern on the market.

And why think of a different way to pay the mold, 350 is nothing compared to some other companys mold.

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And why think of a different way to pay the mold, 350 is nothing compared to some other companys mold.

Yes, its nothing compared to other companies, but $350 is still alot of money for most people. The way i see it, is you have to add the $350 to the $60 of 3 blades. Or $176 for each blade. Thats quite a bit of money

If you dont want to pay, take a blow torch to the blade and curve it yourself. Durability will suck if you overheat it, but hey, you'll have your own curve.

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what about lie, lenght of blade, rocker, lenght of hosel, color(you can paint but it will chip off easily), etc...

Its just like custom skates. There are enough variations that can cater to you're needs. Only a select few truly need something custom, and the rest just do it so they can say the did.

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Well seeing as though I am the only one (as far as i know) to have done a custom mold with MIA, here are my thoughts:

$350 is a lot of money in a sports context. when you consider that other popular sports like baseball, soccer, basketball etc... require very little money for start up, hockey is pretty expensive. I understand people that have spent years buying tons of equipment to keep up playing hockey, and to have a custom curve done for $350 is just another steep price added to the list.

However, I think for Canadian's the pricing makes sense (or at least, that's what i keep telling myself to justify the expenditure!). When a new stick comes out here, it's always $309-$319+tax (like a stealth grip or when the vapor xxx lite came out). In my particular case, i had spent literally thousands on hockey sticks that i wasn't happy with (3 sticks and you've already spent 1G). even buying z-carbon blades are already $100 ($89+tax).

on the downside, if you want to make a mold, you need to have an existing physical pattern that ultimately will be destroyed by the molding process. it's important to mention this because people may have the impression that you can modify things on the fly (oh i want this blade but with a 5 lie and more curve) no you need to have an actual blade that you like (say an old woodie) and they will make an exact copy of it.

i agree that MIA (or the Canadian hockey industry as a whole) need to re-think their selling strategy because with the canadian dollar being only 10cents off the american dollar, the pricing schemes are whack. i was in cali for two weeks buying stuff at hockey monkey and i couldn't believe how much money i was saving ($46 for synthesis blades versus $103CDN!). i had a few people interested in trying the Titan Forsberg mold i made with MIA, but when you consider that americans pay under $45 for top notch comp. blades, it doesn't make sense for them to wanna pay $89+tax to try out a blade.

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How is the feel and weight?

As for me, I think i will stay with my Z-carbon Iggy or maybe try out the new heatley with a lower lie.Oh well,I also really liked my franklin Guerin, maybe it could be a birthday present...

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i agree that MIA (or the Canadian hockey industry as a whole) need to re-think their selling strategy because with the canadian dollar being only 10cents off the american dollar, the pricing schemes are whack. i was in cali for two weeks buying stuff at hockey monkey and i couldn't believe how much money i was saving ($46 for synthesis blades versus $103CDN!).  i had a few people interested in trying the Titan Forsberg mold i made with MIA, but when you consider that americans pay under $45 for top notch comp. blades, it doesn't make sense for them to wanna pay $89+tax to try out a blade.

How do you think the Canadian border retailers feel when their cost on a product, is close to the American dealers selling price?

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Well seeing as though I am the only one (as far as i know) to have done a custom mold with MIA

What are you thoughts on feel, durability, stiffness of the MIA blades? What would you compare them to Inno, Easton??

Also do you know if its posible to check out the MIA's custom patterns to see if anything is close to what I may want? Does MIA do tours or anything?

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in the case of custom wood blades i think quality is also better, or at least seemed that way in my case with tps blades

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Easton doesn't market the stealth for every single person in the world, just like they don't market the octane to every single person in the world. When these companies make a product, it is meant to sell to a certain percentage of hockey buyers. Obviously, when MIA offers a custom blade program, they know only a certain percentage players want that product, and MIA is there for those people. If your not one of those people than stop complaing about how much it is or isnt, cause unless your buying it, than it doesnt affect you. If you dont have the money to get a custom curve from MIA, than you should probably try two things: (1) Get used to the one curve and stick with it and learn how to do everything on that curve, or (2) stop complaining and get a job so you can pay for your custom curve.

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Tyco: That Titan Forsberg curve looks alittle like the TS23 curve (Titan, Koho, CCM have/or still offer(ed) it here in Europe. But only as wood and abs, never composite.

Could you post a pic of your composite Mia curve?

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Does MIA do tours or anything?

No, TOUR is made in the Orient and MIA does not make a stick. Someone makes it for them.

I think he was asking whether or not it was possible to take a TOUR of MIA's facilities.

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A 350CDN MIA mold last 200 blades, which is really cheap for the quantity you can get. Heck, most mold cost like 3K. 350$ is nothing if you compare it. After the mold is paid, you buy blades for 60CDN(if you have the mold, and it's 80 if you don't have the mold) which is not expensive considering you have the color of the black you want(to match with your shaft or something), the curve, lie, rocker, lenght of blade everything you want in a blade for 70$. In the stores people often buy 90-100CDN and sometimes they are not happy with the curve, or the lie, or the rocker, with the custom mold, you can get everything you want which is a extreme big + if you hate all those curve/pattern on the market.

And why think of a different way to pay the mold, 350 is nothing compared to some other companys mold.

The only companies (disclaimer: domestically made product, meaning Mexico or Canada, since there is no longer a OPS made in the USA) left that are using the expensive aluminum molds are Warrior (all retail and pro patterns) and Easton (very few pro patterns).

You make it sound as if MIA pioneered something. Fact is, they didn't. Soft molds have been around for 5 years BEFORE MIA became a company, AND, far before their OEM manufacturer started making OPS. I know of a company whose cost for a soft mold was 1/2 of the MIA cost. Now what? Should that company be held as "heroes?" :blink:

Thanks for the info.

Does that mean I could get a custom curve(mold) from bauer for like 350 + each blade prices?

They might not invented the soft mold, but they are the first company to offer custom pattern to the public, that's what I was trying to say.

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