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[srv2miker 0]

Ive tried tying them loose, tight, everything. The heel padding isnt very compacted yet.

Well that's part of the problem there. You need that heel padding to be nice and compacted for your foot to fit properly in the boot, and it might help explain the pressure on your toes.

Incidently, does anyone know if One90s can be punched out? That might help to toe-box pain.

[beaver5 1]

they can be punched out about 1/3 to 1/2 size. but i feel its VERY crammed once i get skating.

Also to those one90 users, have you any deep marks or cuts on the boots?

it took one 5 minute stint of purely skating to get mine effed up.

also the bottom sole isnt fully attached to the boot itself. at both heels there is overhang where the sole is extended past the boot

[pat19 0]

Have you pulled the footbed out of the skate and stood on it to see exactly where your toes end up at the front? Is there any room on the footbed at the toes or are your toes over the front? Did they try this when you were getting fitted for the skates? We do it every time in our shop. This method tells the story about where your toes are and just how much or how little room is up front.

my size 10 one90s came with a 9.5 footbed

Also to those one90 users, have you any deep marks or cuts on the boots?

it took one 5 minute stint of purely skating to get mine effed up.

mine have a few cuts on each skate and and they're pretty beat up for only using them for about a week. also one of my holders cracked.

[beaver5 1]

isnt it absolutely ludacris how they charge basically 1000 dollars for them when they break so quickly.

They closed at 6 today so i missed out on going in today tomorrow open till 9 so hopefully i can get in a pair of 9k pumps insteaddd

[hockeymom 2]

I don't know Beaver5... you've had my interest and my sympathy while you were sorting through this issue. But you're losing it now with your wild statements... "they break so easily" and scratches magically appearing.

[beaver5 1]

ok yes i agree im getting a little irate right now. But the fact of the matter is that after a total of at the most 15 minutes of painful skating these 1000 dollar skates have:

A.) Gained 3 major marks on the boot. One that is considerably deeper than the others.

B.) Definately not broken in to "fit".

C.) My brother bought a pair of One90's the same time i did and absolutely fell in love with them. There is nothing wrong with his boot physically and dont hurt him anywhere whatsoever.

So maybe its just that out of the box they were not "big" enough for me. Maybe I got a faulty pair or something else.

I didnt mean to generally group all one90's together and say they suck. Im just venting and looking for possible solutions to this problem.

Ill post back tomorrow night as to the situation i am in then. But right now its off to the rink with my 705's

:)

[tjl_48 0]

I've had mine about 3 months skating 3-4 times a week. Mine have held up fine. Still look brand new except a couple of scuffs. When I picked out mine I looked at every pair they had to find the one with the best boot to sole job. There wasn't to many that looked good.

[mm705 0]

i have to agree with the problems with the one90 so far. i purchased mine about a month and a half ago and it took me about 3 weeks to break them in well, which is not the problem as i expected that when i purchased such stiff skates. however, last week, the tendon guard snapped during a game...i dont know how it happened, but i went to hang my skates up and it was just cracked across the top of the back of the boot, hanging on only by the leather (or whatever that material actually is) that covers the tendon guard. needless to say im sorta up shits creek because now that this boot is broken i should really return it, but if i return it, its gonna take another 3 weeks to somewhat break in another pair of one90s. i have to say that if i do return the skates as i should, it is unlikely that i will get 90s again, just because the performance improvement (if there is one) is not worth the hassle of these skates for me. i will be looking at the 9k (possibly in a c width) as well as the synergy 1500, but edging toward the 9k on the fact that my brother had nothing but problems with the screws in the holder system on his synergys coming out during games and the blades breaking constantly. basically, 90s perform very well and i did like them, but i dont think they hold up nearly as well as they should given their price tag.

[mojo122 541]

Just out of curiosity, what size are your Graf's?

[beaver5 1]

i have to agree with the problems with the one90 so far. i purchased mine about a month and a half ago and it took me about 3 weeks to break them in well, which is not the problem as i expected that when i purchased such stiff skates. however, last week, the tendon guard snapped during a game...i dont know how it happened, but i went to hang my skates up and it was just cracked across the top of the back of the boot, hanging on only by the leather (or whatever that material actually is) that covers the tendon guard. needless to say im sorta up shits creek because now that this boot is broken i should really return it, but if i return it, its gonna take another 3 weeks to somewhat break in another pair of one90s. i have to say that if i do return the skates as i should, it is unlikely that i will get 90s again, just because the performance improvement (if there is one) is not worth the hassle of these skates for me. i will be looking at the 9k (possibly in a c width) as well as the synergy 1500, but edging toward the 9k on the fact that my brother had nothing but problems with the screws in the holder system on his synergys coming out during games and the blades breaking constantly. basically, 90s perform very well and i did like them, but i dont think they hold up nearly as well as they should given their price tag.

I absolutely agree with you. When first picking up the one90 they felt indeed relatively "cheap". Like it wouldnt take much to get them thrashed. The 9k's have something to them. they feel solid and like they would last longer too.

my grafs are 11's

[DamnLocust 0]

I don't know what the arch support is like in the ONE90, but I've heard of people skating in skates that have too flat an arch for them, thus pushing their toes forward as the arch is forced down. Superfeet insoles may help in this kind of situation by supporting the arch. --just a thought.

I don't know that the LHS will take the skates back with the marks on them, but good luck to you. If it doesn't work, I'd try superfeet. If they still don't work, you can always try to sell them. Good luck.

[sk8 0]

This is going to sound crazy but try using women's stockings. Extremely thin and may give you some room. Of course you could skate with no socks

[hockeypunk3 0]

This is going to sound crazy but try using women's stockings. Extremely thin and may give you some room. Of course you could skate with no socks

Yeah, I've tried that.

My skates (8090) started to feel a bit to cramped in the toes so I tried thinner socks and then the stocking but I find now that I like the feel of bare foot better than anything else.

Beav, if you can give it a go and see it that may work for you.

[beaver5 1]

Good thinking on the superfeet, but unfortunately i already bought a pair when i purchased the skates.

Ill try thinner socks too, but wish me luck tomorrow.

[DarkStar50 679]

Ok so heres a bit of backround info:

I was sized up as a 11 on my right foot and slightly more than 10 on the left. I wanted to try synergy 1500's but the salesman insisted it wouldnt work and put me in a 10.5 one90. It felt allright in the store, my right foot was kind of cramped but after baking it was pretty good. I went home and walked around all day and kept them on and my toes feel very cramped in the right foot.

A. Why did you buy the skates if your right foot felt cramped when you were trying them on in the shop?

B. Why did you use the skates if after wearing them all day at home, your toes were "very cramped"?

Your problems do suck but maybe this wasn't the skate for your foot in the first place. An important part of buying skates is matching your foot to the right boot shape. All brands fit differently. How badly did you want these skates that your brain stopped listening to your feet when you were trying them on in the shop?

[hockeymom 2]

That's an excellent point DS.... I have been wondering the exact same thing.

I've also been wondering Beaver5 why you seem resistant to any possible solutions to your problems? It confuses me. I understand the ordeal... my kid is very hard to fit with weird feet and I dread the process of every single skate purchase. And it is a period of "fiddling" while they break in until they fit perfectly. Punching a hot spot, skating some more - it is a back and forth process.

Your feet are such different sizes that you are bound to have the problem with every single skate you buy - I guess unless you've been buying them too big all along.

* edited for typos

[beaver5 1]

darkstar i find your response quite insulting actually.

A.) They werent as cramped as they are now. You can never tell in a store how they will feel skating. They were still relatively warm and it felt different then.

B.) I went back to the store after wearing them at home and the same saleman said. "you cant tell how they feel just by walking and standing in them, go to a public skate or a light skate at practice and see how they feel."

who said i ever went in set on the one90's. I honestly didnt want that skate to begin with. I went in there thinking ok im going to get synergy 1500's, those are the skates i really really wanted.

