chippa13 1844 Report post Posted August 21, 2006 Your kid will love when you force your dream on him. I'm guessing he'll be out of the house at 12 because he refuses the supplements you give him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meathead 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2006 Your kid will love when you force your dream on him. I'm guessing he'll be out of the house at 12 because he refuses the supplements you give him. Kind of off topic but has anyone else heard the rumour that Sidney Crosby's parents started cycling him with creatine at like 12? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hamstercaster 2 Report post Posted August 21, 2006 Coaching, playing or refereeing minor hockey has to be one of the toughest non paying job or very low paying job on the planet. I was never lucky enough to play minor league hockey because my mom or dad couldn't afford it. Seeing as they divorced while I was only 4/5 years old, they had better things to do with their dough than to pay for minor hockey and hockey equipment for me. But I've been to games, I've know coaches and referees who just got so sick of the game because of stupid parents. It's even tougher when you play on a team your dad coaches as he will treat you differently. Either he'll give you more ice time and praise you even though you don't deserve it or he will simply be much harder on you and criticize you more.I think the problem is that parents tend to see themselves in their kids and see the lost opportunities they could have had if their parents would have been more fortunate or if they had more talent themselves. So they see their kids playing hockey and are happy to give their kids the opportunity to play competitive hockey and they expect recognition and they expect from working harder than everyone else and being better than anyone else. Parents also tend to see their kids as being better than they actually are hence the fact they will often criticize coaches for not playing their kids enough etc.... Parents are more often than not, not much help to their kids when they show up at the rink as they are often causes for embarassment to their kids etc. I seem to be generalizing here though and it's not the case. You do find sane parents who take the game for what it really is, a game, specially in early stages of organized hockey for the very young. Kids have enough pressure coming at them from everywhere and they definitly don't need more pressure coming from their parents expecting their kids to become NHL'ers and to buy mom and dad a nice retirement home and shit... Sometimes I think it would be much simpler if parents were banned from arena stands altogether. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ktang 34 Report post Posted August 21, 2006 Your kid will love when you force your dream on him. I'm guessing he'll be out of the house at 12 because he refuses the supplements you give him. Kind of off topic but has anyone else heard the rumour that Sidney Crosby's parents started cycling him with creatine at like 12? I don't know about "Sid the Kid", but I have had the parents of some players I've coached (8-12 yrs old) talking to me and amongst themselves about where to get certain "supplements", the dosages, their abilities to make the kids taller and stronger, how it is worth it to take the risk, and why using these "supplements" shouldn't be any of the government's business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meathead 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2006 Coaching, playing or refereeing minor hockey has to be one of the toughest non paying job or very low paying job on the planet. I was never lucky enough to play minor league hockey because my mom or dad couldn't afford it. Seeing as they divorced while I was only 4/5 years old, they had better things to do with their dough than to pay for minor hockey and hockey equipment for me. But I've been to games, I've know coaches and referees who just got so sick of the game because of stupid parents. It's even tougher when you play on a team your dad coaches as he will treat you differently. Either he'll give you more ice time and praise you even though you don't deserve it or he will simply be much harder on you and criticize you more. You can't just list all that's wrong with minor hockey. There are so many good things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meathead 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2006 Your kid will love when you force your dream on him. I'm guessing he'll be out of the house at 12 because he refuses the supplements you give him. Kind of off topic but has anyone else heard the rumour that Sidney Crosby's parents started cycling him with creatine at like 12? I don't know about "Sid the Kid", but I have had the parents of some players I've coached (8-12 yrs old) talking to me and amongst themselves about where to get certain "supplements", the dosages, their abilities to make the kids taller and stronger, how it is worth it to take the risk, and why using these "supplements" shouldn't be any of the government's business. Yeah. It's amazing that since creatine has no known real side effects how much people abuse it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pantherfan 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2006 Your kid will love when you force your dream on him. I'm guessing he'll be out of the house at 12 because he refuses the supplements you give him. Kind of off topic but has anyone else heard the rumour that Sidney Crosby's parents started cycling him with creatine at like 12? I don't know about "Sid the Kid", but I have had the parents of some players I've coached (8-12 yrs old) talking to me and amongst themselves about where to get certain "supplements", the dosages, their abilities to make the kids taller and stronger, how it is worth it to take the risk, and why using these "supplements" shouldn't