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Actually Bobby, You can do it with any frame as long as your wheels aren't too soft in relation to your size and the surface.

Ah, you like the Dolomite? It just wasn't my pattern.

read it again :) that's pretty much what i said. just thought i'd give keith another plug :) the dolomite is pretty sick, but the curve isnt what i was expecting it to be. i think i'll go back to my Synergy ST Heatly

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Actually Bobby, You can do it with any frame as long as your wheels aren't too soft in relation to your size and the surface.

Ah, you like the Dolomite? It just wasn't my pattern.

read it again :) that's pretty much what i said. just thought i'd give keith another plug :) the dolomite is pretty sick, but the curve isnt what i was expecting it to be. i think i'll go back to my Synergy ST Heatly

It's a good curve ;) I wish it were longer though!

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hockeysc23-yes you got it.centered and then move it back 1/4in,if you leave it centered you might get to much front wheel.check the sprung site ,i think keith put some installation directions on there.

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After 5 games on the sprung A6 frames, I have to say that I still love them. My only complaint is that they seem to get damaged fairly easily by contact. I already have a small chunk out of one of them, I think it was caused by a puck hitting them but I'm not sure.

Keith, Have you tried to do anything to improve them material wise? Maybe you could put a layer of kevlar on them similarly to how a composite stick is wrapped in kevlar.

Jamy

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Hey Guys,

Funny I should post right behind Bane because I bought these, older sprung's off of him. First of all I must say the installation was a little difficult for me but that could be do to my lack of general hockey equipment knowledge.

Bauer Vapor 3's w/Sprungs and RR Hot Shot wheels

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Old "rocker" vs. New

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I skated around in the basement, glad we ripped up the carpet to put down new floors. They feel a little akward at first coming from Tri-Di's on a PF10 but I do love the cornering and turning. I was expecting the springs to give a lot of bounce but they seem great.

I am debating on whether or not to use them tonight in my beer league game.

As far as recommendations for Sprung I believe an installation guide with step by step pictures would be helpful for the people that want to do it themselves but need a little more visual guide.

So far very impressed with Sprung, and thanks to Bane for the chassis sale.

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Are your screws flat heads that went into the sole of your skates? If not I'm sure you can feel them through the footbed? I did T-Nuts and they work fine. It also looks like your missing some mounts?

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Are your screws flat heads that went into the sole of your skates? If not I'm sure you can feel them through the footbed? I did T-Nuts and they work fine. It also looks like your missing some mounts?

I did use flat heads, per my dad's suggestion, and I don't feel them. Cosmetically they don't look as great but I was doing my sprungs on these to see how much I like and can transition before I have a professional install on my PF10's.

I did leave some mounts undone as I could not fit a nut, that can be misquoted easily, on the end of the boot plus it seems very stable just with those mounts. I could not move it if I tried but if it is better to mount them all I will.

I am a newbie when it comes to do it yourself hockey equipment but I wanted to give it a try. Thanks for the suggestions!

Scott

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Are your screws flat heads that went into the sole of your skates? If not I'm sure you can feel them through the footbed? I did T-Nuts and they work fine. It also looks like your missing some mounts?

I did use flat heads, per my dad's suggestion, and I don't feel them. Cosmetically they don't look as great but I was doing my sprungs on these to see how much I like and can transition before I have a professional install on my PF10's.

I did leave some mounts undone as I could not fit a nut, that can be misquoted easily, on the end of the boot plus it seems very stable just with those mounts. I could not move it if I tried but if it is better to mount them all I will.

I am a newbie when it comes to do it yourself hockey equipment but I wanted to give it a try. Thanks for the suggestions!

Scott

It looks like you lined them up perfect lengthwise. If you cut off the extra bolt material, who'd notice? I mounted a pair with 8/32 bolts that had half inch flat heads. Still had to get those nuts on there. You only have to use the front and rear holes in front. You can usually skip the center holes. Look at Grafs. Their mounting system is fine.

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It looks like you lined them up perfect lengthwise. If you cut off the extra bolt material, who'd notice? I mounted a pair with 8/32 bolts that had half inch flat heads. Still had to get those nuts on there. You only have to use the front and rear holes in front. You can usually skip the center holes. Look at Grafs. Their mounting system is fine.

Yeah I have a pair of bolt cutters I was going to use after I heard from others that I didn't screw them up too much. I was going to measure it precisely where everyone in this thread said to mount them. I got half way through it and my dad came down to look at what I was doing ... eyeballed it and got them both perfect.

They feel like a tank with only the first two and back four mounted so I am going to leave it like that for now.

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you might want to think about having those frames mounted the correct way,your spending money on the set up.but to really have peace of mind while you play your game.

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I got my sprung frames today ,-D. Looking forward to use them. I hope they will be mounted in a couple of weeks so they ready fore the new season. I play outdoors most of the time but alot of the games is played indoor in another city because of the weather. Its rains alot here in Denmark.

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you might want to think about having those frames mounted the correct way,your spending money on the set up.but to really have peace of mind while you play your game.

What do you mean the correct way? Was there something I did that was wrong?

I don't need much peace of mind I play in a league for fun, not to mention I have faith in my work until I skate and my chassis falls out from under me :D

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hockeysc23- it looks like you have the frames lined up on the boot perfect.when you mount the frames to the boot ,you might want to think about going with rivets,or 8-32nd/t-nuts and machine screws(round head)by peace of mind i meant,you want to know the frame is going to hold onto the boot while your playing.i hope i didnt come across the wrong way.

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hockeysc23- it looks like you have the frames lined up on the boot perfect.when you mount the frames to the boot ,you might want to think about going with rivets,or 8-32nd/t-nuts and machine screws(round head)by peace of mind i meant,you want to know the frame is going to hold onto the boot while your playing.i hope i didnt come across the wrong way.

It didn't come off the wrong way at all. I appreciate all the help from everyone and I am going to redo some of the front mounts as suggested. I posted my pics to get responses incase I did it wrong and I thank everyone for helping a newbie out.

Scott

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Hey you guys,

There are a few things that should void your warranty. One of them is using multiple wheel sizes that put undue strain on the wheels/rocker arms that are taking up the slack. The suspension is designed for a flat wheel setup only.

Another is Hockey 23's mounting with only two bolts holding the front on. This type of mount puts a tremendous amount of stress on two spots that's meant to be divided among six spots or at least the four front and rear. This mount will eventually break the frame at one of the mount holes up front. Warranties aren't made for covering product abuse. Just plain hockey is enough abuse for any product.

Getting hurt because of equipment failure is not necessary to add to the quotient, either. It also makes the frames look bad when they finally fail from mis- mounting.

Hockey 23, please don't take this personally, cause it isn't an attack on you. You obviously mounted them straight and tight, or they would have come apart already, but they need more than the two screws up front.

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hockeysc23-i do tip my hat to ya for mounting the frames yourself.with my ability and plenty of tools to do the job i should of started mounting all my frames long ago,the t-nut is a good do it your self set up,with some blue lock tight.good for you.good luck.

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hockeysc23-i do tip my hat to ya for mounting the frames yourself.with my ability and plenty of tools to do the job i should of started mounting all my frames long ago,the t-nut is a good do it your self set up,with some blue lock tight.good for you.good luck.

Is this what you mean by tnut? main_tnut.jpg And how do you cut off the remaining bolt inside your boot?

Sorry for asking so many questions I just want to make sure I do it right.

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Is this what you mean by tnut? main_tnut.jpg And how do you cut off the remaining bolt inside your boot?

Sorry for asking so many questions I just want to make sure I do it right.

Yep, those are T-nuts. You want to get 8-32 nuts and round phillips-head screws. You hold the T-nuts with a pair of pliers and bend off the three prongs with wire cutters or needle nosed pliers, so they'll fit snug against the inside of the sole.

If you're mounting modern boots with a thin outsole, you'll probably want 3/8" screws for the front and 1/2" for the back. They won't stick up through to your feet. If you get all one size, you want the longer, and use small washers (also at the hardware store) between the head and the frame to shorten the screw shaft so it doesn't end up too long and in your feet.

If you want it to be right for sure, use the mounting instructions and have the front and rear wheels in place when you mark your spots for drilling. Having the wheels there will eliminate most placement mistakes.

Your first try looks dead on for placement forward and rear. I can't tell if they're lined up left to right.

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yes those are the t-nuts,they would go into the sole of the boot and use a machine thread round head screw,the screw goes through the frame hole and screwed into the t-nut that is in the boot.use a blue lock tight on the screw so they rattle out.dont tighten the screws down all the way at first,wait until all the screws are in,then tighten them one at a time from side to side and back to front so the frames arent leaning to one side.measure twice,make sure all is lined up.so what you have is .the t-nut going in the boot thru the sole of the boot,looking at the bottom of the boot you would see the t-nut threads,the round head screws look like rivits when all is done.dont worry about asking questions,i hope we are being helpful.

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I just used phillips flat head bolts on one pair. Bolt heads are in the boot. Countersunk so that they don't hurt your feets. Bolt goes down through the boot, then the frame and then the nut. Use lock tight and then cut off the excess bolt. Did it myself in less than an hour. Not as "pretty" as rivets, but the whole project cost me less than $5 at Lowe's. My other pair I had done at a LHS. They bitched because their rivet machine couldn't reach a few of the holes. So I decided to do them myself in the future. I don't care about looks, I care about performance.

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What boots did you mount? As long as they aren't digging into your feet, screw mounting is more solid than rivets IMHO. Love to see a picture of your mount job.

I just got these pics of my bud Lance Dyer and his new skates. He's been on almost every version of the frames since I started. The one with the giant lamp without its shade (his dad who is an excellent coach and proud father, as he should be, sent me this one) is from the '06 Pro Series Tier II Division at the TORHS National Championships. The trophy came with the $10,000.00 first place prize money.

His new skates are new-in-the-box, uncirculated vintage Wickeds with his personal version of the new model. The all black and white is ultra sweet.

We had quite a few Sprung guys on National Teams in '06, but next year we'll have several National Teams on them. A lot of these guys have been following this thread.

Lance_and_trophy.jpgLanceW1s.jpg

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holy crap those are sick,nice light boot and mini bearing set up,that has to be the sickest ride i have seen with sprungs so far.black with white rockers is a nice combo.

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