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I was skating on my old model sprungs tonight and noticed that I'm starting to feel a little unstable pushing off. I sat down and looked, and noticed there's quite a bit of play in the front arm assembly-as if the spring has compressed or loosened up a bit-I'm talking about at least a quarter inch of travel with no load on the arms.

Is this something to worry about, and if so, can I order replacements?

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I was skating on my old model sprungs tonight and noticed that I'm starting to feel a little unstable pushing off. I sat down and looked, and noticed there's quite a bit of play in the front arm assembly-as if the spring has compressed or loosened up a bit-I'm talking about at least a quarter inch of travel with no load on the arms.

Is this something to worry about, and if so, can I order replacements?

The pivot holes that were zero tolerance have begun to stretch, and the stop cavity in the frame, where the rocker arms fit up into, has probably opened up some too.

The quick fix is to take the loose pair or rocker arms out, and remove the spring. Cut a strip of computer paper the width of the spring. The strip should start at the bottom edge of the lip that runs the length, and wrap around under the bottom and back up to the bottom of the opposite lip. Put the spring with its paper shim back between the rocker arms and push them together until the vertical ridges break through, then put the pair of rocker arms back into the stop cavity. It should be tighter.

If its not enough you can try two sheets. This works on all Sprungs, and we've been doing it for a long time on our over worked rink samples.

And if you need new arms, or frames, we still have them, but we are beginning to run out. There's about 500 pair of the old model out there.

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Ordered the A8 last Friday and it showed up on Monday morning. The Easton Z-Air boots from ebay showed up yesterday, so last night I went to work. Having read most of the posts in this thread about mounting, it went pretty smoothly. I used 6-32 t-nuts and SS screws/washers. Took about 2 hours, watching DVR of the Bruins/Sabres game from the other day in the background (not worth watching for any other purpose, as a B's fan).

Luckily the LHS had 8mm spacers since those haven't arrived yet (this all has gone too easily - waiting for something to go wrong!).

I've been using LaBeda Asphalt wheels, but I didn't have a complete set of 80s so I mounted up 4 of these with 4 soft take-off 80s that I had lying around (hard-soft-soft-hard, front to back). I've got more Asphalts coming, but I wanted to give them a whirl.

I use RH skates to train for ice and have never played RH formally. I'm 6'4 and about 215#. I was very excited by the possibility of rollers that feel like ice and that would make off-ice training more worthwhile. After putting about 2 hours on these I have to say that so far I'm very happy.

Take into account that these are also brand new boots of a model I've never used before. I like them, a lot, I think. They (Z-Air '99s) are stiff and I like stiff. Not perfect, but for $80...

So far I think the best summation is to say that I think these skates bridge the gap between the feel of ice and traditional rollers by about 50%, which is great and remarkable, IMO. You definitely get some toe kick and more ice feel turning on the outside edges.

I'll post a follow-up after I get 20 or so hours on them with all-same wheels. Plus we'll see how they hold up to a summer's worth of sprint workouts!

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I'm also really keen to hear how they hold up outside under heavy use. I play pretty much exclusively outdoors and would be stoked if they can withstand the abuse of asphalt, grit and all that.

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I'm also really keen to hear how they hold up outside under heavy use. I play pretty much exclusively outdoors and would be stoked if they can withstand the abuse of asphalt, grit and all that.

I play only outdoors on a concrete surface, and they've held up awesome. The only problem is the "breaking in" of the front suspension I wrote about above.

Add some pro-tec-toe on the skates (Easton Z Air Boots), and they've done awesome. The z-Air's sole wraps up around the boot at the big wear point near the inside of the toe, and this helps a lot.

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I'm also really keen to hear how they hold up outside under heavy use. I play pretty much exclusively outdoors and would be stoked if they can withstand the abuse of asphalt, grit and all that.

I put probably 90-100 hours on a pair of Sprungs playing at a beach parking lot (add sand and salt to the normal asphalt grit and grime) and the frames held up great. The only issue I ran into was the axles/nuts binding up from all the crap, so I couldn't get them off to change or rotate my wheels. It would've happened to metal axles on any frame, and was my own fault for not keeping up with my maintenance. The frames themselves are tanks for asphalt. B)

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hmm well i didnt wanan read 120+ pages sorry but could some tell me a website that sells these or what online skate they would be on again really sorry

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hmm well i didnt wanan read 120+ pages sorry but could some tell me a website that sells these or what online skate they would be on again really sorry

I couldn't figure out what to type into Google either.

