Sprung Hockey

[Sprungster 5]

Sometimes those floating spacers dont really 'centralise' themselves. Check the wheel hubs for any access material. I had some problems with my wheel hubs on my MB816's ...

The spacers only center good if they fit snug with the bearings, so they don't move all over the place when you put the axles through... making it almost impossible to get them through.

I use a screwdriver shaft to line all the holes up, but even then if they're real floppy, you have to lay the boot on its side to keep gravity out of it.

Many of the original 8mm axles were wedged so there weren't any leading edges to hit the spacer, but some of them bearly supported the bearing on the thread side because the wedge shape went too far.

Ours are made to lock up against the nut so you can't over tighten. HA! You can over tighten anything. If the wheel bearing seats are too wide apart, and the spacers are reg or too short, you can over tighten and compress the bearings just tightening to the reg position. Then the best bearings in the world won't spin right...for long, anyway.

[D-MaN88 0]

Alright, thanks for the tips, but the spacers I have fit a bearing on each side then its wide in the middle to fill in the gap...like its not the same size all the way across, it's raised substantially in the middle of the spacer. These are floating spacers right, they look like the floating spacers on inline warehouse, its just once I put everything in the wheel and position the wheel to the rocker arm the axle won't go through like it won't fit through the standard bearing hole/spacer of the wheel and they are standard hub wheels because everything fits alright, I just dont understand why the axle won't even start to go through!

And P.S.-I'm not really familiar with roller, I've played ice my whole life and just really started getting into roller last summer so I'm sorry if my terminology and or descriptions are bad!

[hockeysc23 0]

Alright, thanks for the tips, but the spacers I have fit a bearing on each side then its wide in the middle to fill in the gap...like its not the same size all the way across, it's raised substantially in the middle of the spacer. These are floating spacers righ

Those are not floating spacers. Floating spacers due not fit into the bearing .. they float in between the two. Floating spacers will not taper or get smaller at the ends and will be the same size.

[hockey_is_hard 0]

This is the type of spacer you should have... When inbetween two bearings, it will complete "the tunnel" so that the axle will be able to fit through perfectly. No part of the spacer, however, will enter into the middle of the bearing like standard spacers do. You might have to wiggle the axle around, as these types of spacers if not aligned properly will creat a ridge in the tunnel, but other than that, it should fit. Can you tell where the axle is getting held up?

[ATLstealth09 0]

Sounds like you have the wrong kind of spacers. Floating spacers should not fit one bearing on each side; they fit in the gap between the two bearings in the wheel. The hole in the middle of a floating spacer is as wide as the bearing hole and width of the axle. Using such a spacer keeps the bearings from popping and reduces the stress on them when you stop so that they don't torque inside the wheel.

Alright, thanks for the tips, but the spacers I have fit a bearing on each side then its wide in the middle to fill in the gap...like its not the same size all the way across, it's raised substantially in the middle of the spacer. These are floating spacers right, they look like the floating spacers on inline warehouse, its just once I put everything in the wheel and position the wheel to the rocker arm the axle won't go through like it won't fit through the standard bearing hole/spacer of the wheel and they are standard hub wheels because everything fits alright, I just dont understand why the axle won't even start to go through!

And P.S.-I'm not really familiar with roller, I've played ice my whole life and just really started getting into roller last summer so I'm sorry if my terminology and or descriptions are bad!

[D-MaN88 0]

Until I can get the correct spacers ordered in for them, would it be alright if I just used them for my one game thursday night without and spacers at all? It is the spacers, well I'll be damned, the guy at the LHS told me they were "floating"...thanks guys, looks like I found out what the problem is!

[hockey_is_hard 0]

They'll still spin, but you should probably leave this one to Sprungster as he as more info on how the sprungs would hold up or if it would void the warranty for improper use or something. When the whole thing is set up correctly, the chassis-bearing-spacer-bearing-chassis connection acts like another cross-brace to help support the frame of the chasis. By taking out the spacer, there is no longer the connection. Any thoughts on this, Sprungster?

Someone I know played with spacers that were too short (shotty machining) for a game so it was pretty much like they weren't even in there. Everything seemed to hold up fine.

[Sprungster 5]

They'll still spin, but you should probably leave this one to Sprungster as he as more info on how the sprungs would hold up or if it would void the warranty for improper use or something. When the whole thing is set up correctly, the chassis-bearing-spacer-bearing-chassis connection acts like another cross-brace to help support the frame of the chasis. By taking out the spacer, there is no longer the connection. Any thoughts on this, Sprungster?

Someone I know played with spacers that were too short (shotty machining) for a game so it was pretty much like they weren't even in there. Everything seemed to hold up fine.

Spacers are not a warranty issue. Because of not having any spacers for a while, I did some first hand testing without them. So did some others who were using the frames with the wheels that came with them...no spacers.

So what I "THINK" is that as long as the bearings seat in the wheel firmly, and the the bearing seats on the wheels aren't too widely spaced, you can get by without them for a "while". I've often gone through Pro players wheels, and found no spacers on one or two wheels. I've also found 8mm floating spacers on .25" axles with the wheel constantly trying to center itself.

The number of spacers out there that are too short and don't support the bearings at all probably make up 20%. Another 20% are too wide and make the wheel snap back and forth as each bearing sets correctly. The rest are just right for a wheel that's just right.

