Stopping

[pennyandnickel 0]

Hey guys,

Ive played roller for years but recently started to play ice and love it. For the most part I have the stick work and skating down but I can not stop. Im hesitant to skate fast since the only way to slow down is to crash. I know the best way is to just practice but do you guys have any tips?

[cobrAA 0]

when i started to break, i started to break like roller hockey lol with one foot in 90 with the other. After i started to lean back like a real stop but with only one foot. I could do it with 2 foot lol..

Also, try to use your stick to give you a bit more balance..

Oh and by the way is it one foot or one feet?? lol sorry..

[jjtt99 0]

Welcome to the forum. A couple of things:

1. This topic is best placed in General Hockey Discussions

2. By using the search function you'll see this topic has been covered several times:

http://www.modsquadhockey.com/index.php?showtopic=20535&hl=

http://www.modsquadhockey.com/index.php?sh...&hl=hockey+stop

http://www.modsquadhockey.com/index.php?showtopic=16993&hl=

Good luck.

[Project_2501 0]

Oh and by the way is it one foot or one feet?? lol sorry..

OT: It would be "foot" for singular, while "feet" for plural usage.

"The cripple has one foot, the other was lost in a car accident."

"My feet are sore from running a marathon."

[cobrAA 0]

goood lol thanks.

[flip12 718]

I had the same problem as I switched to skating on ice from playing roller hockey. After a week I could hockey stop confidently if I turned to my left to do it. I couldn't do it if I turned to my right for another five years. It took that long for my right foot to be able to balance most of my body weight--which I thought was weird because I am right handed, and (I assumed), right footed. But nonetheless my left foot was much more coordinated on ice than the right for a long time.

[DamnLocust 0]

Talk to the other people you play with and find yourself a good sharpener. Experiment with different hollows until you're comfortable with one. give feedback to your sharpener and they'll be able to adjust the hollow and the radius, if necessary, to suit your skating style and preferences.

[Timber 0]

I hope that this doesn't sound too remedial but if it works for coachng mites, it should work for coaching anyone):

1. Practice a snow plow stop sliding on the inside edge of both skates (make sure that you have a shallow enough hollow or a dull enough edge to avoid feeling nervous/hesitant about catching an edge hard).

2. Turn the 2 foot snow plow into a 1 foot snow plow by putting all/most of your weight on 1 foot. This will also naturally bring you body to a stop position facing 90 degrees form your skating direction (practice this with both sides). At this point your other foot is just along for the ride.

3. With the proper feel and position for you inside edges for stopping, it's time to get the feel for your outside edges (this is usually a bit tougher to master).

4. Start by bringing you trailing or opposite foot from the 1 foot snowplow stop up to a position parallel to the lead stopping foot. Start with very little weight on this foot until you get the feel of your outside edge sliding and assisting your stop. Gradually increase your weight on that foot until you are comfortable with trusting that edge not to catch and buckle you over.

5. I would carry this outside edge one step parther by practicing a 1 foot outside edge stop at very slow speeds to gain confidence in your ability to use this adge as a "slider" rather than just a "carver". Do this by gliding slowly on one foot and and with a very slight jumping movement (just to get most of the weight off the foot instantaneoulsy while you pivot that foot sideways) begin to slide on an edge. Make sure your knee is bent going into the slide to to give you the most recoverability transitioning from gliding to edge sliding.

6. Once you get to this point, you should be pretty comfortable using the 2 edges in combination to execute a proper hockey stop.

Good luck

[Guy Incognito 0]

Nice post Timber.

[mew1838 0]

I hope that this doesn't sound too remedial but if it works for coachng mites, it should work for coaching anyone):

1. Practice a snow plow stop sliding on the inside edge of both skates (make sure that you have a shallow enough hollow or a dull enough edge to avoid feeling nervous/hesitant about catching an edge hard).

2. Turn the 2 foot snow plow into a 1 foot snow plow by putting all/most of your weight on 1 foot. This will also naturally bring you body to a stop position facing 90 degrees form your skating direction (practice this with both sides). At this point your other food is just along for the ride.

3. With the proper feel and position for you inside edges for stopping, it's time to get the feel for your outside edges (this is usually a bit tougher to master).

4. Start by bringing you trailing or opposite foot from the 1 foot snowplow stop up to a position parallel to the lead stopping foot. Start with very little weight on this foot until you get the feel of your outside edge sliding and assisting your stop. Gradually increase your weight on that foot until you are comfortable with trusting that edge not to catch and buckle you over.

5. I would carry this outside edge one step parther by practicing a 1 foot outside edge stop at very slow speeds to gain confidence in your ability to use this adge as a "slider" rather than just a "carver". Do this by gliding slowly on one foot and and with a very slight jumping movement (just to get most of the weight off the foot instantaneoulsy while you pivot that foot sideways) begin to slide on an edge. Make sure your knee is bent going into the slide to to give you the most recoverability transitioning from gliding to edge sliding.

6. Once you get to this point, you should be pretty comfortable using the 2 edges in combination to execute a proper hockey stop.

Good luck

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[shnuggs 0]

1. Practice a snow plow stop sliding on the inside edge of both skates (make sure that you have a shallow enough hollow or a dull enough edge to avoid feeling nervous/hesitant about catching an edge hard).

Thats exactly it -- i think-- if its the same thing as a ski stop -- point your toes inward on both feet -- sorta like making a upside down V. I have seen this technique work for dozens of people.

[chk hrd 164]

I hope that this doesn't sound too remedial but if it works for coachng mites, it should work for coaching anyone):

1. Practice a snow plow stop sliding on the inside edge of both skates (make sure that you have a shallow enough hollow or a dull enough edge to avoid feeling nervous/hesitant about catching an edge hard).

2. Turn the 2 foot snow plow into a 1 foot snow plow by putting all/most of your weight on 1 foot. This will also naturally bring you body to a stop position facing 90 degrees form your skating direction (practice this with both sides). At this point your other food is just along for the ride.

3. With the proper feel and position for you inside edges for stopping, it's time to get the feel for your outside edges (this is usually a bit tougher to master).

4. Start by bringing you trailing or opposite foot from the 1 foot snowplow stop up to a position parallel to the lead stopping foot. Start with very little weight on this foot until you get the feel of your outside edge sliding and assisting your stop. Gradually increase your weight on that foot until you are comfortable with trusting that edge not to catch and buckle you over.

5. I would carry this outside edge one step parther by practicing a 1 foot outside edge stop at very slow speeds to gain confidence in your ability to use this adge as a "slider" rather than just a "carver". Do this by gliding slowly on one foot and and with a very slight jumping movement (just to get most of the weight off the foot instantaneoulsy while you pivot that foot sideways) begin to slide on an edge. Make sure your knee is bent going into the slide to to give you the most recoverability transitioning from gliding to edge sliding.

6. Once you get to this point, you should be pretty comfortable using the 2 edges in combination to execute a proper hockey stop.

Good luck

One thing to had. Remember heals to turn - toes to stop. That is where your weight needs to be.

[Guy Incognito 0]

One thing to had. Remember heals to turn - toes to stop. That is where your weight needs to be.

No one has ever pointed that out to me. Good advice. Must be why I chatter so much on a stop.

[DamnLocust 0]

One thing to had. Remember heals to turn - toes to stop. That is where your weight needs to be.

No one has ever pointed that out to me. Good advice. Must be why I chatter so much on a stop.

I had problems with chatter, too so I went to a shallower hollow and it fixed that problem.

[Guy Incognito 0]

So digging my heel too much doesn't cause chatter? It's kind of an observation from yesterday- when I get more on my toes it doesn't chatter so much. A shallower hollow might help, too considering I'm 275 lbs.

[DamnLocust 0]

I'm about 250, and I was going around looking for a good sharpener from one place to the next. When I first got my skates sharpened, they used to feel "too sharp," with the chattering issues. I actually preferred skating in them when they became dull, as it allowed for more give for sliding/stopping. When I got to the sharpener I go to now, he told me the hollow I was using was for a 170 lb. skater. since then it's a 1000 times better, and I go to him every time.

[xMenace 0]

So digging my heel too much doesn't cause chatter? It's kind of an observation from yesterday- when I get more on my toes it doesn't chatter so much. A shallower hollow might help, too considering I'm 275 lbs.

Interesting stuff. I'm 240 and I can barely stand with shallow hollows. I need them as deep as they can get them. I always figured it was because I was heavy and a good skater - I cut a lot of ice. Plz lemme know if it works.

[JR Boucicaut 3804]

IF you are 240 lb and need a deep hollow, chances are you're not as good of a skater than you think. Sorry.

[DamnLocust 0]

A deeper hollow cuts into the ice more than a shallow hollow (there's more empty space between your edges). Since the deep hollow "bites" into the ice more, the blades sink further into the ice and don't glide as efficiently as with a shallow hollow.

A deep hollow combined with a heavy skater makes the blade bite into the ice even more, thus slowing the skater even more, as well as making stopping more difficult. If a skater doesn't use his edges properly, a deeper hollow will help with stability, especially in straight line skating. In a sharp turn, it may feel as your feet are controlling you, not the other way around. (at least that's what it felt like for me.)

A shallow hollow, however, will glide more effortlessly, and you will get back more energy from each stride. Stopping and sliding becomes more routine, and effortless, and you will still have plenty of bite in turns and the like. As a heavier skater, you can use a shallower hollow because you will automatically sink into the ice more than other skaters.

I would definitely give a shallower hollow another try. Maybe take it out to open hockey or an open session before using it in a game situation, to get used to it. There WILL be more give in your feet, but you'll notice soon that you're both quicker and more agile, as you will soon learn to control the way that the ice gives way to your blades.

I was thinking the same, JR, but didn't want to say anything. Menace, if you work on your edgework, and get comfortable with your outside edge, you will vastly improve your skating. A good friend of mine who I've played roller with for awhile is a wicked skater on roller, but falls down a lot on ice because he isn't comfortable with his edges just yet.

[Guy Incognito 0]

DL, what hollow do you use? I am currently on a 7/16", but was thinking the same thing that you were... I actually prefer a slightly dulled blade.

[sc37 0]

Interesting reading about this. I'm at like a 9/16" hollow and I weigh 145. The standard 1/2" is still too much for me...I catch too much ice and can't even begin to stop.

[Dante2004 0]

If you know how to stop PROPERLY in roller hockey (2 feet/hockey stop), it is virtually the same in ice. The t-stop that someone described above for roller is for newbies that still think they are at a roller rink with quads on.

Bend your knees, pivot your feet (quickly) 90 degrees/perpendicular to your direction of travel and lean back...

Inside edge of front foot and outside edge of back foot for a complete stop. Or inside edge of back foot for a more upright stop. You can't stop as fast but you have better balance and you are in the "ready" position to change directions again.

[chk hrd 164]

Bend your knees, pivot your feet (quickly) 90 degrees/perpendicular to your direction of travel and lean back...

lean back on your heels when stopping on ice skates will put you in a spin an on your arse.

alot of people like duller blades when the stop because the don't have to be as aggressive doing it, they just kind of pivot and slide. Try being more aggressive and really weighting your edges when you stop. Your skates won't chatter because you have to much pressure on them to let them vibrate or skip. You will also notice the difference by how much more spray you put up.

[jon93 0]

Interesting reading about this. I'm at like a 9/16" hollow and I weigh 145. The standard 1/2" is still too much for me...I catch too much ice and can't even begin to stop.

im 105 and have a 5/8 hallow is that too shallow

[deadmanjolt 1]

I would say that your hollow is PP. For me, I was skating on 7/16 with my Bauer 1000s forever. Ever since I got my L7's profiled (radiused, etc etc), I have gone from 1/2 to 9/16 and I am finally comfortable on the edges. I am 5'9ish and weight around 160 without equipment.

One more helpful tip when stopping. Get your feet farther apart. You will have better balance and be in position to accelerate in the opposite direction.