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Michael9

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With all the great players that retired this year : Mario Lemieux, Brett Hull, Mark Messier, Scott Stevens, Al MacInnis, Ron Francis, Dave Andreychuk, Luc Robitaille, Dominik Hasek and Steve Yzerman which four get in the hall of fame in there first year?

personnelly i would think that messier, lemieux, yzerman and one of either hull or hasek will be.

now with the lockout and all i'm not sure who is counted for which year.

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I've lost a lot of respect for the HHOF after this year. How do you keep Bure out and induct Dick Duff?

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Yzerman, Hull, Luc, Francis, Mess and Hasek are all sure things. Stevens, MacInnis, and Andreychuk all have good chances, but I don't think are guaranteed.

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Seeing as how Hasek re-signed in Detroit for the upcoming season...his HOF party has been moved back (at least) one more year.

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Yzerman and Messier are equal.

They're both great players, but I don't think it's even close between the two.

Messier retired second in scoring while Yzerman was sixth, albeit in less seasons. However, Messier had twice as many PIM and was undoubtedly the true enforcer of his teams -- not the goon, but the enforcer. He scored better that a PPG in the playoffs, whereas Yzerman was just below a PPG. Most importantly, however, is the Stanley Cups: 6 to 3.

Again, they both are all-time greats, but I think Messier would win if only one could go in.

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Mess over Yzerman all the way.

Messier took TWO teams to the cup championship and one in New York. He also was the true leader of one of the greatest teams of all time in the Oilers. He was a standout on of team of standouts.

Love Stevie Y but Messier over him any day of the week.

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Mess over Yzerman all the way.

Messier took TWO teams to the cup championship and one in New York. He also was the true leader of one of the greatest teams of all time in the Oilers. He was a standout on of team of standouts.

Love Stevie Y but Messier over him any day of the week.

Yeah. Yzerman was a one-way player for much of his career. Messier was a better player than Gretzky when you take into consideration intangables. He could play in any era and dominate.

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Mess over Yzerman all the way.

Messier took TWO teams to the cup championship and one in New York.  He also was the true leader of one of the greatest teams of all time in the Oilers.  He was a standout on of team of standouts.

Love Stevie Y but Messier over him any day of the week.

Yeah. Yzerman was a one-way player for much of his career. Messier was a better player than Gretzky when you take into consideration intangables. He could play in any era and dominate.

You're dumb.

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Mess over Yzerman all the way.

Messier took TWO teams to the cup championship and one in New York.  He also was the true leader of one of the greatest teams of all time in the Oilers.  He was a standout on of team of standouts.

Love Stevie Y but Messier over him any day of the week.

Yeah. Yzerman was a one-way player for much of his career. Messier was a better player than Gretzky when you take into consideration intangables. He could play in any era and dominate.

You're dumb.

You're mature.

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I doubt that 4 of them will be in on their first ballot. I can't remember any year where all the inductees were in their first year of eligability. Odds are it'll be Messier and Stevie Y and then 2 guys who have been waiting a while.

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