I tried a pair on (after the salesman tried to persuade me not to bother) and knew right away that they were not or me. my heel would lift and move around and the boot felt sloppy on my foot.

The salesman told me that they wouldnt fit the "shape" of my foot in the first place and suggested i try a one90 or graf 735.

so i tried the 735 and they felt better than the synergy, just not stiff enough in the forefoot.

The THIRD skate i tried was eventually the one90. It was by far the better "feeling" on my foot at the time. Its stiffer than anything id seen before and thats what i like. they felt decent just walking around, and plus they were still warm after getting them baked.

Its not like im a little child getting spoiled by his damn parents. I work for whatever i wish to buy. Sticks, gloves, helmet, you name it. My parents will put in some money based on the cost of a mid range piece of equipment that they feel would do the trick, and anything above that is covered by me.

Hockeymom ive never resisted a solution anyone offered on here. Ive done the superfeet, tied them different ways, etc... Im just frustrated as you can imagine. this is alot of money and I know you purchased a pair for your daughter so i hope you can feel my pain. :)

[DarkStar50 679]

Pardon me for asking a few questions. You must be pissed off at everything given your problem. I was only trying to get you to think about what happened. Maybe the sales guy screwed up by not getting you to stop and listen to your feet. I always slow down the sale when the customer is not taking enough time to make a good, well thought-out decision. I am not saying you did or didn't make one. I wasn't there, OK? I never did get an answer to whether the salesman or you pulled out the footbed to have you stand on it and see how much or how little room your toes had at the end. Try it now and tell us. Have you tried having the skates re-baked? Shaping them again may help at the hot spots. As I was at the beginning, so am I at the end, only trying to help.

[Tyler B 0]

ok yes i agree im getting a little irate right now. But the fact of the matter is that after a total of at the most 15 minutes of painful skating these 1000 dollar skates have:

A.) Gained 3 major marks on the boot. One that is considerably deeper than the others.

B.) Definately not broken in to "fit".

C.) My brother bought a pair of One90's the same time i did and absolutely fell in love with them. There is nothing wrong with his boot physically and dont hurt him anywhere whatsoever.

So maybe its just that out of the box they were not "big" enough for me. Maybe I got a faulty pair or something else.

I didnt mean to generally group all one90's together and say they suck. Im just venting and looking for possible solutions to this problem.

Ill post back tomorrow night as to the situation i am in then. But right now its off to the rink with my 705's

:)

last time i checked it took longer than 15 mins for a skate to get broken in. maby you just havent given them a long enough time to break in before you started to complain about them...?

[Edge 0]

When I first got my one90s, it took well over an hour of skating and 2 heatings for them to feel perfect. First skate they felt terrible. After that though, I decided to not tie them quite as tight and skate in them a bit more and they couldn't feel better now.

As for them holding up, aside from my tendon guard cracking(which was resolved by the way), the actual boot has held up fine on them. I skate just about every day in them, and only small scratches and scuffs have appeared and they are only cosmetic.

As for the fit....The difference I'm seeing in your posts is that you are feeling cramped lengthwise in the toe box, correct? If that is the case, I doubt skating in them more will fix that. Personally, I don't think there should be a difference in how a skate fits lengthwise walking in them to skating in them.

[hockeymom 2]

Beaver5 I certainly CAN feel your pain. My kid, like you, is a prime candidate for custom skates... it is a lot of work to get one "off the wall" to work. They have always needed to be punched and futzed with... the curse of different sized, weird feet. I just dread buying new skates!!

Why am I going through this with you? The reality of your feet is that you are going to either buy skates that are too big in order to feel comfortable right away ... or you are going to buy skates with one way too small and have to work with it to get it right. Regardless of the brand of skate - you are going to have an ordeal to get the skate right.

My kid stands/walks in the store for at least 1/2 an hour (or longer!) in each skate to find the pressure points... and then we discuss with the fitter if it is the sort of problem that can be corrected. We pay attention to the time of day too - because your feet swell through the day. So sometimes it is a couple of trips at different times to work through the short list of skates. The reality of skate buying for my kid is not to find a pair of skates that feel comfy in the store - it is to find one that is hurting in places that can be fixed.

Breaking in is another issue you seem to want to rush. Some people, like your brother, have skated off in them and been delighted right from the get-go... not the case with my kid. In total she probably had at least 15 hours of skating before all of the fitting issues were resolved and the skates were broken in and felt really, really good... and the LHS (in the person of OTG) did a lot of work on these skates to make them perfect for her. She'd skate, identify problems and go back to OTG, and then go skate again. At the end of the day... these now fit her better than any other skate ever has. But if you go back to the first time she tried them on, her feet had red marks and pain in the store.

You haven't replied to some of the suggestions here, which is why I am wondering if you are resistant to it and are just so fed up you are looking for a reason to toss the skates.

So, HAVE you stood on the footbeds to see where your toes line up? That's a good suggestion. Have you identified where in the toe box your toes are cramping? Is it in an area that punching would alleviate? I've always been careful with the toe box fit - you can make them a bit longer but not wider as I understand it... so where and how it is cramping is pretty key. Was there redness on your foot after skating and can you identify where that was?

Maybe these aren't the skates for you. Maybe they will be, with some work. It does sound, from some of the posts you've made, that your LHS is knowledgeable and willing to work with you.

[beaver5 1]

ok yes darkstar i apologise, when i take the footbeds out and the left has a bit more than half a millimeter of bare footbed between my toes and the edn while my right has no room whatsoever.

yes hockeymom i agree i probbaly just need to tinker and heat, punch, bake, stretch these bad boys until i come up with my own unique special fit.

There are red marks on the top of my foot right by the toes. as well as the pinky toes there is redness. only in the right skate

sorry to come off harsh before

[mm705 0]

since you have them, you can do one of two things as far as i can see, and i can speak from experience (at least somewhat) because i have gone through the 90 process. when i bought them they felt very nice in the store, and the same with wearing them at home. i have my superfeet in them which have worked well for me as long as i have had them, so i thought the skates would be no big deal as far as a break-in, especially since my xxx (granted i did get them used) took less than a skate to break in. boy was i wrong. it took at least 10 skates (at least an hr and a half each too) for me to break them in to the point that i did not dread putting them on. about 4 skates into the process, i quit the 90s and went back to my xxx, but then went back to the 90s 2 skates later, and tied them much tighter. hurt alot worse for a while, but started to get better over the next few skates. the point of this is that the 90s (as you know) are very difficult to break in and while you may hate them now you may really like them in the future...may. thats not to say i fell in love with my 90s by any stretch. i had to put alot of effort into them as far as getting them profiled etc. so that they worked for me, so personally, i would shy away from another pair. add to that the fact that they gave me a nice little cut during the break in period on my ankle bone that hasnt really healed yet, and it boils down to my decision that now that my 90s broke, i will only be getting another pair if it is the only thing the store will give me for free...not that i expect that, but i cant be another 450 in the hole from another pair of skates. on another note, and i know this question's only real answer is that the 2 boots fit differently and the only way to know would be to try them on, can anybody describe to me the fit difference between a 9k and the 90s, and if it would help to get 9ks (if they actually feel as good as i remember them feeling) in a c width rather than a d to be more comparable to the 90's or xxx fit? sorry for going on and on but youre not the only one with a problem with these skates and i felt my story might help you a little...

[beaver5 1]

thanks mm i realize wearing them is pretty well something that must be done in order to get the skate to feel like what youve had on before.

[beaver5 1]

went in today and the same helpful salesman punched out the cap a bit. its now kind of mutulated and bubbly, still no luck.

i left them overnight and hes stretching them and we'll see what happens tomorrow.

the cuts and scrapes arent really a problem to him, if need be i can switch skates for something else. but hes going to make these work. thats basically what he said to me.

:)