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So our life is about to get interesting! Rather than selling our frames to a boot company for next to nothing, we're buying Torspo 221's and promoting the package ourselves. This will be whole and half sizes from 7-12, with some EE's in each size. The skates will be $399, ready to roll.

And we're finally going "public", with full page ads in some of the hockey mags and tabs. One of the final determining factors was the last WIHA Tournament I attended, with a table full of Sprung/Torspos. It was in Irvine/SoCal, and I normally get a dead response there. Kids there grew up seeing the extra-old models on hardcore pros and buds, but they also saw them break a lot. And this is a tough sell rink in general, for us.

But last week, the skates were out most of the time with parents and players. Everybody liked the combination and the Torspos really helped get the trials. I sold a bunch of frames and a few pairs of skates. It helps when people see them skating around the rink and in the games. There were more Sprungs there (not counting my samples) than any top line boot from any company. And they were spread around through the teams very evenly.

Outside of Skate San Diego, where about 33% of the players use them, very few of our sales are local. If I can sell these in SoCal, I can sell them anywhere. Tough audience. :)

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hey guys I've got a question! how can I dye my A8 chassis. It has to be considered that we don't have "rit dye" in germany and that I don't know what is compareable!! Thanks

ps: is there anything special to make sure when I mount the chassis on Torspos?

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hey guys I've got a question! how can I dye my A8 chassis. It has to be considered that we don't have "rit dye" in germany and that I don't know what is compareable!! Thanks

ps: is there anything special to make sure when I mount the chassis on Torspos?

I think there must be a comparable dye, and also that Rit is available. If not I can send a box. The only trick with the Torspos is holding the inside liner down so that your drill goes through it in addition to the outsole. The liner material is formidable stuff. Other than that, it's easy with reg inline mounting tools, which are longer and thiner than ice mount tools.

I'm thinking of doing a twofer deal with Torspo 221 ice and Sprung boots as a package. Same boot for ice and roller. I thought of that cause I missed a pair of boots and left the blades on them. Sitting next to their Sprung mates, they look like a smart idea.

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Quick question:

My one90s have holes drilled for the medium A6 and LS2s and I swap between the two fairly regularly. My question is will I have any problem using the same boots with the large A8s? The boots are size 9.25D so I'm not sure if the A8 will be too big or not.

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Quick question:

My one90s have holes drilled for the medium A6 and LS2s and I swap between the two fairly regularly. My question is will I have any problem using the same boots with the large A8s? The boots are size 9.25D so I'm not sure if the A8 will be too big or not.

The A8's fit 9's so they'll fit your 9+ fine. I've mounted a bunch of the A8's on size 9 Torspos, which have a smaller outsole for their size being the same as NBH on the inside.

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Hey guys, any "TUUK rocker chassis" lovers convert to sprungs???

Once I got used to the instability of TUUKs I found I was able to do much tighter turns than oppenents. So sad to see you can hardly find them anywhere.

I hear sprungs are more like traditional inlines with all 4 skates touching the ground, which will probably make me not quite as shifty.

So I'm wondering if are any TUUKers out their who've had good results with sprungs?

Also, I know sprungs have springs in them, that give you a bounce in your step. As a lightweight (only 145 pounds) do you think at my weight I will have enough weight on them to make them flex properly?

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Hey Sprungster:

What is the latest on the Medium A8 - when do you think it will be available? Also, in your opinion, which A8 chassis will be better for a NBH 10 skate - large or medium?

Regards,

KB

On your size 10's the Large will be the best fit.

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Hey Sprungster:

What is the latest on the Medium A8 - when do you think it will be available? Also, in your opinion, which A8 chassis will be better for a NBH 10 skate - large or medium?

Regards,

KB

The drawings are done, but we've been busy getting the current shipment of A6's and A8's here. As soon as we start the molds, it'll be about six weeks to first samples. We might pre-sell them like we did the A8's originally. Same $99 deal with half down on the order.

The 10 or maybe 10.5's will be the top size for the A8M. I'm on 10's with A8L's cause I can't wait.

As to the earlier question RE white frames on the 221's, they'll come with white, and I'll have some pics as soon as they get here. The white looks very good against the black skate bottom.

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The Grafs are for another totally Sprung family. And this is their fifth pair. Dads is on the old model and waiting for the A8M.

The Torspos are the only pair of 100's that we got for our promo deal. They're part of our demo squad now. The pannel material on both skates looks and feels like the same stuff, different color.

Graf7.5A6Bjpg.jpgTorspo100A6.jpg

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