I just got a bunch of spacers for the packages I'm putting together, and have been sanding many of them down so they fit between the bearings properly. For a while a couple of years ago, almost all wheels popped back and forth because of this one.

[D-MaN88 0]

Sprungster, could I order a parts bag from you? Some spacers and spare axles and that kind of stuff?

[simpucker 0]

I've been playing without spacers since November (close-out model). I am pretty lightweight (130 lbs) and I don't brake that hard, but I do have quite an aggressive skating style. I will continue to skate without spacers until I get my next set of Sprungs. I will certainly try out spacers then; but for this model, I will continue to skate without them.

[D-MaN88 0]

These are the previous model I think, I got them off Kovalchuk71 and I think he has the new ones on his Code1s he has for sale. Another quick question since I'm not so great with roller equipment for skates, the wheels aren't spinning that great at all...the bearings are flush with the hub so its not grinding anything against the rocker arm and the axle is fully through. Do spacers help the wheels spin better or is there anything I can do to get my wheels to spin better as I have Swiss Lite bearings so they are good bearings (brand new) and I'm just confused again as to why they aren't spinning that great. I mean they aren't spinning good at all so any help and or advice is appreciated! Thanks in advance!

[Datsyukiandeek 0]

These are the previous model I think, I got them off Kovalchuk71 and I think he has the new ones on his Code1s he has for sale. Another quick question since I'm not so great with roller equipment for skates, the wheels aren't spinning that great at all...the bearings are flush with the hub so its not grinding anything against the rocker arm and the axle is fully through. Do spacers help the wheels spin better or is there anything I can do to get my wheels to spin better as I have Swiss Lite bearings so they are good bearings (brand new) and I'm just confused again as to why they aren't spinning that great. I mean they aren't spinning good at all so any help and or advice is appreciated! Thanks in advance!

You need to leave the axles really loose. The spacers help your bearings, so they don't bend.

Just tighten the nut down enough so it'll stay loose, or else the frame will clamp the wheel.

[D-MaN88 0]

Will they get faster...because no matter how loose I leave it they still don't spin very good. They go around like 5 times and stop.

[Datsyukiandeek 0]

Will they get faster...because no matter how loose I leave it they still don't spin very good. They go around like 5 times and stop.

Clean them lately?

[ATLstealth09 0]

That's where the spacer comes in play... when you tighten the chassis, you're actually locking the center of the bearing onto the spacer all the way through so that the bearings can do their job by rolling. When you don't have a spacer and can't clamp the bearings down, they can't spin properly, or at all, so essentially, you just have bearings turning about the axles with no use of the bearings at all.

[piperclap 0]

Will they get faster...because no matter how loose I leave it they still don't spin very good. They go around like 5 times and stop.

Also, free spin is not the same as when you are skating.

I have a backup set of skates that i used some synthetic grease in as they usually are used on trails and the like and I got sick of cleaning as often-i wanted to see if the grease would last longer (it does). The free spin is bad on them, but when I'm skating they are fine.

[D-MaN88 0]

As I got these from Kovy, somewhere along the line one of the nuts for the end of the axles is missing. Does anyone know what size they are (Sprungster?) and or if I can get a couple replacements just in case at a local hardware store?

[kovalchuk71 212]

Sent you one dman.

[Sprungster 5]

These are size 10 Flexlite 9 ice boots. This is the real crossover size. You either love the short frame and would never think of a large, or you don't feel comfortable with them. Because of the length of the boot there is a lot of action in the suspension.

With all this said there are, and have been since we started, A LOT of totally stoked size 10 Sprungsters out there.

I had to keep reminding myself that this is a full color pic. Only the red springs! :)

[fatwabbit 93]

how do you actually utilise the spring suspension... been trying ot get it right many times, but no avail...

[piperclap 0]

My new Sprungs after applying my old Lacrosse stick dying techniques. A few bugs to work out, but I think they turned out kind of sweet. I found a new tape at the hardware store I wanted to try out for masking, but I wasn't sure how it'd react with the material, so I stuck to electrical tape and ended up with some bleeding at the seams. Won't show from a distance and they'll get dirty anyway. I was going for more yellow (its not as orange as it looks here, but still too orange), but I left the stuff in the dye a little long. Oh well.

All of the orange squares where originally going to look like the smaller picture, but that one took about 15 minutes to mask properly, and I just wasn't willing to do it 15 more times.

[fatwabbit 93]

sweet! looks real sharp!

[fgm23 0]

Piper those Sprungs are really looking awesome :)

[hehatemefrisbee 0]

These are size 10 Flexlite 9 ice boots. This is the real crossover size. You either love the short frame and would never think of a large, or you don't feel comfortable with them. Because of the length of the boot there is a lot of action in the suspension.

With all this said there are, and have been since we started, A LOT of totally stoked size 10 Sprungsters out there.

I had to keep reminding myself that this is a full color pic. Only the red springs! :)

Thats my issue. I put them on a 10.5 Easton, and a 10.5 RBK. It just didnt feel right. It was like I was trying to skate so hard, and I couldnt get anywhere. Im looking forward to you getting the large chassis. I would like to give it a try.

[Hede 2]

You're going to play in the Rams Cup? Or Prague?

Plans have changed so i will be playing in the Rams Summer Cup. So if you want to see the sprung´s in action you have a change :D .