be any of the government's business. Supplements aren't that bad if we're talking Vitamins, minerals and Iron I have been on them all my life really, I don't have a very varied diet and used to get run down in terms of vitamins and would get ulcers because of it, unless your talking excessive doseages or dirrerent things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ktang 34 Report post Posted August 21, 2006 Your kid will love when you force your dream on him. I'm guessing he'll be out of the house at 12 because he refuses the supplements you give him. Kind of off topic but has anyone else heard the rumour that Sidney Crosby's parents started cycling him with creatine at like 12? I don't know about "Sid the Kid", but I have had the parents of some players I've coached (8-12 yrs old) talking to me and amongst themselves about where to get certain "supplements", the dosages, their abilities to make the kids taller and stronger, how it is worth it to take the risk, and why using these "supplements" shouldn't be any of the government's business. Supplements aren't that bad if we're talking Vitamins, minerals and Iron I have been on them all my life really, I don't have a very varied diet and used to get run down in terms of vitamins and would get ulcers because of it, unless your talking excessive doseages or dirrerent things. No, these are the supplements that were outlawed by the government that they were considering (HGH, steroids, testosterone, andro, bennies, other stuff). I don't have problems with legal supplements, but this other stuff...When the first parent talked to me about it I was shocked. Then the second parent, and so on... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ponty 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2006 The reality is if a kid has enough talent the scouts will find him early on. This is fact.Point is if the kids not trying as hard as the parent sees fit maybe they want to do something else or its not important to them.Its OK to push but there are extremes. At the end of the day its the kids own life which they must manage themselves.I HATE parents who try to live their past glories through kids. Very lame!These types of stories are why I dont or will ever coach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teamhystyk 0 Report post Posted August 23, 2006 My dad never pushed me at all, he said I couldnt even play hockey till I carried my own bag, and I ended up playing AAA and going to College to play. And this is coming from an ex NHL'er Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheesehead 0 Report post Posted August 23, 2006 this not only happens in hockey, but probably a lot more in baseball.if you think about it there are propably more baseball leagues than hockey, and a lot of parents played it when they were kids so they could be living there dream through there kid.i was always the different one in my family. it wasnt a bad thing at all. i was different cuase i loved sports. started watching sportscenter and nascar at age 3. :D i also was the first person to play hockey. my parents dont push me, i want it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
laxhockey1563 0 Report post Posted August 23, 2006 As mentioned before parents try to pretend suddenly that their kid's game is their game. I feel sorry for the kid when I see a parent yelling at him/her. The kid is trying their hardest and they won't get better unless the want to themselves. When a kid gets mad and breaks his stick over the goal, you don't want to physically punish him. If he really likes hockey tell him he can't play until he pays you back. This is coming from a kid. I've been punished for something and my punishment is not being able to play in my next hockey game, not next time you have a hockey game you have to walk home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shagel 0 Report post Posted August 24, 2006 Im not saying yelling is ok but after all if the kid is serious hes gonna have to learn from someone to make it anywhere..otherwise he will go on thinkin hes invinceable and lose the passion. Hockey is not a sport for wussies and daddy's boys. you gotta find the median where its still a love and your reminded of why you love hockey. for me I make mistakes and i get shit from coaches. But parents just support me and tell me what i can do to make it better. They have been there before and have experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muzza_77 0 Report post Posted August 24, 2006 I want my parents to push me more. Each time I get off the rink or field (I also play field hockey as a cross trainer) my parents say well done, good job. They don't care how well I do as long as I am having fun. I am very grateful for that, it has helped me. My parents are really supportive of me when it comes to hockey. Though the down fall in the system is that I want to be pushed. Right now I play state inline hockey (Australia) and I want to when 18 (I am now 15) be playing internationally for Australia for inline hockey. I need someone to push me right more than ever, I run, swim 3 times a week, the whole weight thing, train every night, and at the end of the day my parents still say "Your good enough" and I will reply " There are guys out there who are better than me so I have to improve" My parents reply ok as long as it doesn't intefere with school. I don't have a coach, and I can play better hockey the person who is meant to train me, and I don't have a team. I really need someone right now to push me, it is so easy to just give up when it gets hard. My rink closed in 2004, I kept my dream of International hockey alive by practicing in my bedroom with a $20 stick and hockey ball. Parents pushing kids is a good thing if the kids want it and there isn't any screaming and insults involved. Parents pushing kids when the kids don't want to be pushed is darn right wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites